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Biased Kansas Scouting Report

beakumhawks

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First of all, congrats on making the big dance. Allow me to echo the sentiments of other KU posters that have visited this board and say that you got hosed on your seed.

Having watched my Jayhawks all year, I thought I would give you an idea of what to expect, warts and all.


In the past Kansas has liked to play an up-tempo style, as they have had big men who could run the floor. That's true this year as well, but I think this years team has played a half court offense better than Kansas teams in the past. If you watched the Kansas-Texas game Kansas absolutely killed the Texas zone. Any intelligent coach would have switched to a man-to-man, but Rick Barnes has never been accused of being intelligent.

Kansas basically goes with a seven man rotation (four guards and three bigs), with occasional minutes by Cole Aldrich (big man) and Roderick Stewart (forward/guard). It's not unusual to see all seven players in the rotation put in the same amount of minutes. First the guards:

Brandon Rush - First team all league selection. Brandon declared for the NBA last season, but had an injury prior to the draft and returned to school. Brandon is a good defender, and a very good shooter. He's one of KU's main three point threats. The knock on Brandon is that at times he does not play aggressive enough.

Mario Chambers - In my viewpoint I would have put Mario on the first team all league instead of Rush. Not a knock on Rush, but Mario is terrific. He scored 30 against Texas in the Big 12 Championship game. Probably Kansas's best three point shooter.

Russell Robinson Russell doesn't score much, but if ignored he can hit the three point shot. He mainly concentrates on playing defense and distributing the ball.

Sherron Collins Probably Kansas's best player at penetrating to the basket. He's really started to play well the past couple of weeks, as injuries have healed up.

The big men:

Darrell Arthur Another first team all Big 12 selection. His achilles heel this season has been foul problems. He commits too many of them, and many of them are foolish fouls. He's got the skill to manuver around the basket, and has range out to the free throw line.

Darnell Jackson The feel-good story of the year for Kansas. This kid and his family have been through hell. One of the most touching aspects of Senior night at Kansas was Darnell's speech, when he told his mom that if he could he would take all of the pain that she has experienced and put in inside of him. As a player Darnell has progressed from an occasional appearance last year to a starter this year. He also has range out to the free throw line.

Sasha Kaun - Will get his points under the basket. Sasha is KU's banger. Think Ivan Drago with curly hair.

Strengths - You really can't point at one person on the Kansas roster and say "we've got to stop him." Scoring is very distributed on this team. This is a team that plays very unselfish. Sometimes too unselfish. Against Texas Kansas had 25 assists on 26 baskets. Kansas plays a man-to-man defense probably 95% of the time. Their rebounding can be very good, but at times they have fallen asleep and been killed on the boards. In the regular season game against Texas A&M Kansas outrebounded A&M by something like 20. In the Big 12 tournament game against A&M they were outrebounded by double digits. Go figure. Kansas likes to run, and as a result I doubt that you guys will be crashing the boards with three or four players on every shot.

Weaknesses Kansas has had trouble with quick guards that can penetrate. One of the reasons that Arthur has foul problems is that he has to come over and help when a guard penetrates into the lane. Teams that have had the best luck against Kansas have had their guard penetrate, then dish it out for a three. Kansas can at times be too unselfish, and that can lead to some silly turnovers. At times Kansas will pass up a very good shot for a very, very good shot. This can lead to some frustrating turnovers. Kansas killed the zone that Texas threw at them, but they were patient. This resulted in either a wide open three point shot, or a pass inside for a dunk.

How to beat Kansas If you are going to try and rebound with Kansas you are going to need some big bodies. Otherwise I would not crash everyone, and work on getting back on defense. The Kansas bigs can run well for big bodies. Patience is going to be a key. If you work the ball on offense and not get flustered by the Kansas pressure you can get some good looks. If you are going to beat Kansas you need to avoid the Kansas run. Kansas can score points in bunches. On defense you need to pressure the ball. Collins is the best bet that Kansas has at penetrating. The others you really need to play tight defense on, as they are all three point threats. You need to limit Kansas on the offensive boards. The rebounding of your bigs will be huge in this game. If Kaun, Jackson and Arthur can control the offensive boards it is going to be along night. And finally, you need to control the tempo. Limit the number of possessions.

