Fresno

[weberwildcat]

i know nothing about fresno other than they are 9-2. i only wanted to check 1 stat after wazzu/usu/byu, can they shoot the 3?

3P%: .305; 286th
5.8-19 per game
64-210 on the season, 11 games

PPG: 67.8; 297th
RPG: 34.5; 299th
APG: 12.5; 273rd

Points allowed: 56.0

FG%: .450; 148th
FGA: 53.4

 

[Chex]

Another 15-20 point beat down is my prediction. Same story looks like will be playing out for conference play as usual, finish 3-4th place, and an early exit in tournament due to eight man rotation and five players averaging 38 minutes.

Read the quotes in the Standard. I expected the usual stuff from Rahe about sucking it up and getting ready for conference play (another way of saying you don’t care about in state games or expect to win them). The sad thing is the players saying that these teams are really good teams and we competed with them (for small stretches). Basically feeling good about getting stomped on the team’s home court.

These teams are both same level teams in NCAA, there is no reason a player shouldn’t believe they are just as good if not better. This is a losing mentality that Rahe has built in. Teams don’t win conference tournaments with this mentality. So much for the expect to win, concede nothing, fight for every inch mentality. We competed at small stretches with a team we feel is way better than us??? Wonder why attendance is down and fans don’t give a crap anymore? No way I would spend money to support this.

 

[Brick3’s]

Another 15-20 point beat down is my prediction. Same story looks like will be playing out for conference play as usual, finish 3-4th place, and an early exit in tournament due to eight man rotation and five players averaging 38 minutes.

Read the quotes in the Standard. I expected the usual stuff from Rahe about sucking it up and getting ready for conference play (another way of saying you don’t care about in state games or expect to win them). The sad thing is the players saying that these teams are really good teams and we competed with them (for small stretches). Basically feeling good about getting stomped on the team’s home court.

These teams are both same level teams in NCAA, there is no reason a player shouldn’t believe they are just as good if not better. This is a losing mentality that Rahe has built in. Teams don’t win conference tournaments with this mentality. So much for the expect to win, concede nothing, fight for every inch mentality. We competed at small stretches with a team we feel is way better than us??? Wonder why attendance is down and fans don’t give a crap anymore? No way I would spend money to support this.

Tired of the conference games are all that matters philosophy. Winning is contagious! If we go into Conference losing games, losing will become contagious too! Bottom line, we need to inject some life into this program! I think it’s time for a change.

 

[sacstateman]

Fresno St. has played a weak schedule so far.....You guys should have a great shot at beating them....They have a good big man in Robinson that you will have to keep under control, Ballard is coming back off injury and could give them a lift from 3pt arc but they aren't overly good anywhere else on the floor.......I predict you win by about 5 or 6.....

 

[Chex]

Fresno St. has played a weak schedule so far.....You guys should have a great shot at beating them....They have a good big man in Robinson that you will have to keep under control, Ballard is coming back off injury and could give them a lift from 3pt arc but they aren't overly good anywhere else on the floor.......I predict you win by about 5 or 6.....

:lol: Nice of you to say…but reality is this team is looking worse as time goes on.


If there is any doubt Rahe doesn’t care about these games, look no further than the fact he didn’t call one timeout as Fresno State built a 24 point lead in the first half.

 

[sacstateman]

Guess I was wrong about the winner but I was right about Robinson and Ballard....Your guy Jones has some great hands....if he touches a rebound it is his....

 

[Brick3’s]

Guess I was wrong about the winner but I was right about Robinson and Ballard....Your guy Jones has some great hands....if he touches a rebound it is his....

On paper, I thought this was going to be the best Weber State team in years. Talk about being wrong! What’s wrong with this team? The talent level is high, but results are abysmal. Our wins are against weaker competition. I can’t wait for the day that we no longer schedule NAIA schools. It’s time to admit that something isn’t right at Weber.

 

[Chex]

Guess I was wrong about the winner but I was right about Robinson and Ballard....Your guy Jones has some great hands....if he touches a rebound it is his....

On paper, I thought this was going to be the best Weber State team in years. Talk about being wrong! What’s wrong with this team? The talent level is high, but results are abysmal. Our wins are against weaker competition. I can’t wait for the day that we no longer schedule NAIA schools. It’s time to admit that something isn’t right at Weber.

There are games that come along once in long while where you know the betting line is way off, and you could put the mortgage on the line. This was one of those games…Weber favored by 1???

Weber State gets their brains stomped in by USU and BYU, and you have players giving quotes about how much better these teams are and proud of the fact that they hung with them. No way they beat a 9-3 Fresno State Team from a higher conference. Rahe probably gave a pregame surrender talk to the team in the locker room that only reinforced this and definitely sealed it off when he didn’t bother to call a timeout in the first half.

