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Favorite player to hate??

JimmyDfor31

Active member
Ok guys, I know we're all here because we love Weber State, but was there ever a Wildcat baller you couldn't stand the sight of? A guy you thought had no business dripping sweat onto the Dee's floor? A guy so bad or unreliable that you wished he played for Idaho State or some other, lesser, Big Sky foe? I love Weber State basketball but I'm an angry soul, so here's a short list of my most hated WSU players:

Steve Morrison---Remember this guy from the late 90's and early 2000's? He was a pudgy little guy with a shaved head who was from Canada. Come on. Canada. That alone is enough reason to hate him, but he had a penchant for taking bad shots at bad times. Watching him always annoyed me.

Patrick Wrigg---This bruiser played for Weber back when I was in high school. I think he came from some terrible JUCO in Texas, where he averaged something like 3.2 points per game. He was a big slow white dude who seriously couldn't play. They called him "The Big Wrigg." Terrible. To this day, he makes me mildly ashamed to be a 'Cats fan.

Andy Jensen---I actually didn't mind Andy as a player, but I always thought he needed to wear longer socks to spare the world his pasty white legs. I had to choke down my popcorn while watching him play.

Ivan Gatto---There has never been a more frustrating player to watch than Gatto, who was on the team in the early 2000's if I'm not mistaken. One year, in a preseason game, he knocked down 7 or 8 threes, and then hit about half that many over the course of the season. It was a rough year for him, since he broke his nose and lost a few teeth in a game, but I never saw a bigger underachiever in my life. He teased us with his potential and then disappeared. Unacceptable.

John Hamilton---To this day, I think the only reason "Jump-shot Johnny" was on the court at all was because he and Cravens were both from Indiana. Ok, I'll admit, Hammy could shoot, but what else could he do? He was a liability on defense, and rarely good for anything but the occasional three. He also looked like he was half-asleep, even in the middle of a game. Some of the guys I knew used to call him Sloth because of his soporific look. John also had an ugly and annoying tattoo on his arm. I guess he never had a mirror or saw himself on film, because if he did, he would have taken a freaking cheese grater to that thing.

That's all for now. Keep bleeding purple.
 
Is anyone else offended? WTF JimmyDfor3??

How can u dis a member of the 2nd greatest Big Sky team of all-time? WSU 2003 team was legit...BTW, if Stevie didn't sink a buzzer shot at NAU we woulda finished 15-1. Definately the highlight of his career.

2 of the guys you mentioned I've never heard of...

As for Andy and Johnny, well same as Stevie, all on great teams.

Johnny is one of the best 3 pt shooters in WSU history and Big Sky history. I believe WSU to 5 or 10 and Big Sky top 20.

Lets here what talhadfoursteals has to say about this one? Ream? Other players to name?

As for me, I'd have to think about it for a day or so to think of any Ostertag's I didn't like getting in the game...

Danko? Nah...only played one year
Mark Thurig? LOL
Uncle Fester? LOL, but transferred before 2007.
 
So how come it's ok for you to hate guys like Thurig and other big tall white dudes, when I can't have my favorites to hate? I gave reasons. I'm not just looking to hate something. The guys I named honestly bothered me. I'm glad to see we're on the same side, hating certain players. At least I gave some justification.

While we're on the subject, I want to add one more:

Matt Emadi---Anyone remember him? He played for Cravens for three years and probably got 5 minutes of actual playing time. He was a local kid out of Northridge who came with great expectations. Rumor was he could shoot like Larry Bird on Ritalin, but it's hard to make shots when you don't get off the freaking bench. Last I heard, he was playing for a college called Biola, a private Christian school in southern California. Biola is also the name of a disease I contracted while vacationing in Africa last summer. Oh, wait...that was ebola. My mistake. Check the link to see three years of wasted WSU scholarship money.

