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Conference schedule

S

Skippy

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I got a look at the likely conference schedule. The full round robin schedule for 11 teams was very problematic, as illustrated by ISU and Weber’s schedule. Both open the conference season by playing four games in eight days, and both will end the season by playing 3 games in seven days. In between there will be weeks with just one conference game. There are also two Monday games.

ISU and Weber open conference play at home vs Idaho and EWU 12/29 and 12/31.
 
The round robin schedule helps strengthen our conference.

Coaches claim it is difficult to get home and home games against D1 competition. This helps solve this problem.

It also will give the conference a few more D1 wins, not a lot admittedly but it is something.

I also would rather watch us play conference games than D2 competition.
 
Junction, where did you see the schedule? Regardless, I agree with you. I like playing everyone twice (home and home). A 20 game schedule gives every team 10 additional DI games, a true conference champion can be crowned (Weber and Montana won crowns in seasons both only had to face each other once at home causing some heartburn in the opposing fan bases) and finally, we get to see everyone in the league.

Biggest issue is how the schedule gets set up. Multiple games in one week with weeks where Weber only plays one game. Terrible balance! Great time for the Bracket Buster to come back though haha. One can wish...
 
Bengal visitor said:
I got a look at the likely conference schedule. The full round robin schedule for 11 teams was very problematic, as illustrated by ISU and Weber’s schedule. Both open the conference season by playing four games in eight days, and both will end the season by playing 3 games in seven days. In between there will be weeks with just one conference game. There are also two Monday games.

ISU and Weber open conference play at home vs Idaho and EWU 12/29 and 12/31.
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I have a solution for the imbalance in both basketball and football scheduling. Eliminate Northern Colorado from the conference. This leaves 12 football and 10 basketball members. In basketball, teams can play home and home with a true travel partner.

EWU Idaho (1.5 hours)
Weber ISU (2 hours)
Montana MSU (4 hours)
SUU NAU (5 hours)
PSU Sac St (8 hours)

In football, we can have two 6 team divisions. Each team plays divisional competition every year (5 games) and cross divisional teams every other year on average (3 games). The final game of the year will be against a cross divisional team to be determined based on standings, ensuring a true champion and helping bubble teams prove themselves worthy to the playoff committee. For example, NAU vs EWU last year. This was a game that never happened but needed to for the sake of the conference. NAU would have got exposed by EWU who would have flipped the script against San Diego and had another shot in Fargo instead of NAU embarrassing us.

Big Sky Mountain Division
Montana
Montana St
Idaho St
Weber
SUU
NAU

Big Sky Coastal Division
PSU
EWU
Idaho
Sac St
UC Davis
Cal Poly

Problem solved. Recruits and fans will love it.
Any questions?
 
oldrunner said:
Junctioncat said:
Coaches claim it is difficult to get home and home games against D1 competition. This helps solve this problem.
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If you listen closely to what the coaches are saying, they are not saying that it is difficult to get H-n-H contracts, just that it is difficult to get the ones that they want. They get H-n-H inquiries from teams that we don't want to visit, just like we seek those contracts with teams that don't want to visit us. That really is the difficult part. You have to get beyond that crap and say that you will play anyone, anywhere. If you can do that, then scheduling becomes a bit easier. We are not there. :coffee:

The NCAA could fix this problem overnight if they wanted. Just have a rule that all game contracts must be H-n-H.
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Yeah Olds...think about it a bit more....do you want to have to go to West Coast Baptist or Black Hills State? I don't think so Olds...
 
sacstateman said:
oldrunner said:
Junctioncat said:
Coaches claim it is difficult to get home and home games against D1 competition. This helps solve this problem.
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If you listen closely to what the coaches are saying, they are not saying that it is difficult to get H-n-H contracts, just that it is difficult to get the ones that they want. They get H-n-H inquiries from teams that we don't want to visit, just like we seek those contracts with teams that don't want to visit us. That really is the difficult part. You have to get beyond that crap and say that you will play anyone, anywhere. If you can do that, then scheduling becomes a bit easier. We are not there. :coffee:

The NCAA could fix this problem overnight if they wanted. Just have a rule that all game contracts must be H-n-H.
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Yeah Olds...think about it a bit more....do you want to have to go to West Coast Baptist or Black Hills State? I don't think so Olds...
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If that rule were in place, we wouldn't play those teams. We really shouldn't be playing them now.

