Excitement

[PURPLEFORLIFE]

Wow!! Guess there's not much excitement for Weber State Basketball. Haven't visited in a bit and thought there would be some discussion about last nights game and the upcoming CSU game next Monday. But when I got here, nothing. GHOST TOWN like! :shocking: Pretty good sign that the most committed fans aren't very hopeful.

I went to the game last night. It wasn't the most awe-inspiring performance. I really hope I'm wrong about Duft, but it isn't looking good. He has talent and could win 15 games just on that. I mean, the Big Sky is that bad after all. No matter, I'm not getting my hopes up. I'm worried that in a month this once great program will resemble a pile of dried poo. I'm not one to attach jobs to decisions, but this is on the AD. If this hire goes south, it might be best for the university to bring in new blood, while also finding a new HC.

Okay, what did I see. No change in the offense. Too much Iso, jacking threes, and not enough assists. There is no movement, passing, or cutting. Same issues as the past three or four years. The bigs are raw. Tew did not progress much over the summer. Maybe he needs more time to get back into shape, but here we are with another major issue of the past decade. How are the bigs being developed? They aren't. Rouzan is the bright spot and we all know his moves we acquired before the one post move this staff knows, the baby hook going across the middle. Terrible rebounding, except for jones. Fundamentals are desperately lacking. Defense looks a bit better, but whenever the Cats went to man, Western went on a run and out-performed us. I did appreciate an actual in-bound play. The one bright spot. A win is a win and we can make as many excuses as we want, but fact of the matter, Western is beginning the season too. They also have a lot of new pieces and aren't the best competition. Hope Monday goes better. If Weber is within 20 I'd give them a B for their effort. 15 or below A-/A. YIKES, the bar is really low.

 

[AlumniWSU]

Committed fans ? I lost that status, along with the excitement, optimism, etc. for WSU basketball back in, aah, around 2017. Stubborn HC who stagnated things by staying on too long & not doing much in my opinion to bring back any positive vibes. That thanks to a golden key extension to the job for 8 years from the previous AD. Intentions were sincere & good, I'm sure & that's all water under the bridge now. So be it. :-(

The changeover seems like just the co-pilot taking over for the pilot who' s now enjoying the life of riley somewhere. I don't have negative wishes for Duft & staff. Give him a chance & the newest assistant formerly from MSU looks like a hopeful "new blood" addition. I do wish them success & hope they return Wildcat basketball to the championship level it deserves to be at. As to the current AD, I haven't an educated opinion of. While the inside promotions have valid good intentions, some of the time it leads to stagnation & acceptance of status quo. hno:

Hope the 22-23 Wildcat BB coaches & players have a great, successful year ahead!! Thought some positive vibes from the Washington game results, at least it was just a 17 pt loss instead of a 30 + kick to the curb we were used to under Coach Rahe against P5 majors. Hope you're wrong too, Purpleforlife. Really hope that there's some flexibility & good adjustments shown to fix the weaknesses, improve on the team strengths, & bring back some spark to the BB program! :|

Also liked HC Duft's comments about the games so far...so here's to brighter games ahead for Wildcat Basketball :thumb:

 

[kcoolhand]

Wow!! Guess there's not much excitement for Weber State Basketball. Haven't visited in a bit and thought there would be some discussion about last nights game and the upcoming CSU game next Monday. But when I got here, nothing. GHOST TOWN like! :shocking: Pretty good sign that the most committed fans aren't very hopeful.

I went to the game last night. It wasn't the most awe-inspiring performance. I really hope I'm wrong about Duft, but it isn't looking good. He has talent and could win 15 games just on that. I mean, the Big Sky is that bad after all. No matter, I'm not getting my hopes up. I'm worried that in a month this once great program will resemble a pile of dried poo. I'm not one to attach jobs to decisions, but this is on the AD. If this hire goes south, it might be best for the university to bring in new blood, while also finding a new HC.

Okay, what did I see. No change in the offense. Too much Iso, jacking threes, and not enough assists. There is no movement, passing, or cutting. Same issues as the past three or four years. The bigs are raw. Tew did not progress much over the summer. Maybe he needs more time to get back into shape, but here we are with another major issue of the past decade. How are the bigs being developed? They aren't. Rouzan is the bright spot and we all know his moves we acquired before the one post move this staff knows, the baby hook going across the middle. Terrible rebounding, except for jones. Fundamentals are desperately lacking. Defense looks a bit better, but whenever the Cats went to man, Western went on a run and out-performed us. I did appreciate an actual in-bound play. The one bright spot. A win is a win and we can make as many excuses as we want, but fact of the matter, Western is beginning the season too. They also have a lot of new pieces and aren't the best competition. Hope Monday goes better. If Weber is within 20 I'd give them a B for their effort. 15 or below A-/A. YIKES, the bar is really low.

