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- Thread starter wsucatfan
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A week off after Utah. Hopefully we are ready to go.
30 points...We looked bad on defense and offense. Never had a chance in this one. Our guys might be athletic but they sure as hell aren’t basketball players.
Randy just isn’t getting the right guys. He is totally out of touch right now. I’m a Rahe fan. I think he is a man of character and integrity. He tries to do the right thing, for the program and players, but something is broken right now. This team isn’t at the level I expect for a Rahe coached team.
Randy just isn’t getting the right guys. He is totally out of touch right now. I’m a Rahe fan. I think he is a man of character and integrity. He tries to do the right thing, for the program and players, but something is broken right now. This team isn’t at the level I expect for a Rahe coached team.
oldrunner
Active member
Two thirds of the season still left. The season is still a long ways from over. It's certainly not looking very good right now.
My feelings are that everyone involved needs to take a step back, take a good long look at things, and either change some things or start planning for next year. It can still be turned around, but if they don't have the will to do it, plan your changes for next year.
My feelings are that everyone involved needs to take a step back, take a good long look at things, and either change some things or start planning for next year. It can still be turned around, but if they don't have the will to do it, plan your changes for next year.
Chex
Active member
Rahe’s quote, “Flush this one down the toilet. It’s a bad matchup for us. They’re really good. Flush it down. Go home enjoy your families and come back ready for conference”
Wow! Utah beat BYU. USU played them close. This goes to show Rahe cares nothing about in state games or non-conference teams for that matter. He doesn’t believe his teams can win these games and says as much. With the new tournament format, he doesn’t even care as much about conference games too.
You will never win big games with that attitude whether they be in state, conference tournament, or NCAA tournament. Is there a urine trail from the locker room to the bench with Rahe?
We need a coach who believes he can have a team that can compete with any team. Time to flush Rahe down the toilet!
Wow! Utah beat BYU. USU played them close. This goes to show Rahe cares nothing about in state games or non-conference teams for that matter. He doesn’t believe his teams can win these games and says as much. With the new tournament format, he doesn’t even care as much about conference games too.
You will never win big games with that attitude whether they be in state, conference tournament, or NCAA tournament. Is there a urine trail from the locker room to the bench with Rahe?
We need a coach who believes he can have a team that can compete with any team. Time to flush Rahe down the toilet!
Webergrad02
Active member
talhadfoursteals said:
A man of character and integrity doesn't run off of solid kids after one year on a whim that he can bring in an athletic transfer. A man of integrity takes accountability and doesn't continually make excuses. If Randy had character he would continue to be in the community building support for the program especially since so much of his salary comes from members of the community. Randy only cares about getting to 20 wins so he can keep it going on cruise control.
I heard many people express concern last year about how this year's roster was shaping up. Its worse than I could have imagined. Of course it's a bad match up when you throw a bunch of selfish guards on the floor. Weber State basketball is broken right now and the blame falls squarely on the shoulders of coach.
Webergrad02
Active member
oldrunner said:Two thirds of the season still left. The season is still a long ways from over. It's certainly not looking very good right now.
My feelings are that everyone involved needs to take a step back, take a good long look at things, and either change some things or start planning for next year. It can still be turned around, but if they don't have the will to do it, plan your changes for next year.
Do you honestly think next year is going to be any different? Over the last three years we are trending downward. We likely miss the post season for the third straight year. I predict we finish 7th or 8th in conference.
SWeberCat02
Active member
1-7 OOC, with only one of the losses by less than 10 points. Lost all 7 by an average of 20 points. And it's actually very surprising they didn't go 0-8. Wow! Everyone involved should be embarrassed by this.
webergrad02 said:
I've mostly just been enjoying the football season the Wildcats had, commenting on that site under a different name. But now that football is over, I just can't help commenting on the dumpster fire that is Weber basketball. First, let me go back to the Stew Morrill days at USU. Old-fashioned, hard-nosed, etc. That's where Randy Rahe developed some of his philosophy that we are seeing now. Stew retired, USU hired a former Morrill asst, and joined the MWC. I remember reading an article where Duryea, as the new coach at USU said something like they would have to start recruiting more out of state, athletic guys in order to compete in the MWC.
Duryea got fired soon after that because he wasn't winning with the new type of player he was recruiting, and the Aggies brought in Craig Smith, who is winning at a high level with mediocre athletes--kids from Utah who are not as "athletic". NEWS FLASH: athleticism doesn't always equal winning. Sam Merrill (2 stars coming out of HS), Abel Porter (1 star coming out of HS), Brock Miller (3 stars coming of of HS), Justin Bean (don't even know his stars)--4 non-athletic kids that Weber didn't recruit because they weren't "good enough", but still kicked our a**es by over 50! Culture, teamwork, not playing selfishly, actually liking your team and making them believe that together they can win anything--building a team, not just a bunch of selfish individuals that we're seeing with the Weber program right now. Randy Rahe is a dumpster fire. The only way Weber basketball will get better is with the firing/retiring of RR and the hiring of a new coach with the proper mentality to build a team.
And while I'm on a roll, I still can't believe that RR is sitting Dima Zdor--he's getting almost zero playing time. Dima has the highest ceiling of any Weber player, and he rides the pine, which is just one more indication of how screwed up the program is. If Dima had chosen a different program that played to his strengths, we'd see a double-double machine. He is not a 5, and RR keeps trying to make him one. DIma is a highly skilled big man, very versatile at 6'10"--shoots the 3, drives, and rebounds. He's a combo forward, just like we see in major college basketball. You know, guys like Timmy Allen (Utah), CJ Walker (Oregon), Isaiah Mobley (USC), Brady Manek (Oklahoma), Nate Reuvers (Wisconsin), Mamadi Diakite (Virginia). If Dima played on a team with positive culture and that allowed him to be a modern power forward, he'd be like these guys. Unfortunately, he's stuck on team with selfish guards and a coach who has no clue.
DeeScott said:
Great post and true. RR wasted Chapman and Braxton, doing the same with Kozak. He wanted to focus on the new style of Basketball. Well his new style of hoops just isn’t working. Why would a big come to Weber when Rahe’s only focus is on guards? Our guards don’t pass. It’s that simple. I bet you 85% of our shots are from the Guard position. Fuller and
Kozak can play the 5...... I’m all for Dima at 4. It'll help our defense and rebounding. Today, our bigs are just there to set picks for Harding and Cody. BYU embarrassed us..... does anyone even remember that we beat them last season?
