2015 Big Sky Tourney Thread

[wsucatfan]

Game 1 in the books with EWU beating Idaho 91-83. Tyler Harvey goes off: 13-20 (2's) 8-12 (3's) 8-8 (FT's) for 42 points

 

[Webergrad02]

I thought I would make a thread for the conference tournament in general and leave the Weber game thread for the game.

The Portland State game is the opposite of what the EWU vs. Idaho game was. Neither Sac nor PSU can buy a bucket.

 

[n.ogdencat]

I think the Sky can expect a lot of JUCO transfers this off season.

Sac is losing 4 seniors and, yes, I'll say it, 75% of their offense.
PSU is losing 4 seniors and around 70% of their offense
Idaho is losing 3 senior starters and about 60% of their offense.

I keep thinking to myself, "how did we lose at home to either of these teams?"

I just realized that if Weber were to pull of an upset that the Cats would play the winner of the NAU vs. UNCO game and not the highest remaing seed. Isn't that a major change from past years? Didn't they use to assign the lowest against highest remaining seed?

 

[AlumniWSU]

The influencing major change this year was 8 teams in with no bye for the 1 seed, therefore establishing a bracketing schedule that yes, results in a switch from the last few years. :twocents:

So far, it's #2 EWU vs. #3 Sac St in one semifinal game and the other ??? :yikes:

 

[sacstateman]

I think the Sky can expect a lot of JUCO transfers this off season.

Sac is losing 4 seniors and, yes, I'll say it, 75% of their offense.
PSU is losing 4 seniors and around 70% of their offense
Idaho is losing 3 senior starters and about 60% of their offense.

I keep thinking to myself, "how did we lose at home to either of these teams?"

I just realized that if Weber were to pull of an upset that the Cats would play the winner of the NAU vs. UNCO game and not the highest remaing seed. Isn't that a major change from past years? Didn't they use to assign the lowest against highest remaining seed?

Tal....we lose a bunch of offense but not 75%....62% is about the correct number....like I said, A BUNCH OF POINTS....PSU actually loses 72% and UI loses only 50%......

 

[n.ogdencat]

I think the Sky can expect a lot of JUCO transfers this off season.

Sac is losing 4 seniors and, yes, I'll say it, 75% of their offense.
PSU is losing 4 seniors and around 70% of their offense
Idaho is losing 3 senior starters and about 60% of their offense.

I keep thinking to myself, "how did we lose at home to either of these teams?"

I just realized that if Weber were to pull of an upset that the Cats would play the winner of the NAU vs. UNCO game and not the highest remaing seed. Isn't that a major change from past years? Didn't they use to assign the lowest against highest remaining seed?

Tal....we lose a bunch of offense but not 75%....62% is about the correct number....like I said, A BUNCH OF POINTS....PSU actually loses 72% and UI loses only 50%......

Let's say about 70% for Sac. PSU could be that high and Idaho is higher than 50. But all in all we are agreed.

 

[sacstateman]

Tal....I looked up the stats and did the math.....counted ALL the seniors on each roster.....

 

[SWWeatherCat]

Game 1 in the books with EWU beating Idaho 91-83. Tyler Harvey goes off: 13-20 (2's) 8-12 (3's) 8-8 (FT's) for 42 points

Don't those numbers add up to 58?

 

[n.ogdencat]

I think the Sky can expect a lot of JUCO transfers this off season.

Sac is losing 4 seniors and, yes, I'll say it, 75% of their offense.
PSU is losing 4 seniors and around 70% of their offense
Idaho is losing 3 senior starters and about 60% of their offense.

I keep thinking to myself, "how did we lose at home to either of these teams?"

I just realized that if Weber were to pull of an upset that the Cats would play the winner of the NAU vs. UNCO game and not the highest remaing seed. Isn't that a major change from past years? Didn't they use to assign the lowest against highest remaining seed?

Tal....we lose a bunch of offense but not 75%....62% is about the correct number....like I said, A BUNCH OF POINTS....PSU actually loses 72% and UI loses only 50%......

For the entire season? :roll:

 

[sacstateman]

Of course for the entire season......you look at the stats and do the math....I'm just plugging in the facts and calculating......Geeez....do you think I would come up with a number like 62% off the top of my head?

 

[hawkssb04]

Oh hey look, we pissed away another one when victory was in our grasp. It's OK, though, because they're young. That's all. Youth is why we lose the close ones. Youth. Did I emphasize youth? :wall:

 

[LarrytheFarmer]

Oh hey look, we pissed away another one when victory was in our grasp. It's OK, though, because they're young. That's all. Youth is why we lose the close ones. Youth. Did I emphasize youth? :wall:

I hope that YOU are NOT the one driving the fan bus when WSU is back to kicking ass next year. :twocents:

 

[SWWeatherCat]

Oh hey look, we pissed away another one when victory was in our grasp. It's OK, though, because they're young. That's all. Youth is why we lose the close ones. Youth. Did I emphasize youth? :wall:

I hope that YOU are NOT the one driving the fan bus when WSU is back to kicking ass next year. :twocents:

There's a fan bus?

 

[SWWeatherCat]

Hmmm...several scrums on the floor in the semifinal games and they all seem to be called jump-balls, I guess I couldn't see the obvious, blatant foul by Bolomboy any of the 3 times I watched it.