You said this was not an "awe-inspiring" performance. Well, I'm curious as to what you expect from a team with only 4 returners from last years team [Dyson Kohler due to health issues is not cleared to play until December at the earliest] and only one returning starter. Did you expect a brand new team like this to play at a conference contending level in its first home game of the season???

You said it was "samo-samo-samo" as last year??? I definitely beg to differ here. Was it an "awe-inspiring" performance??? Definitely not!!! Was it the samo-samo-samo from last year??? Again, definitely not!!!

If you think there was no change in the offense from last year, then obviously you didn't watch the same game I did. First of all, this years team is pushing up the tempo a lot more than past years teams including last season's team. In addition, this years version attacks the full court pressure so much better than previous teams. They actually attacked the press making the other team pay for it by getting better fast break opportunities rather than just waiting for the guards to throw it away passing it back & forth in the back-court.

You said they lacked ball movement and just jacked up threes all game. Well, they did take 20 threes & made 8 of them (40%) but in the past most of those threes were forced whereas last night all of them were open threes with nearly all being so wide open due to good ball movement and the extra pass to ensure the shot being open. Nearly 67% of all Weber shots were inside the line (30-59 - 50.8%) including two monster dunks by Alex Tew both of which came because of direct assists by Dillon Jones. Do we need to shoot better on those inside shots??? Yes. We missed way, way too many easy shots inside the paint. But nonetheless not the inaccurate assessment you gave our offensive performance.

You also said there was no movement, passing or cutting. Again, although there were many mistakes made by our offense, a lack of cutting [both with and without the ball] ball and player movement and passing were not among them on such a massive scale as you implied. Perfect, NO!!! But much better than recent teams in the past at this point in the season.

Your assessment of our bigs being raw is reasonably accurate. Tamba is definitely a work in progress, but there was some improvement from the first game until last night's game although he is very, very raw and has some areas where he needs big improvement - especially rebounding and not picking up stupid fouls. You said Tew has not improved since last year. Your assessment on this point is so beyond inaccurate it deserves no response. Alex has improved vastly over last year although he still has some things he does need to work on. Rouzan is possibly the best offensive big we have with good post moves, but our interior defense is definitely better when Tew or Tamba are in there.

I do agree with you that our rebounding has been atrocious. Actually - with the exception of Jones - pathetic!!! We were out rebounded (33-31) by W. Co. which should have simply put never happened. One point saw W Co. get five consecutive offensive rebounds with Tamba in the middle. Duft pulled him out immediately and as he was going to the bench Duft pressed him that he has to get position and never let the other team get so many rebounds.

I have no idea how W. Co. is at adjusting to the new season nor do I give a flying ****. I'm worried about how Weber State is adjusting to the new season nor am I going to predict or specify on how successful our game against Colorado State is based upon how close we are able to keep the game - nor do I think can you accurately make such an insinuation.

Am I drinking too much "Purple Kool-Aid" like so many others have been accused of??? NO, I'm not a follower of Jim Jones. Nor am I ready to predict this team is going to take the Sky or even contend for the title. I believe this team will hustle, work hard and be a very, very fun team to watch. I hope that this prediction of mine does come to pass.

 

[oldrunner]

Guess there's not much excitement

once great program will resemble a pile of dried poo.

No change in the offense. jacking threes, and not enough assists. There is no movement, passing, or cutting.

How are the bigs being developed? They aren't.

Fundamentals are desperately lacking.

YIKES, the bar is really low.

You said this was not an "awe-inspiring" performance. Well, I'm curious as to what you expect from a team with only 4 returners from last years team [Dyson Kohler due to health issues is not cleared to play until December at the earliest] and only one returning starter. Did you expect a brand new team like this to play at a conference contending level in its first home game of the season???

You said it was "samo-samo-samo" as last year??? I definitely beg to differ here. Was it an "awe-inspiring" performance??? Definitely not!!! Was it the samo-samo-samo from last year??? Again, definitely not!!!

