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Dima Zdor

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DeeScott

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Looks like Dima has finally had enough. A couple of transfers is understandable, but five is indicative of a program/coaching problem.

http://www.verbalcommits.com/players/dima-zdor
 
DeeScott said:
Looks like Dima has finally had enough. A couple of transfers is understandable, but five is indicative of a program/coaching problem.

http://www.verbalcommits.com/players/dima-zdor
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Not surprised! Rahe’s offense doesn’t include Bigs so why would he stay? The guy can compete, but his role in this offense is to get rebounds and set ball screens. Not what he signed up for..... saw the same thing with Chapman and Braxton. I thought they should’ve taken grad transfers. Easy to blame it on selfish players, but there needs to be honesty in how coaches sell players on the program. Hopefully Rahe can find Bigs willing to Just get the ball to his guards.
 
This is getting really ridiculous. Dima is out and Rahe signed another transfer guard, 6-2 Isaiah Brown from Northwestern (2 seasons) and GCU. In 30 minutes at GCU he averaged 9 points, 4 rebounds and 2 assists in his one year there shooting 34% from 3. Graduate transfer, so I'm guessing just one year. I guess WSU is going to run 4 guards next year because there is no one else. I'm getting more frustrated by this program by the minute.
 
I know losing transfers is part of the game in college athletics, but this just seems like it is getting out of hand.

Since the 2017-18 offseason, the following players have transferred from Weber:
Trevon Ary-Turner
Riley Court
Spencer Johnson
Alan Lang
Ricky "Doc" Nelson
Jordan Dallas
Caleb Nero
Israel Barnes
Austin Galuppo
Boubacar Diakite
And possibly Judah Jordan
 
WSUGrad2019 said:
I know losing transfers is part of the game in college athletics, but this just seems like it is getting out of hand.

Since the 2017-18 offseason, the following players have transferred from Weber:
Trevon Ary-Turner
Riley Court
Spencer Johnson
Alan Lang
Ricky "Doc" Nelson
Jordan Dallas
Caleb Nero
Israel Barnes
Austin Galuppo
Boubacar Diakite
And possibly Judah Jordan
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Not to mention:
Kiko Stavrev
Mckay Cannon
Richaud Gittens
And Juwan Williams from the previous year.

Also the departure of George Darling and Anton Vialen after one season, which we’re not due to “homesickness” as most people (including the coaches) suggest.
 
The exodus continues!! This one hurts the most! Zdor is lean, and could use a few pounds, but he has great length, good athleticism, and a good motor. He wants to be out there on the court. Unfortunately, Randy and staff didn’t develop him and never gave him the opportunity to get out on the court to progress and obviously Zdor didn’t appreciate it. It took till the last 5 games to give him significant minutes. He had 18 rebounds in one game. What coach doesn’t want that. Apparently not coach Rahe! He sat the bench all season, while we were out rebounded and lacked inside play! Great work!!
 
I'm a little surprised by this transfer. I still had hope that Dima would develop and be a solid player. That leaves us with only Fuller and Kozak next year in the post. Nothing on Judah Jordan yet. Maybe he is sticking around.
 
Xavier, Marquette, Minnesota, Utah, Weber State, NJIT and Cal Baptist have already reached out to former Wichita State center Asbjorn Midtgaard, who entered his name in the transfer portal on Friday. Wichita State has 8 transfers so far this post season, 7 scholarship players and a walk on. This leads the nation in transfers so it would be worse for us.
 
Dima is a good kid, but a terrible big. I mean he did start playing better further into the season, but the kid never thought he was a C, but a SF. Worst of all, he was soft, not a good defender, and always out of position for rebounds. He just looked lost. Worst of all, I swear he had crisco on his hands. He never could grab or hold onto the ball. However, would I rather have Zdor? Yeah, which is not good for the future of the program. That tells us what a bad situation we are in. We just can't develop bigs (DUFT is that coach). Zdor will get DI schools to look at him. Mostly because of his height, not how he played, and the fact that he will sit for a year. Finally he will be able to put on some weight, which he drastically needs to do. Yet, after all is said and done, he will still only be seen as a big, not what he wants a 3; maybe a stretch 4, but with his size, I highly doubt he goes somewhere that can use him as a stretch 4. He will be a 5. He isn't going to a P-6 school. If he does...I'll eat crow. He just isn't that good.

