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Future Big Sky Schedules

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DrMike

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the Big Sky schedules for 2012-2015 were released today:

http://www.bigskyconf.com/news/2011/4/28/FB_0428110957.aspx

interesting approach. each team has two 'rivals' (davis, sac and poly are the 3 rivals, which is cool). 8 conference games, but, the option to schedule other conference teams as 'non-conference' opponents. this is such a big, big deal for Davis to have 8 conference games, instead of 4. the causeway is always the final game, with the poly-davis, and poly-sac games floating (for example, Davis opens with Poly in 2012) having the 2 rivals retained is great. the future of the Big Sky looks pretty solid.

plan your travel now! well, at least across the causeway every other year.
 
I am too!!!! And whats great is that everyone gets a rivalry game at home every year!
I am also glad that this solidifies Causeway as our final game of the year. It should have always been!
 
It should be sell-outs for all involved. Sac State usually averages 15-17K for CP and davis. Getting both the same year at home, plus the homecoming game, should drive our attendance way up.

We do have an open date late in the year. I am not a fan of playing a FBS that late in BS conference matchup play. My only gripe.
 
I like the schedules...agree that it should help with attendance and provide the ability to possibly schedule two early FBS road games each year. The FBS games and increased attendance would help with budgets each year. Would be nice to see us keep a Pac-12 game, then WAC and follow that up with a non-conference FCS team...go into league play and keep that late open date as a yearly BYE to allow for recovery going into playoffs....Did I say playoffs :thumb:
 
Green Cookie Monster said:
It should be sell-outs for all involved. Sac State usually averages 15-17K for CP and davis. Getting both the same year at home, plus the homecoming game, should drive our attendance way up.

We do have an open date late in the year. I am not a fan of playing a FBS that late in BS conference matchup play. My only gripe.
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Each team will have one rivalry game at home each year, not two.
 
SactoHornetAlum said:
Green Cookie Monster said:
It should be sell-outs for all involved. Sac State usually averages 15-17K for CP and davis. Getting both the same year at home, plus the homecoming game, should drive our attendance way up.

We do have an open date late in the year. I am not a fan of playing a FBS that late in BS conference matchup play. My only gripe.
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Each team will have one rivalry game at home each year, not two.
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In our case this will guarantee a high attendance game every year. With CP and them alternating as a home game every season, the 15k+ attendance game every season will be a nice boost to the coffers. Hopefully this will be enough to avoid us having to schedule 2 FBS games.
 
I know that out west, our FBS options are rather limited. It's not like the folk back east who can schedule a MAC, C-USA, or Sun Belt team to get FBS credit without having to deal with a B(C)$ blowout.

But we're not COMPLETELY hog-tied. We have SJSU right in our own back yard, and Davis showed not too long ago that they can be played rather closely. The WAC for the time being, as the lemmings are dropping off, might well be easy pickings, especially if we catch TX State/UTSA early on.

Anyone have any opinions on that? Heck, if we ask nicely soon enough, we might be able to get a home-and-home out of TX State. Sneaky way to get an FBS at home and increase the odds of a win. Hopefully, the FBS label would be enough to get SOME extra butts in the seats.
 
For my money, I think we have way too many teams in the conference.
The Big 12 has that problem, and not every team plays each other every year. In some years some teams have if soft while others have a rough schedule. So who is the best team, the no loss team with the soft schedule or the two loss team with the rough schedule? The Big 12 teams harp on that point every year.
MD
 
Certainly great for Sac State to at last have Davis and Cal Poly in the same conference at least in one sport.
One proven rivarly game in Davis and another rivalry potential on the horizon in CP. All these years it seems that Sac has not really had a BSC rival. The two other California schools will bring the type of interest not found with any of the existing BSC schools.
 