Good luck Thursday!
 
Congrats on your first tournament PSU. The scouting report above given above is accurate. I was watching your championship game and I am impressed by your team. That Dominguez kid is fun to watch. I was thinking he should be considered a very dangerous player, then they said he was player of the year. Looking at some other seeds, you guys deserved to get higher than a 16. What to expect in Omaha. Well, "Kansas fans travel well" might be an understatement. You will see more blue in the stands than you may have ever seen at a basketball game. The first two rounds are just so fun to watch. I'm sure that no matter the outcome, you guys will get some great moments out of it. Our team will not overlook you. We've had some bad losses in the tourney under Self in the past few years. Come visit us at scout.com(click on kansas under colleges).
 
A little background about Darnell Jackson and the tragedies that he has had to deal with. A big man with a big heart carrying a big load for his family. When he makes a good play he will often thump his chest as a salute to his fallen grandmother. Also some info about Roderick Stewart and his family
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2008/feb/23/two_jayhawks_shaken_relatives_deaths/?sports

The senior speeches were mentioned. It is a tradition at Kansas that after the conclusion of the final home game each season the seniors are given a microphone and can speak on any topic of their desire for as long as they like. It's a very special night every year. All 16000+ stay to listen. Nobody leaves early.

Here is a YouTube of Darnell's speech.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfEcoe8SNco

Many grown men teared up while listening to Darnell. He may not be the All American Superstar at Kansas, but he is very much loved at KU.
 
Some further observations:

Kansas almost never plays zone defense. When we do, we're not very good at it. We're somewhat vulnerable to an inside-outside-inside game because the bigs tend to move out to the perimeter to help on defense, thus sometimes leaving a lane open for a drive or a pass inside for an easy layup.

Kansas doesn't play its best offense when confronted with a slow-down game. We want to play fast, which leads to turnovers, and sometimes we lose patience when we're forced to play a game that requires that we value each possession. We're very good at fast breaks and ally-oops when it's clicking (and it can really click at times), but when the timing is off, we tend to commit too many turnovers trying to force the issue. An average free throw shooting team. Kaun, however, is below average, but improved.

Rush: Junior wing man. Doesn't shoot well with his left hand. Doesn't dribble very well and doesn't have the best handles. Not much of a threat to make his own shot, but he's improved of late because (a) he's finally starting to recover from an ACL tear and (b) constant prodding by his mother and coach to "be more aggressive." That said, he can destroy you if left alone, or has a short path to the hoop, or if allowed to shoot off set plays and screens. An explosive rebounder. An awesome defender. Probable first round pick this year because of his outside shooting and defensive skills.

Chalmers (not Chambers): McDonald's All American combo guard, now a junior. Best hands on the team. All Big 12 defender. Steals the ball so fast you can easily miss it, even on replay. Runs the fast break to perfection. Excellent shooter from 3. Can drive, can dish (leads team in assists). I guess the only knock on him is that he's not a "pure" point guard and once in awhile he doesn't show up (figuratively speaking). But he's my favorite Jayhawk, so forgive my bias.

Robinson: Senior combo guard. Described by some as the "heart and soul" of the team. Another threat to steal the ball. (You may have gathered by now that Kansas thrives on forced turnovers). Less effective at creating his own play than either Chalmers or Collins, and tends to drive inside with little chance to dish, finish or draw a foul. But he contributes so much defensively that he remains a starter.

Collins: Sophomore combo guard. McDonald's All American. Comes off the bench to give that certain extra something. He's just a fearless ball of fire playmaker. At long last, he's nearly fully recovered from a series of injuries. When he's on, the 'hawks are practically unstoppable. Our best threat to penetrate inside and make the ball do amazing things on its way to the basket. Can hit the 3. Aggressive defender as well.