This Spring does give Randy the chance to correct a few really bad recruiting class by finding a bunch of transfers. We will see, along with Brown, 4 more transfers. I'm guessing Randy signs another Grad Transfer, JUCO, and one traditional transfers who have to sit and another automatic hopefully with more than 1 year to play (this is if Brizee earned a grant). If Randy gets another Grad Senior I'm sure Brizee is out of luck again and he will take 2 traditional transfers who have to sit.

WHAT WE HAVE:
SR:
Davis
Kozak
Brown
7-0 Danish kid from WSU (if he signs)
JR:
Porter
2 Traditional Transfers
SOPH:
Fuller
KJ
Jordan
Kupsas
JUCO - Clarence kid from Polk State (if he signs)

FRESH:
Brizee (if he is on a grant)
 
Next season is going to be tough. 6 or 7 new players and we have to replace almost 60% of our offensive output from 19-20 season. I know the coaches are putting together a schedule to guarantee at least 10 wins, but I don’t see how we are going to be better than this season. Let’s face it, the AD isn’t going to fire Rahe, the program can’t afford the buyout. Besides Kozak and Fuller, the returning players look weak at best. I’m not even sure if our best player for next season is even on the roster yet. I don’t know how we got here, but the future doesn’t look great.
 
I agree that Dima has not been that great and looks a little lost at times and gets out of position, but heres the thing! he husted, played hard, and even if he was out of position sometimes he is still a better option than anyone on the roster including Kozak. The kid had 18 rebounds in one game and didn't know what he was doing? He has elite length and significantly more athleticism. Kozak has made huge strides. His first year was atrocious and Randy stuck with him and played him. Never happened with Zdor! How can he expect anything difference if he never see's the floor. Game time is completely different than practice. Fuller has potential just like Zdor did, but if you are a big in this system you better be OK doing the dirty work and watching a bunch of 6'2" guards who don't shoot straight throw up bricks behind the ark all night. And they just signed a couple more who shoot under 34 percent from 3! when will this ever end? if your gonna go small, then pull a Houston Rockets and find all shooters and play your 6'7 guy at center and have him shoot 3's as well.
 
talhadfoursteals said:
Dima is a good kid, but a terrible big. I mean he did start playing better further into the season, but the kid never thought he was a C, but a SF. Worst of all, he was soft, not a good defender, and always out of position for rebounds. He just looked lost. Worst of all, I swear he had crisco on his hands. He never could grab or hold onto the ball. However, would I rather have Zdor? Yeah, which is not good for the future of the program. That tells us what a bad situation we are in. We just can't develop bigs (DUFT is that coach). Zdor will get DI schools to look at him. Mostly because of his height, not how he played, and the fact that he will sit for a year. Finally he will be able to put on some weight, which he drastically needs to do. Yet, after all is said and done, he will still only be seen as a big, not what he wants a 3; maybe a stretch 4, but with his size, I highly doubt he goes somewhere that can use him as a stretch 4. He will be a 5. He isn't going to a P-6 school. If he does...I'll eat crow. He just isn't that good.

This Spring does give Randy the chance to correct a few really bad recruiting class by finding a bunch of transfers. We will see, along with Brown, 4 more transfers. I'm guessing Randy signs another Grad Transfer, JUCO, and one traditional transfers who have to sit and another automatic hopefully with more than 1 year to play (this is if Brizee earned a grant). If Randy gets another Grad Senior I'm sure Brizee is out of luck again and he will take 2 traditional transfers who have to sit.

