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17-3 before Bracketbuster Game Announcement!

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WeberSki

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what does this mean. PrimeTime ESPN game, & Wichita St., St. Mary's, or Nevada????? These matchups would all be huge at the Dee.

I was nervous for both of these games. This week was huge, especially without our 2 starters.

We will destroy MSU, beat UM, & NAU @ home. Hopefully all starters a green light before road games at ISU & Sac St, and then Bracketbuster Announcement is Jan 29.

It's okay to get a little ahead of ourselves....
 
WeberSki said:
what does this mean. Prime ESPN game, & Wichita St., St. Mary's, or Nevada would all be Great at the Dee.

I was nerveous for both of these games. This week was huge, especially without our 2 starters.

We will destroy MSU, beat UM, & NAU @ home. Hopefully all starters a green light before road games at ISU & Sac St, and then Bracketbuster Announcement is Jan 29.
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with a 4-0 start our schedule looks VERY nice til the bracketbusters for sure!!!

keep an eye on this forum of VCU they are keeping the RPI's updated for the upcoming bracketbusters. it may give us an idea of who we may play but i think we also need to factor in regionalization which im assuming is a factor in lining up the games other than RPI.

http://www.vcuramnation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7889" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

im hoping for nevada. they just won in logan tonight.
 
Wichita State played in Logan for bracketbusters 2 yrs ago & USU returned it this season. I think regionalization is less of a factor in the top tier games...
 
ya you are right. other than the big ones slash espn games most hte others are regional. i believe that usu/wichita game was on espn too.

would be tight for us to get an espn game
 
catcat said:
WeberSki said:
what does this mean. Prime ESPN game, & Wichita St., St. Mary's, or Nevada would all be Great at the Dee.

I was nerveous for both of these games. This week was huge, especially without our 2 starters.

We will destroy MSU, beat UM, & NAU @ home. Hopefully all starters a green light before road games at ISU & Sac St, and then Bracketbuster Announcement is Jan 29.
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with a 4-0 start our schedule looks VERY nice til the bracketbusters for sure!!!

keep an eye on this forum of VCU they are keeping the RPI's updated for the upcoming bracketbusters. it may give us an idea of who we may play but i think we also need to factor in regionalization which im assuming is a factor in lining up the games other than RPI.

http://www.vcuramnation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7889" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

im hoping for nevada. they just won in logan tonight.
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Now that is a great link, Thanks
 
catcat said:
with a 4-0 start our schedule looks VERY nice til the bracketbusters for sure!!!
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Really? Well if Montana plays D the way they did last night (44 points the entire game) and we play D the way we did in the first half last night (51 points in the first half), Montana will give us all we want and (hopefully not) more!
 
CatBasketballFan said:
catcat (my favorite forum member) said:
with a 4-0 start our schedule looks VERY nice til the bracketbusters for sure!!!
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Really? Well if Montana plays D the way they did last night (44 points the entire game) and we play D the way we did in the first half last night (51 points in the first half), Montana will give us all we want and (hopefully not) more!
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i have the solution...

1. the griz are 5-7 vs rahe
2. griz are 14-40 in ogden
3. biggest of all - they travel to nau on thursday. there is nothing worse than traveling to nau in the big sky...at least until next yr. assuming they have no airport issues it is 3 hrs there and back to the phx airport via bus to flagstaff. maybe a wsu student can go pull the fire alarm at the team hotel at 1am the night before the game like they did to our team when we played them in missoula in the 2008 ncaa quarterfinal football playoffs. :thumbdown:
4. we are 8-0 at home. we beat usu and utah on our home floor, you dont do that at weber and then lose a conf game in the dee!! :bad:



as for starting out 17-3...

we have only done that twice in history, 1969 and 1980 started out 18-2. 1969 went 27-3 and 15-0 in big sky. 1980 finished 13-1 in big sky and 26-3 overall. both finished in the top 25. 2003 started out 15-5 and went 16-0 in big sky and finished 30th in the AP.

that is a tall order to replicate and would take more than just the most talented big sky team to complish an undefeated big sky season. i think someone already mentioned about how big sky is a marathon. a lot of things need to go right....such as team health, travel issues. one big thing we do have is an amazing conf schedule this yr. i believe we can do it and im very excited for bull and mook to come back.
 
