-
Hi Guest, want to participate in the discussions, keep track of read/unread posts, upgrade to remove ads and more? Create your free account and increase the benefits of your BigSkyFans.com experience today!
7th in the league?
- Thread starter Golpher
- Start date
ManOfVision
Active member
I konw we can't go to the NCAA tourny this year, but what about the Big Sky tourny? I'm guessing no, because it would be embarassing for the conference to have their champion not eligible, but thought I'd confirm.
BroadwayVik
Active member
We have two fine centers, fine guards and forwards. A coaching staff considered players' coaches.
I grow weary of the futility of preseason polls. They gain no one anything but CAN be used to insult others.
We reject their ploy and blow it back like smoke in their faces. I take such tactics with a grain of salt and a sour lime. Let's give all these hackneyed league pollsters a big raspberry and brush away their airheaded prejudices.
I grow weary of the futility of preseason polls. They gain no one anything but CAN be used to insult others.
We reject their ploy and blow it back like smoke in their faces. I take such tactics with a grain of salt and a sour lime. Let's give all these hackneyed league pollsters a big raspberry and brush away their airheaded prejudices.
We ran into the same ignorance in football, Broadway. In the beginning everyone either ignored us or put us down with ISU. You noticed it's changed now. Respect comes with winning. People look a little more closely. Right now no one knows anything about our "new guys" with basketball, but they will when we start winning. As for the "coaches poll" - they should know better than to put us down in 7th; something else is at work. Same thing happened with volleyball. Coaches had us in first tied with Montana followed by EWU and then UNC. Now halfway through the season UNC is tied with us for first, with Montana barely next and playing even with ISU and Sac State. As for basketball post-season, who cares? We can win the conference and let everyone wonder what might have been.
BroadwayVik
Active member
I bet you're right. The conference is really more suited to the Mountain Time Zone with the border being about where EWU is. Why do you suppose a league dubbed "Big Sky Conference" is so "Montana-centric" (Montana meaning Mountained) ... ?
The conference has been Montana-centered from the beginning. Back in '63 when the league was formed there was a popular novel drifting around written about Montana called "The Big Sky". The new commissioners thought it was a perfect name for the conference. At that time, of course, it was all mountain states. When Nevada and Boise State dropped out of the conference in '96, the Pacific Coast was brought in with PSU and Sac State (Northridge came in too, but it proved to be too expensive and they dropped).
I suspect most in the Big Sky still see Sac State and us as an add-on, an after thought. EWU though "Western" is Spokane; Gonzaga was an early member, so EWU more easily is considered sort of "mountain". The Big Sky headquarters is in Ogden - mountain. The server for this forum is, if I'm not mistaken, run by U. Montana. You can't get away from it.
It's a pity we can't afford the WAC. We'd fit better. But there's no point in agonizing about it. We're stuck as a Little Brother of the Mountain League.
I suspect most in the Big Sky still see Sac State and us as an add-on, an after thought. EWU though "Western" is Spokane; Gonzaga was an early member, so EWU more easily is considered sort of "mountain". The Big Sky headquarters is in Ogden - mountain. The server for this forum is, if I'm not mistaken, run by U. Montana. You can't get away from it.
It's a pity we can't afford the WAC. We'd fit better. But there's no point in agonizing about it. We're stuck as a Little Brother of the Mountain League.
BroadwayVik
Active member
Norm Daniels has financial leverage and I'm sure many of his social circle do as well. He got excited when JG came because he also sees the need for PSU to potentiate a move up. I wonder if there is a discreet group of endowed supporters who are right now waiting in the wings willing-and-able to set the ways-and-means to meet-and-beat the expense of moving up for Portland State.
I know Pres. Wim Wiewell knows well the direct and ancillary benefits and value to a university of such a move. Why, an invitational acceptance would literally drive the construction of a new basketball arena, certainly for the sake of compliance.
Just because we cannot specifically identify such a group for PSU does not mean it is not already there (it also does not mean it IS there, but we do know that Norm Daniels is there). Is he all alone on would it not make sense that he would be one of several? Such a group is likely conditionally-committed to weigh in on strategy planning issues for the benefit of Portland State University once a WAC invitation has been offered. Their directorship makes the move possible.
Usually, such leadership-groups run in threes as Phil Knight, Pat Kilkenny, Larry Lokey do for the UO. Can you imagine, say, Norm Daniels, Michael Richardson, Jerry Nudelman as the leadership-group for Portland State? Maybe others in addition.
I know Pres. Wim Wiewell knows well the direct and ancillary benefits and value to a university of such a move. Why, an invitational acceptance would literally drive the construction of a new basketball arena, certainly for the sake of compliance.
Just because we cannot specifically identify such a group for PSU does not mean it is not already there (it also does not mean it IS there, but we do know that Norm Daniels is there). Is he all alone on would it not make sense that he would be one of several? Such a group is likely conditionally-committed to weigh in on strategy planning issues for the benefit of Portland State University once a WAC invitation has been offered. Their directorship makes the move possible.
Usually, such leadership-groups run in threes as Phil Knight, Pat Kilkenny, Larry Lokey do for the UO. Can you imagine, say, Norm Daniels, Michael Richardson, Jerry Nudelman as the leadership-group for Portland State? Maybe others in addition.