Arthur: McDonalds All American Sophomore forward. Likely first round draft pick this year. Best raw talent on the team. Has developed some nice inside moves under guidance from assistant coach Danny Manning. Amazing on offense when motivated to work for position. When not, he's been a disappointment. Less effective defensively, but improving. Prone to early foul trouble swatting at guards driving past him.

Jackson: Senior power forward. Not as talented as Arthur, but more focused and determined. Better rebounder. Has developed a decent fade-away shot from close in. Lost some weight and his quickness has improved. Works his tail off. Despite what's been said about Robinson, this guy is really the heart and soul of this team, IMO. Otherwise, not much to add to what Beakum said.

Kaun: Big, strong dude from Russia. Senior center/forward. Comes off the bench to relieve Arthur and Jackson. Has also improved his inside moves and shot under Manning's guidance, but still prone to fire it off the glass when he gets excited. Sets a good screen. Not the best hands (actually, his hands, uh, suck), but he's a banger. Best post defender on the team. Tends to get out of position chasing guards around, but not so much as the season has progressed.

Cole Aldrich: He'll play some Thursday. A big freshman McDonald's All American, with lots of talent but still raw. Gets out of position at times on defense. Has a soft touch around the riim and nice rebounding skills.

Rodrick Stewart: You'll probably see him Thursday. Senior guard/small forward. A very athletic player who transferred from Southern California in December 2004. Did not become eligible until December 2005. Played point guard at USC, yet has played the two, three and four at KU. Quick and has great leaping ability. A solid defender who plays well in the open court.
 
here are as many vids as i can find on ku and our players, while not really searching that long, haha. It sucks for you guys because this is probably one of the best teams ever when playing their A game.

Darrell Arthur:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_ODKbu0fcys

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2xyocIqXuWM&feature=related

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0SxbcRR1WbY&feature=related

Brandon Rush:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=B-_LwpNq_p8

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ht_AGsr9QGo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kkhc9hsn3sA&feature=related

Mario Chalmers:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=BgjTl2l_e5s

http://youtube.com/watch?v=3eZrJuAJ1TY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNuVDXWMqcQ&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMwMRFzDAmg&feature=related

Darnell Jackson:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kkhc9hsn3sA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUJO1wdZvd0&feature=related

Sherron Collins(My Fav Player):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJIG0x9R3kc&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIO47nxTG0Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSicFi6r0BU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muMK-C9T7rA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BWyc3QDRxk

Sasha Kaun:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytrbjv8TUww

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3OYfvJszBA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzyYsfXl-a0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP08OnnKHSk&feature=related

Cole Aldrich:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvqjP3NVLYg&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3_XHV1mL1Q

Russell Robinson:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJtbonRhuEA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUVpUg27yjY

Allen Fieldhouse:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDQrelRFdVQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEhLRixKOPA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oNg1QoBg6w&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVmgqNl7Dtc&feature=related

Kansas Basketball:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU_hDJPHQIY&feature=related

just fyi, the two guys holding the basketball at the beginning of this vid is naismith and allen, the games inventor and the man who invented the actual art of coaching

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm9Z5SKpWJo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxSC3e_rvtg&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCln-VmmFVo&feature=related
 
Duly noted and corrected. Must have confused RR with Ryan Robertson. (-; As to Sasha, I got some bad info. You just can't believe anything these days.
 
When Coston cans a three-pointer at the buzzer to oust the Jay's the Viks are honoered and remembered along side the US hockey team that won the gold back in 19??. The dogs will have their day...OH! I'm sorry I must have been sleep walking zzzzzzz
 
You Kansas fans, in your weakness assessments, kind of describe Portland State's offense as a threat to you... issue being the difference in quickness and size at most positions.

Dominguez can penetrate on anyone... but he's 5'6" and needs motion from others when he's driving. PSU works best in that scenario.