 

[wsucatfan]

Another Griz win, another controversial ending. UM wins 61-59 over NAU. This is getting comical, phantom call on Joel to give the Griz a chance for OT, then this. I wonder what is going to happen tonight to help the Griz win. :roll:


"Following a layup with .4 seconds left on the clock, a member of the Montana bench sprinted onto the court. After a review by the officials, it was determined he did not affect play and no technical foul was assessed."
http://azdailysun.com/news/local/na...cle_6e1e3a0b-1428-5005-a350-526ec70eca31.html

"After Gregory's winning layup, some fans started to run onto the floor. Play was stopped and the officials determined that because the fans did not interfere with the play on the floor, no technical foul would be assessed against Montana." http://missoulian.com/sports/colleg...cle_7798967b-9443-530c-a4e8-b5f8c2c9efa6.html

 

[sacstateman]

It wasn't just some over exuberant fans who came on the floor.........Jermaine Edmonds (academically ineligible Montana player) was in the middle of the floor when NAU had the ball ready to inbound......THAT is an automatic technical foul (for every team not named Montana)......I vote for John Stigliano as MVP of the BSC tournament so far (Most Valuable Person).....

 

[catscratched]

I am actually encouraged by the fact that our officials are willing and eager to cheat for our top seeded team to get to the dance. What that shows me is that we are getting closer to other conference's in how our officials operate. Maybe now we can get them to cheat the same way in some of our OOC games like the officials in the PAC12 or WCC. If the NCAA is not going to handle this situation, we should, at least, get the most out of our officials. :thumb: :thumb:

 

[ZonaCat]

Another Griz win, another controversial ending. UM wins 61-59 over NAU. This is getting comical, phantom call on Joel to give the Griz a chance for OT, then this. I wonder what is going to happen tonight to help the Griz win. :roll:


"Following a layup with .4 seconds left on the clock, a member of the Montana bench sprinted onto the court. After a review by the officials, it was determined he did not affect play and no technical foul was assessed."
http://azdailysun.com/news/local/na...cle_6e1e3a0b-1428-5005-a350-526ec70eca31.html

"After Gregory's winning layup, some fans started to run onto the floor. Play was stopped and the officials determined that because the fans did not interfere with the play on the floor, no technical foul would be assessed against Montana." http://missoulian.com/sports/colleg...cle_7798967b-9443-530c-a4e8-b5f8c2c9efa6.html

Wow. That was quite the ending in the NAU-Mont game. It reminds me of our championship game at Mont a few years ago where we were shooting FT's with seconds to go and the game on the line. We made a FT and for some odd reason the ref stopped the game and said the FT didn't count, made the score table take the point off the scoreboard and redo the FT's. At the redo of the one-on-one this time we missed the first free throw and Mont got the rebound. It changed the game and Mont barely won and went to the NCAA's. I remember Rahe was furious at the redo of the FT.

In any case, I saw the video. After Mont's made layup to take the lead NAU inbounds the ball and there is a guy from Mont's bench in shirt and tie right in the middle of where NAU is inbounding the ball. He realizes his mistake as he's standing right next to the NAU guy with the ball and he dives "superman-like" off the court. By the rulebook it should have been a "T". I can understand why NAU's Murphy was upset but in reality NAU was looking at a 3/4 court desperation shot to win the game. Both teams/coaches then nearly came to blows at the handshake. Montana got away with one again (see phantom foul called on Bolomboy in previous game to give Mont FT's to tie the game, although granted we still had 2 missed FT's that would have won the game).

I hope EWU wins tonight. They are the best team in the league this year.

 

[SWeberCat02]

I hope EWU wins tonight. They are the best team in the league this year.

I agree. EWU could get a 15 seed, maybe a 14. UM will probably be in a "play in" game, then could face Kentucky. That would be a huge embarrassment.

 

[SWWeatherCat]

The ending was not without controversy. Someone from the Montana bench, whom the Big Sky Conference has identified as Jermaine Edmonds, an academically ineligible player for the Grizzlies, went out to midcourt before realizing there was still time remaining and diving back to the sideline -- a violation that could have resulted in a technical foul. But officials determined that the commotion did not interfere with the play, and no technical was called. However, when the head coaches met in the postgame handshake line, Northern Arizona coach Jack Murphy appeared to poke DeCuire in the chest and a scuffle ensued with some shoving but no apparent punches thrown.
...
The Big Sky Conference said that commissioner Doug Fullerton did an initial review of the incident after the game.

"... The one thing people want to know about is (Montana coach) Travis (DeCuire). I see absolutely no action by Travis that would cause us to suspend him or cause any problems for Travis tomorrow. We're still reviewing the head coach at Northern Arizona.''

What a huge relief! I'm so glad the technical foul "did not interfere with the play," so the rule did not have to be enforced.

I can sleep better knowing Fullerton said in a statement, "The one thing people want to know about is (Montana coach) Travis (DeCuire). I see absolutely no action by Travis that would cause us to suspend him or cause any problems for Travis tomorrow. We're still reviewing the head coach at Northern Arizona." Thank you, Doug, for putting to rest any problems with the BSC's flagship team!

I also find it interesting that Fullerton calls Montana's rookie coach by name, then refers to Murphy as the head coach of Northern Arizona. Could you make it sound anymore like favoritism than you already did?