If you think there was no change in the offense from last year, then obviously you didn't watch the same game I did. First of all, this years team is pushing up the tempo a lot more than past years teams including last season's team. In addition, this years version attacks the full court pressure so much better than previous teams. They actually attacked the press making the other team pay for it by getting better fast break opportunities rather than just waiting for the guards to throw it away passing it back & forth in the back-court.

You said they lacked ball movement and just jacked up threes all game. Well, they did take 20 threes & made 8 of them (40%) but in the past most of those threes were forced whereas last night all of them were open threes with nearly all being so wide open due to good ball movement and the extra pass to ensure the shot being open. Nearly 67% of all Weber shots were inside the line (30-59 - 50.8%) including two monster dunks by Alex Tew both of which came because of direct assists by Dillon Jones. Do we need to shoot better on those inside shots??? Yes. We missed way, way too many easy shots inside the paint. But nonetheless not the inaccurate assessment you gave our offensive performance.

You also said there was no movement, passing or cutting. Again, although there were many mistakes made by our offense, a lack of cutting [both with and without the ball] ball and player movement and passing were not among them on such a massive scale as you implied. Perfect, NO!!! But much better than recent teams in the past at this point in the season.

Your assessment of our bigs being raw is reasonably accurate. Tamba is definitely a work in progress, but there was some improvement from the first game until last night's game although he is very, very raw and has some areas where he needs big improvement - especially rebounding and not picking up stupid fouls. You said Tew has not improved since last year. Your assessment on this point is so beyond inaccurate it deserves no response. Alex has improved vastly over last year although he still has some things he does need to work on. Rouzan is possibly the best offensive big we have with good post moves, but our interior defense is definitely better when Tew or Tamba are in there.

I do agree with you that our rebounding has been atrocious. Actually - with the exception of Jones - pathetic!!! We were out rebounded (33-31) by W. Co. which should have simply put never happened. One point saw W Co. get five consecutive offensive rebounds with Tamba in the middle. Duft pulled him out immediately and as he was going to the bench Duft pressed him that he has to get position and never let the other team get so many rebounds.

I have no idea how W. Co. is at adjusting to the new season nor do I give a flying ****. I'm worried about how Weber State is adjusting to the new season nor am I going to predict or specify on how successful our game against Colorado State is based upon how close we are able to keep the game - nor do I think can you accurately make such an insinuation.

Am I drinking too much "Purple Kool-Aid" like so many others have been accused of??? NO, I'm not a follower of Jim Jones. Nor am I ready to predict this team is going to take the Sky or even contend for the title. I believe this team will hustle, work hard and be a very, very fun team to watch. I hope that this prediction of mine does come to pass.

Thanks to your response, Coolhand. I held back from responding because I didn't want offend that group of posters who have been parotting this stuff for the past few years now. They have no knowlege of what is happening with our team, but they want to appear as they do. They just spew the same stuff back and forth with oneanother and feel vindicated because someone else will chime in with something similar.

Some of what he said was accurate. There does need to be more buzz and excitement in the community for WSU basketball. This does continue to be a problem. I could start trying to lay blame but why? We simply need to get more student and community butts in seats. Part of this is on the program and I do believe they are putting a more exciting brand of ball on the court.

To the untrained eye, the offensive sets do seem to look similar. They start out the same, a right side handoff, a left side handoff and followed by a high pick and roll. What is happening in that part of the set is reading how the defense is responding. What comes next is based on those readings. There are several options and those options have changed each year, over the past several years, and those options are based on an evaluation of our players strengths and weaknesses. Those options can change week to week as well.

This team is trying to push the tempo every time down the floor. In transition, they want to push it as much as they can and if the D is allowing you to drive it to the rim, then that is what you should do. It is not an iso play at all. It's just early O. As far as jacking up 3s, if a good shooter is open and they don't shoot it, that is where the problem lies. I suppose they could pass it around 10 more times but why? Shooting 40% from 3 is about like shooting 60% from 2s. We have some excellent 3 point shooters and that aspect of the game will just get better as the season goes on.