mark dyba said:
For my money, I think we have way too many teams in the conference.
The Big 12 has that problem, and not every team plays each other every year. In some years some teams have if soft while others have a rough schedule. So who is the best team, the no loss team with the soft schedule or the two loss team with the rough schedule? The Big 12 teams harp on that point every year.
MD
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Its the same for the ACC, C-USA, MAC and now Pac 12 and Big 10(12). The conference championship game seems to be a big payout for the FBS guys, something we don't get here in the FCS. The Big 12 was a bit different from the other 12+ team conferences in that they had some huge egos butting heads. Texas wanted bigger profits for itself, Nebraska was never happy to be second fiddle to Texas, the BXII north was far weaker than the BXII south... there were all sorts of internal conflict in that conference that caused all sorts of problems. The fact is, it was hastily thrown together when the old Southwest conference met its demise, and was never embraced by its members.

The Big Sky has its own problems, but I think the larger conference helps us out in the end. It will help relieve some of our travel burden as we won't have to travel to Montana or North Dakota every year. The Cali schools and Southern Utah bring the conference closer to home, and create more natural rivalries. I would have loved for Poly and Davis to be full members, but we'll have to be happy with football-only for now. Its my hope the Big Sky adds Humboldt State or CSU Bakersfield so we have a closer rival and travel partner for our other sports.

I also doubt the new huge Big Sky is permanent. Either (A) some of the schools will be FBS-bound someday soon, or (B) the conference could split.

A: Montana, Montana State, Portland State, Poly, Davis and us have all been mentioned as FBS/WAC bait. If the WAC survives, the next round of expansion will probably come through the Big Sky.

B: Yes, the size can be a problem. However, I can see the conference splitting north/south if it proves to be a major problem. The northern conference would be made up of Montana, Montana State, Idaho State, Eastern Washington, Portland State, Northern Colorado and North Dakota while the new southwestern conference would be made up of Sac State, Weber State, Southern Utah, Northern Arizona and Poly and Davis as football-only. Then both conferences could add a few more DII schools to become a little bigger/stable. Perhaps a crazy pipe-dream, but I could see it happening.
 
I hope we always keep Montana on our schedule. As sac improves they will become a Big crowd game. Adding Davis and Cal poly will also add to the our crowd. Southern Utah never has and never will excite the locals, same goes for Portland and EW. Those guys don't draw flies. Montana and Montana state have a large alumi living in the area and they are loyal to their teams. We must keep them on our yearly schedule. Weber is becoming a rival. It's developed into a ' hate each other game' and will soon fill the stands.
Just my 2 cents worth.
MD
 
I really like the scheduling. Not sure how much of a real rivalry some of the other BSC teams have with their prescribed pair of rivals, but Sac, Davis, and CP are a true natural fit for each other. Good to see that each year has CP on the schedule and Davis as the last game. Go Sac!
 
Last season Northern Colorado drew the largest crowd of 9,000 and Montana State the smallest at 6,300. Both Eastern Oregon and Portlan State drew 7,800 and Weber State drew 6,900. Glad to see most of the home games being moved back to 6 p.m. starts.
 
josephpoint said:
Last season Northern Colorado drew the largest crowd of 9,000 and Montana State the smallest at 6,300. Both Eastern Oregon and Portlan State drew 7,800 and Weber State drew 6,900. Glad to see most of the home games being moved back to 6 p.m. starts.
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UNC was the Homecoming game, hence why it was 9K.
 
I like the future schedules and the fact that the UCFE game will be the last game of the season.

FYI - Guys over on the WSU board are saying Sac will be lucky to win 2 of the first 7 games next season. This coming from fans of a team that lost to Sac last season and has 17 starters returning. I dislike WSU almost as much as UCFE and UM.
 
StungAlum2 said:
I like the future schedules and the fact that the UCFE game will be the last game of the season.

FYI - Guys over on the WSU board are saying Sac will be lucky to win 2 of the first 7 games next season. This coming from fans of a team that lost to Sac last season and has 17 starters returning. I dislike WSU almost as much as UCFE and UM.
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Its not like I said it out of hatred or anything like that, I just say it as I see it, this is what I wrote.

