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Big Sky Policy For Ejecting Fans?

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SWeberCat02

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Anyone know what the Big Sky's policy for ejecting fans is? From what I saw on Saturday, the official (who was not a Big Sky official) simply asked a police officer to eject a fan. IMO, that's a dangerous road to go down, allowing officials to so easily eject fans that in their opinion cross the line. As has been mentioned, this also happened in the ACC this weekend, and the official has been reprimanded by that conference for doing this. But unfortunately, I wouldn't expect anything from the Big Sky because he wasn't a Big Sky official and because the Big Sky has no stones.
 
i dont know the rules but i think its totally legitimate. i think refs have the "power" to throw out fans. i have seen it before at wsu and have seen it in other sports. unruly fans should be ejected. who wants to be sitting next to one of these typical idiot fans yelling nonsense nonstop and if they took a breathalyzer would result a 3.0. not me.
 
catcat said:
i dont know the rules but i think its totally legitimate. i think refs have the "power" to throw out fans. i have seen it before at wsu and have seen it in other sports. unruly fans should be ejected. who wants to be sitting next to one of these typical idiot fans yelling nonsense nonstop and if they took a breathalyzer would result a 3.0. not me.
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But shouldn't there be some type of due process? Shouldn't the ultimate decision be made by the school officials (security) after the officials bring it to their attention? I agree that some fans should be ejected, but to give officials complete authority to throw out anyone they want, whenever they want, gives them way to much power. Apparently that's how the ACC feels. :twocents:
 
The officials ejected a blind ISU fan from the front row during the Portland State game two weeks ago. The ironies of that one are too delicious to ponder.
 
in the refs defense the dude told him he was from texas and a jacka@@. remember dont mess with texas its not nice to pick on retards... LOOOL
 
Bengal visitor said:
The officials ejected a blind ISU fan from the front row during the Portland State game two weeks ago. The ironies of that one are too delicious to ponder.
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Oh man! that would have been priceless to see :rofl: :rofl:
 
The ISU fan who got thrown out was my fault. He listens to the games on the radio from his courtside seat, and I guess I got him a little worked up with my radio call. During a dead ball he took about three steps onto the court and offered the ref his walking stick. The really funny part is that he's an ISU professor, and two weeks before he spoke to our Rotary Club and told everyone that if he ever got thrown out of a game, it would be my fault. He called it...two weeks in advance.
 
votb said:
The ISU fan who got thrown out was my fault. He listens to the games on the radio from his courtside seat, and I guess I got him a little worked up with my radio call. During a dead ball he took about three steps onto the court and offered the ref his walking stick. The really funny part is that he's an ISU professor, and two weeks before he spoke to our Rotary Club and told everyone that if he ever got thrown out of a game, it would be my fault. He called it...two weeks in advance.
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:lol:
 
votb said:
The ISU fan who got thrown out was my fault. He listens to the games on the radio from his courtside seat, and I guess I got him a little worked up with my radio call. During a dead ball he took about three steps onto the court and offered the ref his walking stick. The really funny part is that he's an ISU professor, and two weeks before he spoke to our Rotary Club and told everyone that if he ever got thrown out of a game, it would be my fault. He called it...two weeks in advance.
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That is classic!
 
I was personally embarrassed for the guy who made a fool out of himself. Regardless of how you want to look at it there is no right to due process. The venue is private, they decide who stays and who goes. Voice your opinion during the game like everyone else keep your butt in the seat and stay classy. The worst part is that he has is young son with him, lets go yell at the referee shout obscenities them show our son that this is what we do when we are in public. So sure they guy now may feel better, but him and his son have to leave because he lost his cool. So who really looses by his behavior? I support what the referee did and the actions taken by WSU.
 
bapplonie said:
I was personally embarrassed for the guy who made a fool out of himself. Regardless of how you want to look at it there is no right to due process. The venue is private, they decide who stays and who goes. Voice your opinion during the game like everyone else keep your butt in the seat and stay classy. The worst part is that he has is young son with him, lets go yell at the referee shout obscenities them show our son that this is what we do when we are in public. So sure they guy now may feel better, but him and his son have to leave because he lost his cool. So who really looses by his behavior? I support what the referee did and the actions taken by WSU.
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Welcome to the board bapplonie, and I agree, when people do that its very Utah Stateish, We had a guy when we went to logan to watch USU vs Weber and he was calling us every name in the book and he had a little boy with him, and an old lady Weber fan started pointing her finger in his face telling what a bad example he was to his boy and he responded with a resounding F YOU.

Classy guy him
 
bapplonie said:
I was personally embarrassed for the guy who made a fool out of himself. Regardless of how you want to look at it there is no right to due process. The venue is private, they decide who stays and who goes. Voice your opinion during the game like everyone else keep your butt in the seat and stay classy. The worst part is that he has is young son with him, lets go yell at the referee shout obscenities them show our son that this is what we do when we are in public. So sure they guy now may feel better, but him and his son have to leave because he lost his cool. So who really looses by his behavior? I support what the referee did and the actions taken by WSU.
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I'm not arguing that certain fans don't deserve to be tossed. My point is that to give an official absolute authority to do the tossing might be a mistake. In most cases officials will make the right judgement when ejecting a fan, but like in the case of the ACC game, some officials will unfairly overreact to certain situations.
 