WHAT WE HAVE:
SR:
Davis
Kozak
Brown
7-0 Danish kid from WSU (if he signs)
JR:
Porter
2 Traditional Transfers
SOPH:
Fuller
KJ
Jordan
Kupsas
JUCO - Clarence kid from Polk State (if he signs)

FRESH:
Brizee (if he is on a grant)
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Clarence Jackson has committed to Wichita State, which means that we are 1 for 3 on The notable juco transfers. And it seems that the 7 footer has more appealing offers than us. I doubt we get him. I just don’t see us getting 6 solid transfers.
 
BigT said:
I agree that Dima has not been that great and looks a little lost at times and gets out of position, but heres the thing! he husted, played hard, and even if he was out of position sometimes he is still a better option than anyone on the roster including Kozak. The kid had 18 rebounds in one game and didn't know what he was doing? He has elite length and significantly more athleticism. Kozak has made huge strides. His first year was atrocious and Randy stuck with him and played him. Never happened with Zdor! How can he expect anything difference if he never see's the floor. Game time is completely different than practice. Fuller has potential just like Zdor did, but if you are a big in this system you better be OK doing the dirty work and watching a bunch of 6'2" guards who don't shoot straight throw up bricks behind the ark all night. And they just signed a couple more who shoot under 34 percent from 3! when will this ever end? if your gonna go small, then pull a Houston Rockets and find all shooters and play your 6'7 guy at center and have him shoot 3's as well.
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I actually thought Kozak’s first year was a lot more productive than Zdor’s. Kozak had an 18 rebound performance this year as well. Zdor definitely has more freak athletic ability but Kozak is more solid despite his lack of development. Both have had their struggles though.
 
Kozak played 30 of 31 games @ 24 minutes a game his first season and averaged 5.5 pts. He shot 30% from 3 and 42% from inside the arch. He was completely horrible on defense. Every team we played isolated him because he couldn’t guard the opposing player.
Zdor played 5 of 28 games @ 5.6 minutes per and averaged 2 points. He has 6 less blocks on the season than Kozak in 5 minutes a game.
As I said previously Kozak was given the necessary time in games to develop! It did not happen with Zdor and I would bet my bank account that is why Zdor is out of here.
I wasn’t trying to compare Zdor and Kozak other than to show what can happen when a player is given game time! I legitimately felt the Kozak was our second most consitent player this previous year after Harding. His defense vastly improved and he had his best year in blocks and steals. I give Kozak props!!! He has improved significantly. He has become a solid player.
Zdor could be in the same position and have improved vastly by having the same opportunity as Kozak. So instead of having 2 good bigs, and 1 big improving(Fuller), we now have a gaping hole in the lineup in the paint.
Ultimately, I feel the staff blew it, when they sat Zdor on the bench instead of getting him game time and developing him! And I would also bet that Kozak would agree with the fact that Zdor needed more time.
 
BigT said:
Kozak played 30 of 31 games @ 24 minutes a game his first season and averaged 5.5 pts. He shot 30% from 3 and 42% from inside the arch. He was completely horrible on defense. Every team we played isolated him because he couldn’t guard the opposing player.
Zdor played 5 of 28 games @ 5.6 minutes per and averaged 2 points. He has 6 less blocks on the season than Kozak in 5 minutes a game.
As I said previously Kozak was given the necessary time in games to develop! It did not happen with Zdor and I would bet my bank account that is why Zdor is out of here.
I wasn’t trying to compare Zdor and Kozak other than to show what can happen when a player is given game time! I legitimately felt the Kozak was our second most consitent player this previous year after Harding. His defense vastly improved and he had his best year in blocks and steals. I give Kozak props!!! He has improved significantly. He has become a solid player.
Zdor could be in the same position and have improved vastly by having the same opportunity as Kozak. So instead of having 2 good bigs, and 1 big improving(Fuller), we now have a gaping hole in the lineup in the paint.
Ultimately, I feel the staff blew it, when they sat Zdor on the bench instead of getting him game time and developing him! And I would also bet that Kozak would agree with the fact that Zdor needed more time.
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Part of the reason (from what I remember reading) is that Zdor did not play as much this year is he was injured. He was healthy at the end of the season which is why he played more. How injured IDK..
 