Sacramento State has the toughest schedule, I can see them going 0-7 to start the season, they play 5 of thier first 7 on the road and thier 2 home games in that stretch are no cakewalks.

@ Oregon State
@ Southern Utah
@ Weber State
Montana
@ Montana State
@ Northern Colorado
Eastern Washington


Of course with our schedule I can see us starting 0-5, our only home game is Sac in that stretch.
An interesting tidbit is that the Defending National Champions Eastern Washingon only has 4 home games
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I never said they would be "Lucky" to win 2 games, only that it is likely they could start 0-7 and with a schedule like that can you blame me? If Weber had that same schedule I would say the same exact thing. I didnt say it to spite Sacramento State, I said it because everyone of those games would be extremely difficult for anybody to win, the Weber poster that posted after me said Sac was too good to lose all those games, so nobody on the Weber forum is really trashing Sacramento State
 
Here is my honest prediction for WSU in 2011:

Sat, Sep 03 at Wyoming at Laramie, WY 7PM loss

Sat, Sep 10 at Utah State at Logan, UT 6PM loss

Sat, Sep 17 Sacramento State * Ogden, UT 6PM loss

Sat, Sep 24 at Northern Colorado * at Greeley, CO 1:30PM win

Sat, Oct 01 at Eastern Washington * at Cheney, WA 1:30PM loss

Sat, Oct 15 Idaho State * Ogden, UT 4PM win

Sat, Oct 22 Southern Utah Ogden, UT 4PM loss

Sat, Oct 29 at Montana * at Missoula, MT 1PM loss

Sat, Nov 05 Montana State * Ogden, UT 1:30PM loss

Sat, Nov 12 Northern Arizona * Ogden, UT 1:30PM loss

Sat, Nov 19 at Portland State * at Portland, OR TBA win

3-8 for WSU in 2011
 
What do you have to back that up, GCM? I didn't think Weber was losing that much. I see them in a four-way battle with UM, EWU, and us for the league title. In any event, I don't think there's any way in heck they lose to SUU, and those FBS games are winnable as well. Now, they're not guaranteed wins like a Sun Belt game would be. But Weber is going to be no pushover, IMO.
 
Super Hornet said:
What do you have to back that up, GCM? I didn't think Weber was losing that much. I see them in a four-way battle with UM, EWU, and us for the league title. In any event, I don't think there's any way in heck they lose to SUU, and those FBS games are winnable as well. Now, they're not guaranteed wins like a Sun Belt game would be. But Weber is going to be no pushover, IMO.
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We do lose all our big playmakers: Higgins, Phillips, Collins, Tafuna and Bolen (will return), however we lost only 2 defensive starters, and return our entire offensive line who was arguably the best o-line in the sky last year. Green Cookie Monster's prediction is a fair one, we will have alot of untested talent on our offense. However I do think Mike Hoke would be as fine replacement for Higgins, Mike Hoke can run and pass, he will be a good dual threat guy. We got a steal at running back, His name is Barrington Collins, he is from Corona California, he was being recruited by Arizona, Arizona State, Oregon, Florida State, Oregon State, and UCLA. How Weber got this guy I will never know. He is said to have a 4.4 speed. Also got a reciever from Oklahoma named Marquis Walters this kid averaged 21+ yards per catch this season. He had 37 catches for 793 yards and six touchdowns.

With Mac as our coach im not worried too much, I think Weber will have the potential to be a real suprise this year, but like I said they "Have the potential". Our schedule is the most difficult one second only to Sacramento's. I cant wait for our first home game against Sacramento in a game that is quickly becoming quite the rivalry.

Im hoping for 8-3, but 7-4, 6-5 are more realistic, truthfully I dont see Weber finishing worse than 6-5.
 
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