I've been hearing about this 'Development Problem' and the lack of fundamentals for several years now. It's true that most of our recruits are lacking in development and training in fundamentals. The players coming out of HS with solid fundamentals and polished skills are going to Duke, Kentucky, North Carolina and the like. We are getting players who have the potential to become that, but they are not there yet. We have a reputation for developing players who go on to pro careers. It's why we get some of the high mid major guys. I think it is fair to look at our team and say things like ' I feel they need a lot of work on the fundamentals of rebounding'. To say something like player development and training in the fundamentals of basketball is not happening, is simply showing an ignorance of what is actually happeing. What gets my nighty in a knot is when a poster will make these comments having never seen how a player came into the program, how they have worked with the coaches to develop these skills and fundamentals, or how far they may have come over a summer and fall. If it is something you have no clue about, don't just parot what you have heard from someone else who has no clue.

I find it disgusting for anyone to start calling for someone's head after seeing a couple of days performance. I often wonder how they fared on their first job.

The bar has been set low for Weber this year. We were picked fourth. It may turn out that way, I don't know, but we could be a contender as well. Only time will tell. For now, I just want to enjoy the games.

 

[Chex]

Weber State is a football school now. If the basketball team can throw in a conference title every eight to ten years (which apparently is fine by the AD and University) that’s just gravy on the mashed potatoes.

Honestly, I’m hoping for nothing but the best for the staff and the players. I have absolutely no expectations though. I think with the watered down non-conference schedule, they will probably pull in at .500 or slightly ahead.

When Coach Hill took over the reigns after Jody Sears, he changed the culture immediately and had the team competing in every game despite the fact they were pretty much the same team that was blown out by halftime. I think they went 2-10 in Hill’s first year, but it was max effort entertaining football. Rahe’s last six years was slightly better than watching ball hogs chuck 3s at the local stake center.

I don’t see changing to the co-pilot will fix the malaise that has set in since the golden parachute contract Bovee gave to Rahe. I guess we will find out. I see this very much similar to when USU hired the assistant after Stew retired.

If I get a free ticket, I might go to enjoy the Purple Palace. Otherwise, I won’t waste a dime.

Honestly hope there is something nice for Oldrunner and Kcoolhand to watch. They deserve it if they can keep optimistic during the doldrums that has been Weber State Basketball as of late.

 

[oldrunner]

since the golden parachute contract Bovee gave to Rahe.

I won’t waste a dime.

Like I said.

Won't come to the games, butt hurt because someone got paid more than you, but we should care about how shitty you think we all are. Meh

 

[Chex]

since the golden parachute contract Bovee gave to Rahe.

I won’t waste a dime.

Like I said.

Won't come to the games, butt hurt because someone got paid more than you, but we should care about how shitty you think we all are. Meh

Not butt hurt at all that someone got paid more than me. I don’t define my self-worth or happiness on how much money I make. In fact, I would hate to have a job like Hill or Duft as it would take a lot of time away from family at times and be tough not to take the stress home with you.

Fact is money is tighter now days, and it’s a big deal to try and take the family to a Weber State game. Football has entertainment value that makes it worth it, but basketball hasn’t been there for a while. I hope Duft can be successful and make a believer out of me.

You don’t have to care what I think about the team, but I’m still going to watch games on tv or listen on the radio and comment on them from time to time because I like and cheer for Weber State. I respect all the opinions. I don’t agree with everyone. I’m not going to accuse someone of being butt hurt because I don’t like their opinion, but that’s my style. You do what you have to do.

I wish I had you as a boss because you are loyal and seem to support every coach no matter what. If I see that improvement is not happening, I just state it. I think we would have Hammer as OC with your mentality instead of Mental and be nowhere near 8-2 this year. Honesty about a coach’s performance isn’t an attack on them. It’s really apart the job they signed up for.

Hope Duft and the Wildcats can have a great year and return the program to the previous success it enjoyed. Wish him nothing but the best, just not a believer right now. Colorado State could be a winnable game, they haven’t looked sharp so far.

Seriously hope the diehards like you get a great year!

 

[BigWaldO]

Guess there's not much excitement

once great program will resemble a pile of dried poo.

No change in the offense. jacking threes, and not enough assists. There is no movement, passing, or cutting.

How are the bigs being developed? They aren't.

Fundamentals are desperately lacking.

YIKES, the bar is really low.

You said this was not an "awe-inspiring" performance. Well, I'm curious as to what you expect from a team with only 4 returners from last years team [Dyson Kohler due to health issues is not cleared to play until December at the earliest] and only one returning starter. Did you expect a brand new team like this to play at a conference contending level in its first home game of the season???

You said it was "samo-samo-samo" as last year??? I definitely beg to differ here. Was it an "awe-inspiring" performance??? Definitely not!!! Was it the samo-samo-samo from last year??? Again, definitely not!!!