catcat said:
maybe a wsu student can go pull the fire alarm at the team hotel at 1am the night before the game like they did to our team when we played them in missoula in the 2008 ncaa quarterfinal football playoffs. :thumbdown:
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Hilarious! Yeah, only an 18-19 hour drive to pull a fire alarm. :o
 
catcat said:
ya you are right. other than the big ones slash espn games most hte others are regional. i believe that usu/wichita game was on espn too.

would be tight for us to get an espn game
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For Weber to get their game televised, they will need to have a far better RPI. I don't know why our RPI is so bad, our 3 losses have all been on the road to top 50 teams (is BYU still top 50?). Two big wins this week, should help our RPI out immensely, but one never knows. :?
 
talhadfoursteals said:
catcat (my favorite forum member) said:
ya you are right. other than the big ones slash espn games most hte others are regional. i believe that usu/wichita game was on espn too.

would be tight for us to get an espn game
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For Weber to get their game televised, they will need to have a far better RPI. I don't know why our RPI is so bad, our 3 losses have all been on the road to top 50 teams (is BYU-UT still top 50?). Two big wins this week, should help our RPI out immensely, but one never knows. :?
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We are now hovering around the 10th highest Rpi bracketbuster game. Espn is televising 11. We still have 5 more wins to grab before the announcement. Our Rpi jumped 15 this weekend. We ARE going to have an Espn game on Feb 18th... :rockon: Hopefully we jump a bunch more the rest of this month... :rockon:
 
WeberSki said:
talhadfoursteals said:
catcat (my favorite forum member) (my favorite forum member) said:
ya you are right. other than the big ones slash espn games most hte others are regional. i believe that usu/wichita game was on espn too.

would be tight for us to get an espn game
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For Weber to get their game televised, they will need to have a far better RPI. I don't know why our RPI is so bad, our 3 losses have all been on the road to top 50 teams (is BYU-UT still top 50?). Two big wins this week, should help our RPI out immensely, but one never knows. :?
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We are now hovering around the 10th highest Rpi bracketbuster game. Espn is televising 11. We still have 5 more wins to grab before the announcement. Our Rpi jumped 15 this weekend. We ARE going to have an Espn game on Feb 18th... :rockon: Hopefully we jump a bunch more the rest of this month... :rockon:
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i agree...if we can play well and win all our home games we have a great shot at being 14-0, 23-3. we dont go to missoula til after. if we do that, we will get an espn game. plus we have a real college arena and one would assume we cuold get a good crowd of 8-9k or more since it would be either fri or sat night.
 
top road teams in the busters right now:

1. northern iowa
2. st mary's
3. wichita state
4. long beach
5. nevada

we have the 8th highest rpi of the home teams so far.

any would be a good game to watch. i guess i dont want saint mary's as we have already played them and i dont see that happening again as well i dont want our team to have to play in a high school gym again next year.

last time we played long beach no one came so i dont want them.

i think nevada would be our best opponent to get. also that would be a great ooc game next yr that has a good environment.
 
As of today on the link http://www.vcuramnation.com/forums/view" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... f=3&t=7889 we are projected to play Drake. Correct me if i am wrong but didn't we play them up in Alaska last year?
 
flylikeasparrow said:
As of today on the link http://www.vcuramnation.com/forums/view" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... f=3&t=7889 we are projected to play Drake. Correct me if i am wrong but didn't we play them up in Alaska last year?
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yes we did. the site is just lining up the highest rpi of the home and away teams in order. they arent trying to predict the field.
 
catcat said:
top road teams in the busters right now:

1. northern iowa
2. st mary's
3. wichita state
4. long beach
5. nevada

we have the 8th highest rpi of the home teams so far.

any would be a good game to watch. i guess i dont want saint mary's as we have already played them and i dont see that happening again as well i dont want our team to have to play in a high school gym again next year.

last time we played long beach no one came so i dont want them.

i think nevada would be our best opponent to get. also that would be a great ooc game next yr that has a good environment.
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I'm torn, St. Mary's at the Dee would be fantastic, and a win could really propel our NCAA seeding. St. Mary's is a projected 5 seed right now.
 
Espn picks the matchups for the 13 Espn TV games, based off of potential ratings, intrigue, appeal to a National audience. 7 will be on ESPN U & ESPN3, and 6 will be on ESPN & ESPN 2. As long as we win our next 3 games we may be in the top 5 Rpi Home team anyway, plus we have a great venue, crowd, & the top scorer in the nation that a lot of people would like to see.

