Fire Bovee

[WSUWildcat]

If a 2-9 head coach is worth retaining, maybe we need to make changes higher up the food chain.

 

[CatBacker13]

While there is a sizable group who believe Sears should not have been retained, I don't believe the case is large enough against Bovee (yet) for him to be fired. However, should the Sears experiment continue to produce small potatoes, then the argument could become legitimate. Usually an AD has to be dropping the ball in several areas to get the boot, but several major mistakes within your primary money-maker is a pretty sizable offense...

 

[ajwildcat]

While there is a sizable group who believe Sears should not have been retained, I don't believe the case is large enough against Bovee (yet) for him to be fired. However, should the Sears experiment continue to produce small potatoes, then the argument could become legitimate. Usually an AD has to be dropping the ball in several areas to get the boot, but several major mistakes within your primary money-maker is a pretty sizable offense...

Im sorry but Bovee HAS to be held responsible for driving the football program back into the ground. What a total joke. :wall: :wall: :wall:

 

[CatBacker13]

While there is a sizable group who believe Sears should not have been retained, I don't believe the case is large enough against Bovee (yet) for him to be fired. However, should the Sears experiment continue to produce small potatoes, then the argument could become legitimate. Usually an AD has to be dropping the ball in several areas to get the boot, but several major mistakes within your primary money-maker is a pretty sizable offense...

Im sorry but Bovee HAS to be held responsible for driving the football program back into the ground. What a total joke. :wall: :wall: :wall:

I agree 100%. My only point was that, realistically, there is not enough grounds YET for Bovee to be fired, at least from a president's standpoint.

 

[WSUWildcat]

While there is a sizable group who believe Sears should not have been retained, I don't believe the case is large enough against Bovee (yet) for him to be fired. However, should the Sears experiment continue to produce small potatoes, then the argument could become legitimate. Usually an AD has to be dropping the ball in several areas to get the boot, but several major mistakes within your primary money-maker is a pretty sizable offense...

Im sorry but Bovee HAS to be held responsible for driving the football program back into the ground. What a total joke. :wall: :wall: :wall:

I agree 100%. My only point was that, realistically, there is not enough grounds YET for Bovee to be fired, at least from a president's standpoint.

At least until it becomes a financial concern. Which it may soon become if Sears doesn't turn it around.

 

[SWeberCat02]

Usually an AD has to be dropping the ball in several areas to get the boot, but several major mistakes within your primary money-maker is a pretty sizable offense...

Let me start the list of Bovee's screwups (feel free to add to it):

DESTROYED THE FOOTBALL PROGRAM
Hired a lady's ball coach with no HC experience who goes on to win like no games and gave her a fat contract
DESTROYED THE FOOTBALL PROGRAM
Most sports programs are bad or mediocre
DESTROYED THE FOOTBALL PROGRAM
Chose a very unpopular logo
DESTROYED THE FOOTBALL PROGRAM
Keeps raising ticket prices
DESTROYED THE FOOTBALL PROGRAM
Terrible radio contract
DESTROYED THE FOOTBALL PROGRAM
Marketing still sucks
DESTROYED THE FOOTBALL PROGRAM
Let the post season bball tourneys walk all over him
DESTROYED THE FOOTBALL PROGRAM

 

[weberwildcat]

the bovee era has been some of the best years in wsu athletics ever or at least in many years. my thoughts which no one has to agree with is to be patient and see what happens. there is zero chance of bovee being fired and to think it could happen is very unrealistic any time soon. minus a single season football meltdown after John L quit which wasn't the AD's fault a lot of good things have been happening at weber under his watch. i do not think we have taken a step back....well thats not true, you cant replace a mac no matter what.

think about all the facility upgrades in all sports at wsu that have happened since mac and rahe have been hired. all this is happening under bovee. also rahe is still here after 7 years. his pay is more than 3 times cravens. i dont think stuff like this just magically happens.

everyone has to agree though that if people are really mad at bovee or john L or sears thats a good sign because football at wsu prior to the mac era had a lot less people caring. a 2-9 season before '05 was a tad below average.

once the indoor facility is complete and the north endzone plaza we should be in good shape to weather through a mediocre head coach in football and stay competitive in the big sky. mac did a lot for us for the future and im a bovee supporter.

what was bovee supposed to do after john L quit during spring practice? go get saban to leave bama? have no head coach? i dont think a lot of people are looking for new jobs during spring practice. if john L had stayed would have have goon 11-0?

personally i would have rather had a new coach for next yr and start from scratch after the john L nonsense but the only thing i can do is trust the administration. i have never met or seen sears; hopefully he is a good hire for us.

im optimistic about weber state and athletics for the future at this point. of course if we go 2-9 for the next three seasons then resurrect this thread and ask if my opinion has changed. if the football program can't recover from one 2-9 season then it wasn't much of a program that we thought it was.

 

[CatBacker13]

Usually an AD has to be dropping the ball in several areas to get the boot, but several major mistakes within your primary money-maker is a pretty sizable offense...

Let me start the list of Bovee's screwups (feel free to add to it):

DESTROYED THE FOOTBALL PROGRAM
Hired a lady's ball coach with no HC experience who goes on to win like no games and gave her a fat contract
DESTROYED THE FOOTBALL PROGRAM
Most sports programs are bad or mediocre
DESTROYED THE FOOTBALL PROGRAM
Chose a very unpopular logo
DESTROYED THE FOOTBALL PROGRAM
Keeps raising ticket prices
DESTROYED THE FOOTBALL PROGRAM
Terrible radio contract
DESTROYED THE FOOTBALL PROGRAM
Marketing still sucks
DESTROYED THE FOOTBALL PROGRAM
Let the post season bball tourneys walk all over him
DESTROYED THE FOOTBALL PROGRAM

Noted. Good points.