http://athletics.biola.edu/roster.asp?playerid=33&sport=2&roster=5
 
I definitely think that everyone is entitled to their opinion on this forum, and as fellow fans we need to respect each others opinions. Granted, there are very few players that I loved to hate, who have played for the purple and white... I can't say i necessarily hate any of the players, but there are those who definitely annoyed and irritated me:Those few players, who said bad things about Weber and its fans, along with those players who never quite lived up to their potential. However, I wouldn't want to be scrutinized like a DI athlete tends to be, such pressure at times is just to much for a person to handle, and instead of developing into a great players shrivels under such pressure. I will say, I couldn't stand Coach Cravens. His constant motion offense which lacked imagination and was easily defended, along with his inability to develop talent, were the two things that caused me so much personal heartache. Also, his teams were rarely disciplined and definitely lacked chemistry. He had three or four teams that should have won the BSC, but opposing teams immediately knew how to guard his teams, limiting offensive production, and how to break our defense (Cravens hated zones).
As for players...I'm really not sure???

Ryan Jamma, he was the BSC Freshmen of the Year and then left for a Texas C.C. because coach A hurt his feelings in practice. I don't know what happen, but to make matters worse once he got home he said a bunch of horrible things about Weber State, its students, and the surrounding community...

I know they played for Eastern Washington, but Danny "the parisite" parasue (i can't spell) and Chris Hester... OOOOOHHH I couldn't stand those two dinks.
 
Let's see...
There is Eddie Gill and The Show: Sure they were arguably on the greatest weber team ever, and both played amazing games to lead us past UNC in the NCAA tournament . But if they were so good, why did they not make it to the final four?

David Patten: yeah, i know MVP and all that. Sure he could dunk. But he didn't even win the dunk contest on ESPN. Give me a break!

IF we can put down coaches, i'd like to put down Coach Rahe: His first year he won the big sky but did not go undefeated in conference play!
 
:oops: :oops: Ha ha. Nice reply. I was in a hatin' mood last night and probably shouldn't have started this post. I don't regret what I wrote about the players I mentioned, but this probably isn't the right forum to be ripping down former Wildcats. Still, along those same lines, no one questions a Jazz fan's loyalty when that fan expresses his hatred for Greg Ostertag. The opposite is almost the case, where you can't be Jazz lover without being an Ostertag hater. So this post doesn't make me a traitor. Still, I'll try to keep them more positive. :oops: :oops:
 
pattenjr said:
Let's see...
There is Eddie Gill and The Show: Sure they were arguably on the greatest weber team ever, and both played amazing games to lead us past UNC in the NCAA tournament . But if they were so good, why did they not make it to the final four?

David Patten: yeah, i know MVP and all that. Sure he could dunk. But he didn't even win the dunk contest on ESPN. Give me a break!

IF we can put down coaches, i'd like to put down Coach Rahe: His first year he won the big sky but did not go undefeated in conference play!


How dare you say '99 was the greatest WSU team! They were great, probably performed the greatest when it counted so I guess you could argue they are the best team we've ever had.

Though, I have to go with 1968-69. 15-0 in Big Sky and finished 27-3 which is the single best win/loss record in Big Sky history. 1968-69 also finished ranked #17 in the AP Top 25. Utah Jazz's Phil Johnson was the coach. He has the highest winning % (84%) in Big Sky history and even one of the highest in NCAA history. Too bad he left for the NBA.

We also had 4 players from the 68-69 team get drafted to the NBA - Larry Bergh (69), Justus Thigpen (69), Willie Sojourner (71), Bob Davis (72).

One more item, only 2 teams in the history of the Big Sky have ever gone undefeated, both were WSU - 1969 and 2003.

68-69 can't top 1999 for the post season although they did go as far: 1st round, WSU 75, Seattle 73, 2nd round, Santa Clara 63, WSU 59

Oh ya, and 1968 was the start of The streak...WSU has the record for the most consecutive Big Sky Championships. From 1968-1973, Weber 6 'peated. No other Big Sky team has even 3 'peated, not Nevada, Boise, UM, no one!

Only 9 times has a Big Sky team won back-to-back titles and WSU was 5 of the 9.
 