I could easily see us in one of the top 3 primetime games on ESPN the Mothership against St. Mary's, Wichita St., or Nevada. Lillard & Nevada's Deonte Burton would be quite the matchup. A 2 loss St. Mary's team vs. a 3 loss Weber St. has a nice ring to it.
 
I was reading on another thread about the impact that other Big Sky teams can have on Weber. It was kinda crazy idea, but if the conference's overall RPI can improve, wouldn't that directly affect Weber's overall RPI? I mean, one thing thats really hurting Weber is that our schedule is piss poor, due to the conference's low RPI. Now, whether or not the teams are as bad as their RPI's reflect them to be is beside the point, only way to prove they are better is through victory's in the OOC schedule, the point is that the Bracket games presents a great opportunity for the conference to increase its RPI. As Weber State fans, we really need our conference mates to win their bracket games. This could translate into getting the conference victor a better overall seed in the NCAA tounry.

As for Drake, I'm sure they would love to play us again. Our W over them was somewhat fortuitious.
 
OK - I have thought a little about this and would like others POV.
What if Weber had played St. Mary's, YBU, and Cal at full strength and at a neutral court with neutral refs? Would they have won?

Against, St. Mary's, everyone was healthy and still lost on the road. Weber had 27 team fouls compared to St. Mary's 17. Hard to beat a team on the road and with a 10 foul differential. Granted, St. Mary's is a great team and I think even on a neutral court with neutral refs, they lose this game, but it would have been much closer.

Against YBU, they were out two starters and D-Lill had the flu. YBU had experienced seniors inside playing against sophomores and freshman. Fouls were 16 a piece, but the refs did not have to "help" YBU as they had a huge lead. I think if Weber was totally healthy and they played on a neutral court, Weber wins 6 out of 10 times. Slight edge to Weber only because of D-Lill.

Against Cal, you had the best defender in the country and Weber was out two starters. Fouls were 21 for Weber and only 14 for Cal, so the refs could have been a factor. But, even if this game were played on a neutral floor with neutral refs, I don't think Weber pulls this game out. Cal's depth and size would be hard to match. Overall, better athletes in the PAC 12 (with a few exceptions).

So, in the end, I think Weber could be 18-2 now had everyone been healthy. But, they could also still be 17-3 because as much as I hate to admit it, YBU is a good team.

In any event, it is great to be undefeated in Big Sky play and Oquihrr Bucket champions!
 
Waldo said:
OK - I have thought a little about this and would like others POV.
What if Weber had played St. Mary's, YBU, and Cal at full strength and at a neutral court with neutral refs? Would they have won?

Against, St. Mary's, everyone was healthy and still lost on the road. Weber had 27 team fouls compared to St. Mary's 17. Hard to beat a team on the road and with a 10 foul differential. Granted, St. Mary's is a great team and I think even on a neutral court with neutral refs, they lose this game, but it would have been much closer.

Against YBU, they were out two starters and D-Lill had the flu. YBU had experienced seniors inside playing against sophomores and freshman. Fouls were 16 a piece, but the refs did not have to "help" YBU as they had a huge lead. I think if Weber was totally healthy and they played on a neutral court, Weber wins 6 out of 10 times. Slight edge to Weber only because of D-Lill.

Against Cal, you had the best defender in the country and Weber was out two starters. Fouls were 21 for Weber and only 14 for Cal, so the refs could have been a factor. But, even if this game were played on a neutral floor with neutral refs, I don't think Weber pulls this game out. Cal's depth and size would be hard to match. Overall, better athletes in the PAC 12 (with a few exceptions).

So, in the end, I think Weber could be 18-2 now had everyone been healthy. But, they could also still be 17-3 because as much as I hate to admit it, YBU is a good team.

In any event, it is great to be undefeated in Big Sky play and Oquihrr Bucket champions!
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You have to take into account that everything Bwhy?U put up went in, I have never seen a team shoot so well, it didnt matter how good we played defense, the Cougars shot 63.6% in the second half, you are not gonna beat many teams when a team shoots that good.

However on a neutral court I think we 50/50 split with BYU, but still lose to Cal and St.Mary's, but the SMC and Cal games are much closer, I remember when Weber cut Cal's lead to 8, then it was a whistle fest, I think Cal went to the line like 6 straight possesions after that, and it didnt let up after that.
 
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