That rule would encourage better competition.
 
oldrunner said:
Here it is. Officially announced.

https://weberstatesports.com/news/2018/7/23/wsu-mens-basketball-big-sky-schedule-announced.aspx
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Hey Weber, how about proof reading before posting this? Jan 26 is a Sat, Jan 28 is a Mon, and Feb 28 is a Thu. :doh:
 
oldrunner said:
After going over the posted schedule a couple more times, I have come to the conclusion that it is just wrong. Either the days are wrong, the dates are wrong, or a little of both. The University and the Standard will have to reprint everything once they are given a good schedule. Somebody is asleep at the wheel. :doh: :wall:
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If you go to the schedules page on the website, they have the correct schedule, I think.

https://weberstatesports.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=153
 
The conference schedule is what it is. The nicest thing is that everyone has to play everyone else home and home. Equanimity has been restored. What can be bad is the potential for long travel with a short schedule. Someone will ultimately complain, but it really seems as if the conference gurus did try their best ensuring that everyone has a fair and equal schedule. Now, when does the OOC schedule come out?
 
Heard that the official 2018-2019 Schedule is due out soon. Guess there are a couple of wrinkles that still needed to be ironed out. What we know now is that Monday conference games are back, and that the Cats have a ho-hum conference slate. I don't necessarily feel that the schedule is bad, but I definitely don't see any advantages with it either. Decent neutral slate for the Cats.

Next, we know that the Cats are playing home games against UVU and the Y. 2 DI games is already a good sign; Fresno is a 2 for 1, which means we could be at their place again or they will be in Ogden. It doesn't mean, automatically like Tal assumes, that Fresno will be visiting Ogden this season. We know we have 4 neutral court games. One vs. Utah State in Salt Lake and the other three are San Jose, Bakersfield, and Central Michigan in the Bahamas. Based off of 10 years of experience, we can also assume on a visit to Ogden from a no name, first time, basketball playing school and a DII.

Lastly, I'm guessing there will be possibly one or maybe two, guarantee games for the Cats; meaning we will travel and get paid to play, a home and home with another DI (Summit or WAC), and if we are really lucky another Pine Bluff type team visiting Ogden. These are all guesses. I'd love another classic of some sort, but...

20 Conference games, 4 neutral, 4 home OOC (not including exhibition), 2/3 road OOC = 30/31 game schedule.
 
oldrunner said:
PURPLEFORLIFE said:
20 Conference games, 4 neutral, 4 home OOC (not including exhibition), 2/3 road OOC = 30/31 game schedule.
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Three of the four neutrals only count as one of our allowable games. Although we rarely fill up all of our potential games and I'm not sure why. Also, I think I remember the Fresno game being mentioned as a home game this year by someone in the Athletic Dept. Either way, it is still shaping up to be the best schedule of the Rahe era. :coffee:
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Can play up to 30, 27 plus a tournament (Bahamas is only a 3 game tournament). It seems that Randy usually doesn't schedule more than 29. Assuming his usual 2 non D1 and Fresno at home, that would be it or maybe 1 more.
 
PURPLEFORLIFE said:
Heard that the official 2018-2019 Schedule is due out soon. Guess there are a couple of wrinkles that still needed to be ironed out. What we know now is that Monday conference games are back, and that the Cats have a ho-hum conference slate. I don't necessarily feel that the schedule is bad, but I definitely don't see any advantages with it either. Decent neutral slate for the Cats.

Next, we know that the Cats are playing home games against UVU and the Y. 2 DI games is already a good sign; Fresno is a 2 for 1, which means we could be at their place again or they will be in Ogden. It doesn't mean, automatically like Tal assumes, that Fresno will be visiting Ogden this season. We know we have 4 neutral court games. One vs. Utah State in Salt Lake and the other three are San Jose, Bakersfield, and Central Michigan in the Bahamas. Based off of 10 years of experience, we can also assume on a visit to Ogden from a no name, first time, basketball playing school and a DII.

Lastly, I'm guessing there will be possibly one or maybe two, guarantee games for the Cats; meaning we will travel and get paid to play, a home and home with another DI (Summit or WAC), and if we are really lucky another Pine Bluff type team visiting Ogden. These are all guesses. I'd love another classic of some sort, but...

20 Conference games, 4 neutral, 4 home OOC (not including exhibition), 2/3 road OOC = 30/31 game schedule.
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Normally I don't like to feed the trolls, but in this case, I think you might be right about something you wrote. You can guess.
 
oldrunner said:
I don't expect the schedule to be released until after midweek, and it could go later than that. I also think that there are a few wrinkles to be ironed out. There is also the possibility that We get a home game with USU, along with playing them in SLC. Before the coaching change up north, I think that was the plan. We will see. :coffee:
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I'm sure you meant road game @ USU since I know USU would NOT play in Ogden two years in a row.
 
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