If you think there was no change in the offense from last year, then obviously you didn't watch the same game I did. First of all, this years team is pushing up the tempo a lot more than past years teams including last season's team. In addition, this years version attacks the full court pressure so much better than previous teams. They actually attacked the press making the other team pay for it by getting better fast break opportunities rather than just waiting for the guards to throw it away passing it back & forth in the back-court.

You said they lacked ball movement and just jacked up threes all game. Well, they did take 20 threes & made 8 of them (40%) but in the past most of those threes were forced whereas last night all of them were open threes with nearly all being so wide open due to good ball movement and the extra pass to ensure the shot being open. Nearly 67% of all Weber shots were inside the line (30-59 - 50.8%) including two monster dunks by Alex Tew both of which came because of direct assists by Dillon Jones. Do we need to shoot better on those inside shots??? Yes. We missed way, way too many easy shots inside the paint. But nonetheless not the inaccurate assessment you gave our offensive performance.

You also said there was no movement, passing or cutting. Again, although there were many mistakes made by our offense, a lack of cutting [both with and without the ball] ball and player movement and passing were not among them on such a massive scale as you implied. Perfect, NO!!! But much better than recent teams in the past at this point in the season.

Your assessment of our bigs being raw is reasonably accurate. Tamba is definitely a work in progress, but there was some improvement from the first game until last night's game although he is very, very raw and has some areas where he needs big improvement - especially rebounding and not picking up stupid fouls. You said Tew has not improved since last year. Your assessment on this point is so beyond inaccurate it deserves no response. Alex has improved vastly over last year although he still has some things he does need to work on. Rouzan is possibly the best offensive big we have with good post moves, but our interior defense is definitely better when Tew or Tamba are in there.

I do agree with you that our rebounding has been atrocious. Actually - with the exception of Jones - pathetic!!! We were out rebounded (33-31) by W. Co. which should have simply put never happened. One point saw W Co. get five consecutive offensive rebounds with Tamba in the middle. Duft pulled him out immediately and as he was going to the bench Duft pressed him that he has to get position and never let the other team get so many rebounds.

I have no idea how W. Co. is at adjusting to the new season nor do I give a flying ****. I'm worried about how Weber State is adjusting to the new season nor am I going to predict or specify on how successful our game against Colorado State is based upon how close we are able to keep the game - nor do I think can you accurately make such an insinuation.

Am I drinking too much "Purple Kool-Aid" like so many others have been accused of??? NO, I'm not a follower of Jim Jones. Nor am I ready to predict this team is going to take the Sky or even contend for the title. I believe this team will hustle, work hard and be a very, very fun team to watch. I hope that this prediction of mine does come to pass.

Thanks to your response, Coolhand. I held back from responding because I didn't want offend that group of posters who have been parotting this stuff for the past few years now. They have no knowlege of what is happening with our team, but they want to appear as they do. They just spew the same stuff back and forth with oneanother and feel vindicated because someone else will chime in with something similar.

Some of what he said was accurate. There does need to be more buzz and excitement in the community for WSU basketball. This does continue to be a problem. I could start trying to lay blame but why? We simply need to get more student and community butts in seats. Part of this is on the program and I do believe they are putting a more exciting brand of ball on the court.

To the untrained eye, the offensive sets do seem to look similar. They start out the same, a right side handoff, a left side handoff and followed by a high pick and roll. What is happening in that part of the set is reading how the defense is responding. What comes next is based on those readings. There are several options and those options have changed each year, over the past several years, and those options are based on an evaluation of our players strengths and weaknesses. Those options can change week to week as well.

This team is trying to push the tempo every time down the floor. In transition, they want to push it as much as they can and if the D is allowing you to drive it to the rim, then that is what you should do. It is not an iso play at all. It's just early O. As far as jacking up 3s, if a good shooter is open and they don't shoot it, that is where the problem lies. I suppose they could pass it around 10 more times but why? Shooting 40% from 3 is about like shooting 60% from 2s. We have some excellent 3 point shooters and that aspect of the game will just get better as the season goes on.