With how good Weber State looked in the first eight games, it’s tough to think they could get flat out embarrassed by these teams at home. Part of me almost would be checking account transactions to see if there was point shaving going on, but the other part realizes how important coaching and adjustments are when talent is greater and equal and not surprised at all. When a coach doesn’t expect to win a game, the players pick up on it.

Really, I can’t believe how a coach could not call timeout and hang his team out to dry like that. Two more years on the contract to ride out I guess, but fans paid good money and deserve to see an effort to win a game or keep it competitive by a coach.

I think the Wildcats are a 3-4 place Big Sky team. Games aren’t won on paper, and this can only be a big downer rolling into the conference. The rebounding is a huge weakness, and the shooting is way off as of late.

 

[oldrunner]

Guess I was wrong about the winner but I was right about Robinson and Ballard....Your guy Jones has some great hands....if he touches a rebound it is his....

The talent level is high, but results are abysmal.

Not so. Yes, the talent level is higher than it has been for the past several years, but our post players are nowhere near the talent we have faced in our four loses. Being forced to double down on the other team's post players is going to leave open shots on the outside. We were counting on them not being so hot from the three point line. It didn't work out for us. If there is one area where we really need to improve, if we want to compete at that level, it's getting the true D1 talent at those post positions. We need someone like DJ who is 5 inches taller. Tew is going to develop, but we need more, obviously. We did everything we could to stop Robinson and still couldn't get the job done. We left normally cold shooters open and they got hot.

To our credit, we played them evan in the second half. That may well be the best defensive team we play all year.

 

[Chex]

Playing teams competitive for the second half or for smaller stretches isn’t bringing in crowds…2,631 for a MWC opponent today.

It’s really nothing to hang your hat on either. Some teams are not interested in pushing a pace up 25 points or more and possibly risking injuries and are more than happy to trade off baskets.

I miss the Abegglen days. No ahh shucks I hope we can give them a game mentality with him. If his teams had even two bad trips down the floor, he’d stomp his feet, call a timeout, and light a fire under his team, and he definitely wouldn’t be looking for moral victories in a 26 point loss.

Might have to get more sponsors if attendance keeps dropping…might need to do low-T ads or something.

 

[baller]

IT'S THE COACHING SILLY! We have enough talent to compete with the likes of the 4 teams we lost two recently. I am not saying we should be expected to win them but that we should have made them closer games and maybe won one or two of the four. We have played the same way all four games and let even bad 3 point shooting teams shoot extreme percentages. No changes, no adjustments. We look pretty lost and weak in these games. But the Big Sky drops down a notch in talent and we will compete at that level. Heck, we know Rahe is nowhere the best coach in the league, so most likely we will take the best talent in the league and turn it into a 3rd or 4th place in the league. As others have said, I personally expect so much more and it is getting harder and harder to support Rahe's teams.

 

[Brick3’s]

IT'S THE COACHING SILLY! We have enough talent to compete with the likes of the 4 teams we lost two recently. I am not saying we should be expected to win them but that we should have made them closer games and maybe won one or two of the four. We have played the same way all four games and let even bad 3 point shooting teams shoot extreme percentages. No changes, no adjustments. We look pretty lost and weak in these games. But the Big Sky drops down a notch in talent and we will compete at that level. Heck, we know Rahe is nowhere the best coach in the league, so most likely we will take the best talent in the league and turn it into a 3rd or 4th place in the league. As others have said, I personally expect so much more and it is getting harder and harder to support Rahe's teams.

I can see the future! We’ll compete for the regular season title, push to the semi’s or final in the tourney and Rahe will get a contract extension. In the next 2-3 seasons we’ll make an NCAA appearance, Rahe will retire as the greatest Coach in Big Sky history and Duft will bridge us to a new coach! It takes a special talent to recruit players to make up one of our strongest teams on paper ever…… only to turn it into a mediocre team. I think what they’re doing to Carlson, Bassey and Kozak is criminal. How do they get worse over their career not better! Remember, we don’t need a position coach for our bigs! We just need better players! Merry Christmas!

 

[DeeScott]

McEwen was good at USU and Marquette but has noticeably declined at Weber. Overton was excellent at UVU and is struggling at Weber. On the flip side, Tim Fuller is starting at UVU although RR was going to pull his scholly. I could go on, but my point is that RR is a coach who sucks the joy out of hoops for his guys and that's why so many transfer, and the ones who stay are not performing at the level they are capable of. The three bad losses to USU, BYU, and Fresno tell the truth of the state of this program. Losing to these teams was likely, but the way it happened indicates there is no one at the helm who inspires these guys to play together and compete.