wsucatfan said:
BigT said:
Kozak played 30 of 31 games @ 24 minutes a game his first season and averaged 5.5 pts. He shot 30% from 3 and 42% from inside the arch. He was completely horrible on defense. Every team we played isolated him because he couldn’t guard the opposing player.
Zdor played 5 of 28 games @ 5.6 minutes per and averaged 2 points. He has 6 less blocks on the season than Kozak in 5 minutes a game.
As I said previously Kozak was given the necessary time in games to develop! It did not happen with Zdor and I would bet my bank account that is why Zdor is out of here.
I wasn’t trying to compare Zdor and Kozak other than to show what can happen when a player is given game time! I legitimately felt the Kozak was our second most consitent player this previous year after Harding. His defense vastly improved and he had his best year in blocks and steals. I give Kozak props!!! He has improved significantly. He has become a solid player.
Zdor could be in the same position and have improved vastly by having the same opportunity as Kozak. So instead of having 2 good bigs, and 1 big improving(Fuller), we now have a gaping hole in the lineup in the paint.
Ultimately, I feel the staff blew it, when they sat Zdor on the bench instead of getting him game time and developing him! And I would also bet that Kozak would agree with the fact that Zdor needed more time.
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Part of the reason (from what I remember reading) is that Zdor did not play as much this year is he was injured. He was healthy at the end of the season which is why he played more. How injured IDK..
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If Zdor wasn’t getting playing time because he was hurt he wouldn’t have decided to transfer. What I’ve heard from players is that Rahe just used injuries as an excuse for a poor season. Harding was the only one dealing with serious nagging injuries and played through them. obviously Kupsas injury was very serious (still a very unproven player though) and Davis injury may have been legit at first but I’ve also heard he faked a lot of pain after he receive the go to play again. Whether what I heard is true or not is just speculation but i think Zdor leaving rules out the excuse that he wasn’t getting playing time because he was hurt.
 
BigWaldO said:
wsucatfan said:
BigT said:
Kozak played 30 of 31 games @ 24 minutes a game his first season and averaged 5.5 pts. He shot 30% from 3 and 42% from inside the arch. He was completely horrible on defense. Every team we played isolated him because he couldn’t guard the opposing player.
Zdor played 5 of 28 games @ 5.6 minutes per and averaged 2 points. He has 6 less blocks on the season than Kozak in 5 minutes a game.
As I said previously Kozak was given the necessary time in games to develop! It did not happen with Zdor and I would bet my bank account that is why Zdor is out of here.
I wasn’t trying to compare Zdor and Kozak other than to show what can happen when a player is given game time! I legitimately felt the Kozak was our second most consitent player this previous year after Harding. His defense vastly improved and he had his best year in blocks and steals. I give Kozak props!!! He has improved significantly. He has become a solid player.
Zdor could be in the same position and have improved vastly by having the same opportunity as Kozak. So instead of having 2 good bigs, and 1 big improving(Fuller), we now have a gaping hole in the lineup in the paint.
Ultimately, I feel the staff blew it, when they sat Zdor on the bench instead of getting him game time and developing him! And I would also bet that Kozak would agree with the fact that Zdor needed more time.
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Part of the reason (from what I remember reading) is that Zdor did not play as much this year is he was injured. He was healthy at the end of the season which is why he played more. How injured IDK..
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If Zdor wasn’t getting playing time because he was hurt he wouldn’t have decided to transfer. What I’ve heard from players is that Rahe just used injuries as an excuse for a poor season. Harding was the only one dealing with serious nagging injuries and played through them. obviously Kupsas injury was very serious (still a very unproven player though) and Davis injury may have been legit at first but I’ve also heard he faked a lot of pain after he receive the go to play again. Whether what I heard is true or not is just speculation but i think Zdor leaving rules out the excuse that he wasn’t getting playing time because he was hurt.
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There were several things going on with Dima during the time that he wasn't playing much, and none of them had anything to do with being in any sort of dog house. He is a great kid who went through some hard times, physically and otherwise. I hope he has great success where ever he lands. He certainly has some good potential and I am sorry to see him go.
 
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