Scott Morrison, 6'11", Big Sky defensive player of the year... unsure of how physical he'd really be against Kansas, certainly not quick, not sure his shooting range is more than 3 feet. People here were generally upset that the coaching staff sat him as long as they did (and do) in games, but the half-court traps and high pressure seem to work just as well without him, and it allows PSU not to worry too much about Morrison potentially being in foul trouble.

More to be said... I'll get there.
 
the problem with facing kansas in the post is that no matter what kind of post game you have, we can counter it. if you have 2 bruisers, we just roll out kaun(255) and aldrich(245), both 6'11" guys whose real job is post d. if you have an athletic frontcourt, it's prob not as athletic as ours. arthur and dj rival anyone elses bigs in terms of running the floor and athleticism. i think you can see in the vids i linked how unreal arthur can be.

with the guards we are also incredibly versatile. chalmers might and should win defensive player of the year. no one disrupts an offense more in the backcourt than the rusrob chalmers duo. rush is a 6'6" swingman who shut down durant at times last year, and is also an amazing defender. he is a great rebounder and 3 pt specialist. collins on offense will pretty much do one of 3 things:

drive the lane and kick out to an open rush or chalmers for a 3
drive the lane and make an amazing layup
drive the lane and make an amazing and 1 or draw the fould

sherron is healthy, so dont try to stop him, just contain him and hope rush, arthur, chalmers, and dj dont kill you.

i will have a huge breakdown later, but im about to walk into a test!
 
I think Coston and Tiefenthaler will be key in this game for the Viks. Either can stretch the D and offer JD a little more wiggle room. Nobody talks about Alex because he hasn't played as much lately, but his combination of size and outside shooting can be a big asset (see Idaho State). I'd play a lineup of JD, Murray, Huff, Alex, and Coston, and see how that works.
 
ManOfVision said:
I think Coston and Tiefenthaler will be key in this game for the Viks. Either can stretch the D and offer JD a little more wiggle room. Nobody talks about Alex because he hasn't played as much lately, but his combination of size and outside shooting can be a big asset (see Idaho State). I'd play a lineup of JD, Murray, Huff, Alex, and Coston, and see how that works.

It'll be interesting to see how KU comes at us on defense. We've struggled at times facing zone, yet it sounds like zone isn't exactly KU's forte.
 
Wow. Some great reading here. Thanks KU fans. Your humble generosity here is a pleasant surprise. Appreciate it!!
 
laxVik said:
Wow. Some great reading here. Thanks KU fans. Your humble generosity here is a pleasant surprise. Appreciate it!!

The pleasure is all ours. You have probably gathered that we will gladly go on and on endlessly on the subject of hoops. Thanks for being such gracious hosts and tolerating all our blather.
 
martymoose said:
ManOfVision said:
I think Coston and Tiefenthaler will be key in this game for the Viks. Either can stretch the D and offer JD a little more wiggle room. Nobody talks about Alex because he hasn't played as much lately, but his combination of size and outside shooting can be a big asset (see Idaho State). I'd play a lineup of JD, Murray, Huff, Alex, and Coston, and see how that works.

It'll be interesting to see how KU comes at us on defense. We've struggled at times facing zone, yet it sounds like zone isn't exactly KU's forte.

Yes, it's unlikely you'll see much zone, if any. Self might try it for a few possessions, but he's going to run the same defense we've seen all year. The basic half-court defense involves secondary traps and double teams, both in the perimeter and down low. We will trap the ball-screen but typically allow the first pass to be made on the perimeter. Self prefers not to rotate a defender to cover a perimeter player if it means leaving the middle open. We've been burned more than a few times this year trying to be two places at once. So you'll see the players rotate but allow the first pass to be made on the perimeter. You'll likely see a fair amount of full court pressure.

Self's philosophy is that defense keys the offense. It's a very physical, high risk/high reward type defense that trys to force steals and turnovers. Of course that can yield wide open looks for your guys if it doesn't work to perfection, which it won't all the time.

Edit: Here's a link to a video so you can see what we do:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ei4Xe2fXeQg&eurl=http://coachingbetterbball.blogspot.com/2008/01/kansas-plays-aggressive-man-defense.html
 

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