The position of the referee is to control the game. That in my opinion is to prevent out side influence of fans to interrupt, harm, or cause alarm to the game in any fashion. The referee with security should have say in what action should be taken. I don't think anyone would question security personnel kicking someone out of the venue for misbehaving. So why should we question when a referee does the same thing? I look at it as a safety issue rather than a power issue.
 
Personally, I thought it was pretty funny, but shocking. I haven't seen a ref actually tell a fan to leave since Bengalhater was shown the door against Boise State in the Craven's years. but lets be honest, after Supaman, there were a lot of times I wished I would have been thrown out during those years. I still have nightmares about that lack luster motion offense Craven's teams ran.

Anyway, good points on both sides. Yes, I think a ref has the right to throw out a fan, but at the same time, I think there are times that refs goes too far. Depends on a number of factors. Were the fans warned before being thrown out, or was it an arbitrary reaction by the ref against a fan? Was the ref trying to make an example of one fan to show how powerful he was to the other fans? If the fan was warned and security had already spoken with him, then yes, the ref should throw him out. If a fan is making threats of personal harm, yes throw him out. But if the ref has been calling a bad game, which that ref had been doing, and he is trying to scare the crowd, then no the ref shouldn't be allowed to through out a fan. There are plenty of timeouts. If there is an issue with a specific fan, then the ref can talk to security during one of the many timeouts and have the fan reprimand appropriatly. If security deems that the fan is a threat remove him. There should be some steps that a ref should follow before a fan is kicked out of the game.

Utah State's fans can be bad, but if you really want to see great examples of classless fans head on up to Missoula or Laramie. Two great places to observe absolute classlessness.
 
talhadfoursteals said:
Utah State's fans can be bad, but if you really want to see great examples of classless fans head on up to Missoula or Laramie. Two great places to observe absolute classlessness.
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Never been to Missoula (although I've found UM hoops fans to be decent), but went to both football games in Laramie and was actually treated very well. We actually had several fans come by and thank us for making the trip over. Of course if we were BYU fans then we would have been treated poorly. Those Pokes absolutely hate anything associated with the school down south.
 
did anyone see former nba player tom gugliotta get kicked out of a north carolina state game last saturday? pretty funny, he is an alum, was on the first or 2nd row. it was on espn. he was heckling the refs. there are articles online about it but i am too tired to go find one for you people.
 
catcat said:
did anyone see former nba player tom gugliotta get kicked out of a north carolina state game last saturday? pretty funny, he is an alum, was on the first or 2nd row. it was on espn. he was heckling the refs. there are articles online about it but i am too tired to go find one for you people.
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That's the ACC game I've been referencing. The official was reprimanded by the conference for not following proper protocol.
 
SWeberCat02 said:
catcat said:
did anyone see former nba player tom gugliotta get kicked out of a north carolina state game last saturday? pretty funny, he is an alum, was on the first or 2nd row. it was on espn. he was heckling the refs. there are articles online about it but i am too tired to go find one for you people.
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That's the ACC game I've been referencing. The official was reprimanded by the conference for not following proper protocol.
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oh :lol:

ya its like if buzzcutt threw out harold and eddie from a game. ha ha i would not be cool with that but i am not sure if that is the same thing that happened in the dee. maybe we need breathalyzer testing to enter the dee like they should do at wa-griz. :-D
 
bapplonie said:
The position of the referee is to control the game. That in my opinion is to prevent out side influence of fans to interrupt, harm, or cause alarm to the game in any fashion. The referee with security should have say in what action should be taken. I don't think anyone would question security personnel kicking someone out of the venue for misbehaving. So why should we question when a referee does the same thing? I look at it as a safety issue rather than a power issue.
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oh' brother.. :roll: :roll: Get real, & get a grip.
 
bapplonie said:
I was personally embarrassed for the guy who made a fool out of himself. Regardless of how you want to look at it there is no right to due process. The venue is private, they decide who stays and who goes. Voice your opinion during the game like everyone else keep your butt in the seat and stay classy. The worst part is that he has is young son with him, lets go yell at the referee shout obscenities them show our son that this is what we do when we are in public. So sure they guy now may feel better, but him and his son have to leave because he lost his cool. So who really looses by his behavior? I support what the referee did and the actions taken by WSU.
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I couldn't disagree more with this post. He left the scene & he never got thrown out.
I heard alot worse than JackA$$ on Saturday. I was embarrassed for the referee.

ALSO the last thing we need in the Dee is more folks sitting on their hands. Stand up & get fired up. The browning Center has some excellent plays, symphonies, & ballets for what you prescribe.
 
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