 

[PurpleBlood]

If Bovee left the program it would be as big of a blow as Mac leaving. Of course he is not perfect, but I promise no athletic director would care and work as hard as he does. Look at the new turf, the stadium improvements, the billboards all over town, the tail gates, the smoke, the band, football Friday's, huge attendance increases etc.. etc.. etc.. Just as much can be said for basketball!

I would imagine its not easy being an athletic director, especially at a school like Weber without a huge budget. One thing I like about Bovee is he is always looking for ways to get better and improve things. I'm no expert on the subject, but I would guess most school have had a few athletic directors in their history that don't really give a darn.

I can absolutely understand the questioning of keeping coach Sears on. However, its not all about winning conferences championships (I wish Mac would have realized that). Its about running a program the right way, being competitive and recruiting the right athletes. When you do that, eventually the ball will bounce your way and things will move forward.

I feel like things have moved forward under Bovee. He knows coach Sears better than any of us and if he believes in him, so do I.

Go Cats!

 

[oldrunner]

Randy Rahe has said that he is 100% behind coach Sears. He said that Jody runs a disiplined program and holds the players responsible for their actions. That alone is enough for me to feel really comfortable with Sears as our new coach. He has the right approach for the long run. If there are players who want to quit because they can't abide the disiplin and responsibility, then they should not stick around. We only need people in our program who can help build us up. :thumb:

 

[WILDCAT]

I have nothing against Bovee, I have liked what he has done here at Weber and will continue to support him and Coach Rahe and COACH Sears.


WE ARE WILDCAT NATION, WE ARE WEBER STATE :rockon:

 

[Waldo2]

I think Bovee has overall done a good job. I agree with many of the comments already listed that he does a very good job with the limited resources he has to work with. Many things are better now than they were before he became AD. Changing the HC of women's basketball was the right thing to do and I love the changes in the pre-game atmosphere at football games. Facilities upgrades are going well. Overall, Bovee is doing a good job.

My main criticism of Bovee is how he handled the post-season basketball tournament last year. Weber was on the bottom story of a two story outhouse in that deal and Bovee should have had more of a backbone at that time.

The Sears hire is a tough one - My initial reaction was negative because the team really underachieved (IMO). A 2-9 record is terrible no matter how you slice it. Certainly, the team was dealt a bad hand with a change in coaches, but Sears took over the team several months before the season started and knew the players, the system, etc. Thus, he was not coming into this blind. This team should have won at least 5-6 games this year. They should have beat UC Davis, Suck State, Montana (rape capital), and UNC. So, I think this team underachieved and could have won more. My final analysis is that the Sears hire is controversial at best. Perhaps it was the best we could do under the circumstances. If the football team continues to struggle the next few years, then Sears should go and Bovee's leadership abilities will be in serious question.

I say keep Bovee- he is moving things forward and in the right direction. But, he does need to show more back bone occasionally.

 

[weberwildcat]

We should consider firing the alumni and fans for not backing Weber and its AD and programs in a way to move them forward. We shouldn't have a shoe string budget.

We are lucky to even have a team which Ogden doesn't deserve.

 

[weberwildcat]

Denver to leave WAC after 1 season.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/21145080/sources-denver-leaving-wac-for-the-summit-next-year" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

LOL

remember when people were mad bovee wasn't helping us move up to the WAC?

 

[WILDCAT]

The Wac is done what happens to Seattle, UVU, Cal St Bakersfield and NMSU now?

 

[sasquatch]

The Wac is done what happens to Seattle, UVU, Cal St Bakersfield and NMSU now?

Oh you didn't hear? The WAC has scored a major coup by convincing the Grand Canyon Antelopes to move up!

http://www.gculopes.com/news/2012/11/27/GEN_1127120516.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Wish I was joking.

My guess is they try to go after Texas- Pan American and Houston Baptist next. Maybe go after another D2 to move up as well. (?)

 

[flylikeasparrow]

The Wac is done what happens to Seattle, UVU, Cal St Bakersfield and NMSU now?

Oh you didn't hear? The WAC has scored a major coup by convincing the Grand Canyon Antelopes to move up!

http://www.gculopes.com/news/2012/11/27/GEN_1127120516.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Wish I was joking.

My guess is they try to go after Texas- Pan American and Houston Baptist next. Maybe go after another D2 to move up as well. (?)

That article doesn't know what they are talking about. The University of Idaho is no longer a member of the WAC that year.

 

[sasquatch]

The Wac is done what happens to Seattle, UVU, Cal St Bakersfield and NMSU now?

Oh you didn't hear? The WAC has scored a major coup by convincing the Grand Canyon Antelopes to move up!

http://www.gculopes.com/news/2012/11/27/GEN_1127120516.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Wish I was joking.

My guess is they try to go after Texas- Pan American and Houston Baptist next. Maybe go after another D2 to move up as well. (?)

That article doesn't know what they are talking about. The University of Idaho is no longer a member of the WAC that year.

Not sure what you're referring to, but Idaho will be in the WAC for the 2013-14 season. They won't return to the Big Sky until July of 2014.

http://www.bigskyconf.com/news/2012/10/19/GEN_1019120821.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;