If we have mutated this thread from most hated players to most loved teams, hell I'm in!!! The 1979-1980 team. Granted, I was only a year old, but what I've heard about this team and seen is amamzing!!! At one point in the season the team had won 17 straight games and finished the season ranked in the AP top 25. They were the reason why the Dee was dubed one of the most challenging venues in college basketball to play.
 
talhadfoursteals said:
If we have mutated this thread from most hated players to most loved teams, hell I'm in!!! The 1979-1980 team. Granted, I was only a year old, but what I've heard about this team and seen is amamzing!!! At one point in the season the team had won 17 straight games and finished the season ranked in the AP top 25. They were the reason why the Dee was dubed one of the most challenging venues in college basketball to play.

YES!!! JimmyD, dont forget out 1980!!

This team averaged 10,500 fans spanning 16 home games!!!! Imagine seeing that!!? 1980 had 4 players go pro:

1980 Bruce Collins Portland Trail Blazers
1980 David Johnson Dallas Mavericks
1980 Richard Smith Philadelphia 76ers
1983 Tom Heywood Golden State Warriors


80 finished 17th ranked in the AP Top 25.

1980 also tied for the highest NCAA Tournament seeding by a WSU team - 7 seed. Though they did lose the first rd game by one point. (10) Lamar 87, (7) WSU 86

We won back-to-back Big Sky titles in 1979 and 1980.

1980 was our last team to finish a season ranked in the top 25. The closest since I believe was our 2003 team which finished just outside the top 25 at 30th. I don't know what 1995 and 1999 finished ranked.
 
I've heard my dad talk about the magical Willie Sojourner before and that 68-69 team. Of course, those guys played way before my time, but it's incredible to see how well some of the older posters on here can remember stuff like that. Good work guys. I can only hope to have a flicker of your Weber State knowledge when I'm your age.
 
I hate to be the one to bring back the original intent of this thread, but here goes.
Mike Pomeroy - the guy had guns for arms, but boxing gloves for hands.
JP Silveda(sp?) - last year the biggest disappointment on the team. I was cringing every time he touched the ball. Most of the time he would turn it over, or take a bad shot.

I will be posting more later as I remember some of those guys.
 
Ha ha @ Mike Pomeroy. I remember seeing him playing for one of those traveling exhibition teams like the "Son's Blue Angels" that travel around and play college teams to raise money for Jesus. I think Jimmy D did that for a while as well. Anyway, Pomeroy was playing for one of those teams some number of years ago, and my dad went off on him, saying he had a terrible temper, liked to fight, fouled like a drunken monkey, etc. Then, he added that Pomeroy converted to Mormonism during his time at Weber and was now really into religion, which led to him playing for the traveling Jesus team. Can anyone verify this, or refute it.

He he he...Pomeroy. He made me ashamed to be a tall white guy. :lol:
 
I think he was converted to "Mormonism", however I am not sure if he is really into religion. He lives in the area, and I can ask some of the younger smjcpa's because they go to school with his kids.
 
I can't dis a single WSU player, I take back my previous dis's even as a joke. Sorry Danko and Uncle Fester and The Thurig-nater!
 
I don't want to go to "Old School" on you, but Billy Fife had to be the biggest waste of space to ever play for the Wildcats. Billy was a player here during the Denny Houston Era. Also Joey Haws pretty well sucked it up. Also Danko would have to be on the list, and of course Ivan Gatto. Some of these guys should have not even been playing church ball.
 
Hey AJ remind me of Billy Fife.. I was pretty young during the Denny Houston era, and I can't really remember. Was he the guy that airballed the layup when he finally got some playing time?
 
ajwildcat said:
I don't want to go to "Old School" on you, but Billy Fife had to be the biggest waste of space to ever play for the Wildcats. Billy was a player here during the Denny Houston Era. Also Joey Haws pretty well sucked it up. Also Danko would have to be on the list, and of course Ivan Gatto. Some of these guys should have not even been playing church ball.

Come on, AJ, The fifester was an allstar - did you forget?!?! :mrgreen:
 
ajwildcat said:
I don't want to go to "Old School" on you, but Billy Fife had to be the biggest waste of space to ever play for the Wildcats. Billy was a player here during the Denny Houston Era. Also Joey Haws pretty well sucked it up. Also Danko would have to be on the list, and of course Ivan Gatto. Some of these guys should have not even been playing church ball.

AJ,

You cant dis Haws, I see him at our bball games! So he is a good fan...
 

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