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Academic Progress Rates (APRs)

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martymoose

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Do we lose scholarships due to this?

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/2008-05-06-apr-penalties_N.htm
 
Looks like PSU might lose one or two scholarships according to the article.

•In men's basketball: Fifty-three programs — about one in every six in Division I — were sanctioned, including 39 that drew actual penalties. Tennessee was among those getting "warning-shot" cuts of one or two scholarships. So were 2008 NCAA tournament participants Purdue, Kansas State, Southern California, South Alabama and Portland State.
 
Woah, poor program! Don't get me wrong, I'm all in favor of keeping the college in 'collegiate sports' and enforcing strict academic standards for student athletes. But taking away scholarships, which for some kids are the only way to earn a college degree, is not a wise decision.
 
martymoose said:
Wow, I just heard on The Fan that Washington State Football is losing nine (9) scholarships. Wow.
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Ouch, looks like Wulff has his first full recruiting class cut out for him.
 
PSU may always be in danger taking in guys who already have academic problems at other schools. I hope PSU has the resources to fix the problem with at least the basketball program. Football, with its massive roster, would be much more difficult.
 
And it's not getting any better in the short term (Tief is leaving, on top of Hammond).
I'll say it again (and yes I realize frinq (and forestgreen) that there is no money at PSU for staff, tutors, etc.), but Bone, Geving and staff pay none or absolutely minimal attention to academics, and their lackadaisical, care less attitude towards the players' welfare, development, and schooling is systemic in the program.
 
I hadn't heard anything about Tiefenthaler leaving before, so that's news to me. Hammond's background made him a gamble, but with his talent I can see why the coaching staff rolled the dice on him. You have to take some calculated chances no matter what program you're talking about. However, if the coaching staff is nonchalant about academics as you say, it will be downfall of them and unfortunately the program. I just don't see Bone being that shortsighted, but I'm not that close to the program to know. I hope you're wrong.
 
That's too bad about Tief. I know his game is somewhat similar to Mara's and Coston's, but I really think he can play. He showed real promise at UP and in his short time at PSU. The Kansas game only reaffirmed my belief in his talent.
 
I haven't seen it with my own eyes, but I do know they have mandatory sessions and a tutor for the team. Either that or Bone was lying to me, which personally I doubt. And I doubt that Bone is OK with the possibility of losing scholarships or the fact that some of his players might be ineligible. College is difficult and some of these kids struggle, the tools are in place to help them.
 
Tief is leaving?!?!

Grades?

Man, remember his breakout game on the road against ISU last year? He was deadly from the outside.
 
jjd, you're right about some of the coaches keeping close attention to GPAs. I hope Bone's one of them, though I'm sure what little staff we have tries to keep track of all the teams. I see precious few of them in my classes, but when I do have them, I receive at least two form queries from Athletics asking how they're doing, attendance etc. every term. I have a member of the track team right now, and he's doing fine.
 
jjd45 said:
I haven't seen it with my own eyes, but I do know they have mandatory sessions and a tutor for the team. Either that or Bone was lying to me, which personally I doubt. And I doubt that Bone is OK with the possibility of losing scholarships or the fact that some of his players might be ineligible. College is difficult and some of these kids struggle, the tools are in place to help them.
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College is difficult, that's the point. None of the Oregon public universities are particularly hard to get into (most programs, that is), but being admitted and being successful are two very different things.

Money can help solve a number of problems, but if the attitude, the background, or simply the necessary intelligence are not there, the student (athlete) will fail. Can't blame that on PSU, student support is there. There is counselling, there is extra support for first-generation/non-traditional students. And even if they didn't have a special tutor, there is a very nice tutoring center in Smith, open every day of the week for drop in.
 
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