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Akey out at Idaho
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Well, it was probably a matter of time. His horrible record there aside, I wonder if this has anything to do with UI's inevitable return to the Big Sky for football. I imagine they hire based off of that inevitability. One thing is for sure, whoever they hire better be interested in coaching in the Big Sky.
As always, I am in fear of them going after our coaching staff. I just hope Baldwin is smarter than that and continues to build a dynasty at Eastern rather than be associated with the dumpster fire that is UI football.
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As always, I am in fear of them going after our coaching staff. I just hope Baldwin is smarter than that and continues to build a dynasty at Eastern rather than be associated with the dumpster fire that is UI football.
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eaglesfootball
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I dont think we will lose the coaching staff to Idaho, maybe a position coach here or there but not the core. Im not sure how Baldwin could justify a move to quite possibly the worst position in FBS that pays only very slightly higher than what he makes now, has poor facilities by fbs standards and very limited potential for growth. eastern has a much higher upside and is only just now starting to realize a vision of what our football program could be in the future. i saw this posted on the idaho forum by a vandal fan and i think it sums up pretty well the state of affairs there.
Who the hell is going to want this job, here is what the ad should look like:
WANTED: Football coach
Horrible salary, about $150K for an FBS job
You have no conference to play in, no all conference teams for your kids
You won't be able to tell recruits and parents what league (OR DIVISION) they will play in when they graduate.
Every school you recruit against will use this against you, even the fcs ones, and they will steal some good recruits
You get to play in the smallest (AND WORST) facility in all of DI
You get to play 3 BCS games on the road every year.
You get about 2 or 3 winnable games each year.
You get to work for the worst AD in all of Division I, athletes don't like him, coaches don't like him.
There are no plans to get out of the worst facility in DI
There are no plans after two years from now as to where you will play.
Who the hell is going to want this job, here is what the ad should look like:
WANTED: Football coach
Horrible salary, about $150K for an FBS job
You have no conference to play in, no all conference teams for your kids
You won't be able to tell recruits and parents what league (OR DIVISION) they will play in when they graduate.
Every school you recruit against will use this against you, even the fcs ones, and they will steal some good recruits
You get to play in the smallest (AND WORST) facility in all of DI
You get to play 3 BCS games on the road every year.
You get about 2 or 3 winnable games each year.
You get to work for the worst AD in all of Division I, athletes don't like him, coaches don't like him.
There are no plans to get out of the worst facility in DI
There are no plans after two years from now as to where you will play.
TransyCat09
Member
Johnelle can finally settle back into his home state school and bring them from the depths of despair to slightly above laughable... then leave midseason.
Maybe Idaho can get together with one of those loan consolidators on TV and present Johnelle an attractive offer, plus a sweet TV commercial gig talking about how he only had to pay $2,000 of his $40 million debt.
Maybe Idaho can get together with one of those loan consolidators on TV and present Johnelle an attractive offer, plus a sweet TV commercial gig talking about how he only had to pay $2,000 of his $40 million debt.
Baldwin won't seriously consider it. If it got offered to Graham or Best, then maybe they'd leave. John L would seem like a legitimate candidate if he doesn't get retained at Arkansas (which is highly unlikely, although they do seem like they've found a groove after that awful spell).
Idaho won't really be an option for an up-and-coming coach. You go to a program like that and win 2-3 games each year and your stock plummets. Look at Bobby Hauck... he was considered a potential Pac-10/2 candidate at one time, went to UNLV and fell into the crapper.
Idaho won't really be an option for an up-and-coming coach. You go to a program like that and win 2-3 games each year and your stock plummets. Look at Bobby Hauck... he was considered a potential Pac-10/2 candidate at one time, went to UNLV and fell into the crapper.
clawman said:
Scheduling certainly plays into it. Idaho never realized a revenue stream that put them into a real FBS-type of level. As a result, they had to shop around for bodybag games wherever they could find them just to make ends meet. It seems like every year, they had two or three games that were flat out unwinnable for a team of their caliber.
The crazy thing is Idaho used to fill the Kibbie Dome 4-5 times each year when they were a Big Sky team and winning. They were always at or near capacity when EWU came to town. Now they only sell out when Boise State comes to town, which they won't any more since they left the WAC. Idaho even pushed the 10,000 range with their basketball program attendance. Leaving the Big Sky just killed them.
Has anybody seen their schedule next season? They play New Mexico State TWICE just to get enough games. That's some junior high shit right there.
I wonder where the majority of the pressure to stay FBS is coming from. I have a hard time believing that the vast majority of Idaho alums think it's in their best interests to stay at the FBS level as an Indy. I will admit that their schedule next season is better than I thought it would be, even with the playing NMSU twice bit, which is pretty Busche League. But I doubt they can put together anything remotely resembling a winnable schedule on a consistent basis. Everything about UI's football program screams Big Sky...
They also had a far better basketball program in their Big Sky days as well. I remember a time when we couldn't beat them.
What's even harder to understand is the pure hatred some of their fans have for the Big Sky. They hate Montana, they hate Montana State, they still look at EWU as if it was still the 1980's. Very strange indeed. Seems as if some of them are living in an alternate dimension.
They also had a far better basketball program in their Big Sky days as well. I remember a time when we couldn't beat them.
What's even harder to understand is the pure hatred some of their fans have for the Big Sky. They hate Montana, they hate Montana State, they still look at EWU as if it was still the 1980's. Very strange indeed. Seems as if some of them are living in an alternate dimension.
I'll say this though, I don't feel bad at all for their program. Sucks to be one of their fans. But they made their choices, and continuously made bad ones. Plus, they never wanted EWU in the Big Sky and tried blocking admission back in the 80s (and were successful the first go-round). Seriously, I see no reason to even let them into the Big Sky now. They're falling and I see no reason to help break their fall.
Screamin_Eagle174
Active member
:+1: :twisted:LDopaPDX said:
Just read an article online that mentioned Akey's possible replacements. Baldwin was mentioned, as was Sac State's Marshall Sperbeck. Ughhh, hopefully this is just speculation...what a mistake that would be. I still think there's more to Akey's firing than just W/L. I think they are possibly posturing to "reset" if they make the move to the Big Sky, which I think they will in 2014.
ewunerd
Active member
With the talent EWU has returning over the next couple years I'd hope Baldwin can stick around for a few years and be able to take a bigger and better job than Idaho. Thats a bigger rebuilding job than Wazzu and Idaho won't be getting a big name coach to lure recruits. If Gateway comes into fruition we'll have a nicer stadium and facilities than Idaho too.
ewunerd said:
Baldwin would be pipedream for UI. They don't pay any more than Eastern. The program at UI is not even on par with Eastern, and that includes having 22 more schollies. What the F is in it for him? I guarantee you any coach like Zornes who talks to Baldwin is saying "run, run away from that job!"
The best gig for Beau would be an OC job at a top level BCS school, or a head job at something like New Mexico or San Diego State, where you go still be a game or three above .500 and competing for a decent bowl each year.
Baldwin is a coach with options, and he can now pick and choose until he finds the right fit. Idaho would be the exact wrong fit. Idaho would be best to try and get the guy at Humboldt State or John L.... a guy who's been around the block but comes with some baggage.
As bI think of it, maybe Coach Burton from Portland State would consider Idaho. He's a great recruiter. He seems to have a good philosophy for coaching, although it doesn't translate much better than .500. He might be someone who'd jump at a chance to have an FBS coaching opportunity. There is very little support at Portland State worth sticking around for.
