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Conf Season Test Begins...

davema

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I was able to attend several of the non conf games in person (Nevada, siu-e, txriogrande, grand canyon, fullerton, WSU...btw, the road is grueling) as well as the conf opener against Sac State. What I have seen is the coaching staff take a relatively new team (eight new Vikes without its top returning scorer/rebounder in Tucker and missing a key player for several games in White) thru a number of experiments to find the right formula for success. With so many new but very talented guys, it is hard to figure out what pieces fit where until you try them out and let them season a bit***. The most effective switch so far has been moving Stewart to point (turnovers are down) and Robinson to the two (scoring is up, to's down), a much more natural fit for him and the results have been fantastic. Piniero (really looking forward to watching him for the next 2.5 years), White and Spickerman all seem to be playing with a sense of calm leading to fewer bad shots and better sharing of the ball. Forte off the bench is another move that seems to be paying dividends as he is a tough matchup for the opposing teams bench and brings a lot of energy. The latest starting lineup seems to be really tough defensively, as well (last couple of games they've produced increased to's/steals, slowing high scoring teams like Sac. St). And, there is solid depth waiting in the wings should the need arise. I am excited to see how things go during conference now that they've worked through the experiments. One down, seventeen to go. They are ready for the conference tests...next up, the Griz. Go Vikes!

***IMHO, the schools who are able to recruit four year guys have an advantage getting up to speed early in the season and their records usually show it. Case in point, sac state, a solid team, sneaking up on ASU. They are loaded with four year players who have played together longer than the vikes (and probably ASU with their new coach). That said, on a relative basis, their upside over the course of the season is limited compared to pstate, who should continue to make major strides as they proceed thru conf and the guys get more time on the court together. btw, I know we snuck up on USC last year...but the team also went on its every four year pre season trip which gave them a bunch of early practices...
 
Yeah, I like Forte off of the bench. Not to say that his talent isn't that of a starter in the Big Sky, but to your point, he's going to do really well against bench guys in the conference. Also, Geving can elect to have him on the floor in crunch time, although his free throw shooting to date (58%) is a bit of a liability. Also, hats off to Geving if he can keep Forte onboard with a bench role. Selling a guy that transferred from the SEC to come off the bench can't be easy.

The Montana trip should be a good test to see how successful these little twerks are going to be, but it looks good so far.
 
davema said:
I was able to attend several of the non conf games in person (Nevada, siu-e, txriogrande, grand canyon, fullerton, WSU...btw, the road is grueling) as well as the conf opener against Sac State. What I have seen is the coaching staff take a relatively new team (eight new Vikes without its top returning scorer/rebounder in Tucker and missing a key player for several games in White) thru a number of experiments to find the right formula for success. With so many new but very talented guys, it is hard to figure out what pieces fit where until you try them out and let them season a bit***. The most effective switch so far has been moving Stewart to point (turnovers are down) and Robinson to the two (scoring is up, to's down), a much more natural fit for him and the results have been fantastic. Piniero (really looking forward to watching him for the next 2.5 years), White and Spickerman all seem to be playing with a sense of calm leading to fewer bad shots and better sharing of the ball. Forte off the bench is another move that seems to be paying dividends as he is a tough matchup for the opposing teams bench and brings a lot of energy. The latest starting lineup seems to be really tough defensively, as well (last couple of games they've produced increased to's/steals, slowing high scoring teams like Sac. St). And, there is solid depth waiting in the wings should the need arise. I am excited to see how things go during conference now that they've worked through the experiments. One down, seventeen to go. They are ready for the conference tests...next up, the Griz. Go Vikes!

***IMHO, the schools who are able to recruit four year guys have an advantage getting up to speed early in the season and their records usually show it. Case in point, sac state, a solid team, sneaking up on ASU. They are loaded with four year players who have played together longer than the vikes (and probably ASU with their new coach). That said, on a relative basis, their upside over the course of the season is limited compared to pstate, who should continue to make major strides as they proceed thru conf and the guys get more time on the court together. btw, I know we snuck up on USC last year...but the team also went on its every four year pre season trip which gave them a bunch of early practices...

Nice analysis, you know your basketball. Parsons may be the man out, as his playing time seems to have been reduced. I would still like to see more minutes for Okonkwo and Garrison. Pineiro has continued to improve and looks to a star in the making. Go Viks!!!!
 
Hats off to Coach Geving, staff and all the players who stayed committed to finding a groove. This was a talented team that took a long time to find its way. Arguably, they were the (one of the) hottest teams going into the tourney. They peaked at the right time. Weber was lucky to survive to play another day. I can only imagine what it would be like to play North Dakota today.

Looking back, the transfer approach to recruiting has it's pros and cons for sure. Forte was a fantastic addition, but I think it was tough for a few of the guys who'd been around awhile to deal with the focus on him to score (White and probably even Spickerman, to some degree...noting his greatly diminished playing time as the season came to a close). Once the offense was funneled through Forte, things got easier for the rest of the guys. It just took a long time to get it going. Credit to the coaching staff for tweaking, tweaking, tweaking. They were fun to watch down the stretch as they continued to improve down to the last tick of the clock.

Looking forward, my favorite part of the game was when Forte was out with foul trouble and the team went on a tear. I can't wait to see what next season will bring...yes, we lose some solid players but with Tucker coming back, and what i'm sure will be some exciting addtions in the offseason, things look good for 2016-17. Go Vikes!
 

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