I've been hearing about this 'Development Problem' and the lack of fundamentals for several years now. It's true that most of our recruits are lacking in development and training in fundamentals. The players coming out of HS with solid fundamentals and polished skills are going to Duke, Kentucky, North Carolina and the like. We are getting players who have the potential to become that, but they are not there yet. We have a reputation for developing players who go on to pro careers. It's why we get some of the high mid major guys. I think it is fair to look at our team and say things like ' I feel they need a lot of work on the fundamentals of rebounding'. To say something like player development and training in the fundamentals of basketball is not happening, is simply showing an ignorance of what is actually happeing. What gets my nighty in a knot is when a poster will make these comments having never seen how a player came into the program, how they have worked with the coaches to develop these skills and fundamentals, or how far they may have come over a summer and fall. If it is something you have no clue about, don't just parot what you have heard from someone else who has no clue.

I find it disgusting for anyone to start calling for someone's head after seeing a couple of days performance. I often wonder how they fared on their first job.

The bar has been set low for Weber this year. We were picked fourth. It may turn out that way, I don't know, but we could be a contender as well. Only time will tell. For now, I just want to enjoy the games.

The offense is pretty much the same as the last 3-4 years. Action is initiated differently every time and certain actions are within the offense is called(ie. throwing the ball to the rollup guy and then throwing to the big on a post up after the screen and roll) based on what the coaches call but it’s basically ball screen motion. Watching a team practice for 30 years doesn’t always give complete insight as to what or why things happen.

There are a few things that have changed but the status of the program is still the same. Don’t expect anything to change with Duft as coach. Great guy but he doesn’t have the same presentation as Coach Rahe in terms of motivating his players and is quite frankly arrogant when his basketball knowledge is questioned whether it’s from a player, assistant or outside figure. He isn’t open minded to changes around him.

I’ve said it several times and it’s actually hard to believe the die bards don’t see it too but the player development went out the door when Beckner left and even more when Lever left. Most players now get skill development from outside sources on top of their team stuff. On top of that a lot of players weren’t around in the summer due to coaching changes and all the new players.

I commend the level of dedication to a team and program but if you aren’t humble enough to be open minded to reasons why things aren’t working than it will be the same constant disappointment and the same sorry outcome year in and year out so I ask some of you diehard fans to be open minded and really evaluate without making excuses

 

[n.ogdencat]

I really wanted to see Coach Duft succeed, but I don't think he is the guy for this gig. I love Timmy! He is one of my favorite guys on campus, but I really think he was put in a bad position and forced to hire Coach Duft when Randy retired in May. Its not fair to second guess decisions made in May in December, but Coach Duft should have been an interim guy for this season and proved he was the best option, while Weber did a national search. Honestly, I'm not sure when this team will win again. Wins use to be expected, now they are a surprise. Look how much has changed in just a season. With Rahe, we knew that at the very least the team would fight. But...I did not see that on Saturday. There is talent, but it needs to be developed and used correctly. Coach Duft was two three plays behind all night on Saturday. After Saturdays game, I was totally disheartened. This is a great program and was totally embarrassed by the little brother who has been DI for only 3 seasons. Happy for Utah Tech. Heck of a win. It isn't that they won that worries me, it is how they won. Weber never had a chance. Totally outclassed and coached.

 

[kcoolhand]

I really wanted to see Coach Duft succeed, but I don't think he is the guy for this gig. I love Timmy! He is one of my favorite guys on campus, but I really think he was put in a bad position and forced to hire Coach Duft when Randy retired in May. Its not fair to second guess decisions made in May in December, but Coach Duft should have been an interim guy for this season and proved he was the best option, while Weber did a national search. Honestly, I'm not sure when this team will win again. Wins use to be expected, now they are a surprise. Look how much has changed in just a season. With Rahe, we knew that at the very least the team would fight. But...I did not see that on Saturday. There is talent, but it needs to be developed and used correctly. Coach Duft was two three plays behind all night on Saturday. After Saturdays game, I was totally disheartened. This is a great program and was totally embarrassed by the little brother who has been DI for only 3 seasons. Happy for Utah Tech. Heck of a win. It isn't that they won that worries me, it is how they won. Weber never had a chance. Totally outclassed and coached.

Tad, I loved your post. I too was really hoping Duft would succeed but after witnessing this dumpster fire thus far this season, I believe the time to begin an intense and thorough search for a new head coach has come. Let Duft finish out the year (you seldom get good head coaches from assistants of poor ones and we may end up with one if the interim label is applied to one of the current assistants) and hit the ground running with a plan in place to quickly find a quality coach who can bring this program back to where it should be. :nod: