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Future Schedules

Screamin_Eagle174

Active member
BOLD = FBS
Italics = D-II
Black = Away
Red = Home

2014

AUG 23 - vs. SHSU
AUG 30 - Western Montana
SEP 06 - @ WASHINGTON
SEP 13 - BYE
SEP 20 - @ MSU (non-conference)
SEP 27 - @ UC Davis
OCT 04 - vs. ISU
OCT 11 - @ SUU
OCT 18 - vs. UNC
OCT 25 - @ NAU
NOV 01 - vs. UND
NOV 08 - vs. Montana
NOV 15 -
NOV 22 - @ PSU

2015

SEP 05 - @ OREGON
SEP 12 - @ Northern Iowa
SEP 19 - vs. MSU (non-conference)
SEP 26 - @ SAC
OCT 03 -
OCT 10 - vs. CP
OCT 17 - @ ISU
OCT 24 - @ UNC
OCT 31 - vs. Weber
NOV 07 - vs. NAU
NOV 14 - @ Montana
NOV 21 - vs. PSU

2016

SEP 03 - @ WASHINGTON STATE
SEP 10 - @ North Dakota State
SEP 17 - vs. Northern Iowa

2017

SEP 2 - @ TEXAS TECH
SEP 16 - vs. North Dakota State

2018

SEP 15 - @ WASHINGTON STATE

2019

AUG 31 - @ WASHINGTON
 
marceagfan5 said:
:D - Really Excited about this game
GAMES. Me too. I had sent Chaves a long email a couple weeks ago imploring about such games... either H&Hs with other FCS schools, or finding weak, winnable FBS games for OOC.
 
It's funny, because my email alert came about 30 minutes after I posted about how we need to go this route or stick to FBS + D-II every season.

I could be wrong, but I think next season is one of those rare 12-game FCS seasons where we can either have 2-byes or 12 games. Now that we can make money on home games, I hope that means we take 6 home games, and a D-II contract probably makes sense next season even if with the SHSU game. I know we've got Oregon State in Corvallis next season, so we'll definitely have a Pac-12 team lined up, so ideally we add another FCS team and a cupcake.

The again, and I'm thinking this out as I write it, maybe we try to buy a one-off from some cheeseball EC FCS team and just ditch the D-II and play 11 with an extra week off...
 
We scheduled a home and home with a non local FCS team. Could've found a little easier one but I'm okay with it.

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Thank you Chaves! :notworthy: :clap:
 
Of course a lot can change between now and then, but 2014 looks like a very favorable schedule with NAU, UNC, ISU, UND and UCD on it, along with UM at home and no MSU. We'll be breaking in a new starter at QB, probably Vernon Adams.
 
Screamin_Eagle174 said:
Of course a lot can change between now and then, but 2014 looks like a very favorable schedule with NAU, UNC, ISU, UND and UCD on it, along with UM at home and no MSU. We'll be breaking in a new starter at QB, probably Vernon Adams.
You're right on there SE, 2014 is a really favorable schedule but as you mentioned things can change. I like the bye week being near the end of the season.
In the 2013 schedule you posted there are only 5 days between the last two games. Is that correct or possibly a typo? in one of the weeks following the Oregon game I would like to see UNLV if possible then a bye before conference play beginning.
 
clawman said:
Screamin_Eagle174 said:
Of course a lot can change between now and then, but 2014 looks like a very favorable schedule with NAU, UNC, ISU, UND and UCD on it, along with UM at home and no MSU. We'll be breaking in a new starter at QB, probably Vernon Adams.
You're right on there SE, 2014 is a really favorable schedule but as you mentioned things can change. I like the bye week being near the end of the season.
In the 2013 schedule you posted there are only 5 days between the last two games. Is that correct or possibly a typo? in one of the weeks following the Oregon game I would like to see UNLV if possible then a bye before conference play beginning.

Yeah, typo. Fixed.

Anyone know if 2014 is a 12 game year as well, or where to find that out?
 
My guess for 2013 is that we schedule a D2 at home on Sept 7, then schedule another home/home with an FCS for Sept 14 or 21, and we will have the first home game in that series so we would have 6 home games next year. Would love to see any of the Missouri Valley schools, they are tough games, but would be great for the schedule. Or possibly San Diego? We can always schedule an out of conference big sky team, but I think that is last resort.

I'm just happy to see Sam Houston on the schedule. I have been pretty hard on the admin for the schedule the last 2 years (and I understand a lot of it is out of their hands), but I think scheduling Sam Houston is a step in the right direction.
 
Heh... And it took the winning the national championship for me to finally come to peace with our loss to them in 04. The guy scored that touch down like 20 feat in front of me and darn near threw my horn at the guy sitting in the front row lol. Excited to see us schedule some FCS teams like this though. Really a good step in the right direction for EWU.
 
I still have no idea what the rule is on playing conference teams as an OOC game. I believe I remember the NCAA suggesting that games against a conference opponent will not count towards post-season consideration. They made this statement because Pac-12 teams has games slated to be non-conference against each other. But I'm not sure they ever actually made this a rule... or perhaps it only applies to FBS... who knows?
 
LDopaPDX said:
I still have no idea what the rule is on playing conference teams as an OOC game. I believe I remember the NCAA suggesting that games against a conference opponent will not count towards post-season consideration. They made this statement because Pac-12 teams has games slated to be non-conference against each other. But I'm not sure they ever actually made this a rule... or perhaps it only applies to FBS... who knows?

As far as I know, the only thing they don't count for is conference win/loss, but count for everything else.
 
Holy Toledo this sucks. another two play up games next year....

2013 EWU Schedule
8/31 at Oregon State
9/7 Western Oregon
9/14 at Toledo
9/21 Open
9/28 at Sam Houston State
10/5 Weber State*
10/12 at North Dakota*
10/19 Southern Utah*
10/26 at Montana*
11/2 at Idaho State*
11/9 Montana State*
11/16 at Cal Poly*
11/23 Portland State*
11/30 FCS Playoffs Begin <--- not that it matters.....
 
EdubAlum said:
Holy Toledo this sucks. another two play up games next year....

2013 EWU Schedule
8/31 at Oregon State
9/7 Western Oregon
9/14 at Toledo
9/21 Open
9/28 at Sam Houston State
10/5 Weber State*
10/12 at North Dakota*
10/19 Southern Utah*
10/26 at Montana*
11/2 at Idaho State*
11/9 Montana State*
11/16 at Cal Poly*
11/23 Portland State*
11/30 FCS Playoffs Begin <--- not that it matters.....

I would say that it's not a complete schedule killer since there's 12 games, 7-5 would get you in, but I noticed they added Western Oregon too... rough. From the sounds of it, Toledo will be pretty damn good too.

Toledo is coming off a 9-4 season in 2011 under first-year head coach Matt Campbell, including a 42-41 victory over Air Force in the Military Bowl. The Rockets finished 7-1 and as co-champions in the MAC West Division, but suffered a 63-60 shootout loss to fellow co-champ Northern Illinois, which advanced to the MAC title game.

The Rockets finished the 2011 season ranked eighth in the FBS with an average of 42.2 points per game, including a six-game stretch in which they averaged 51.5. They also ranked 10th nationally in total offense with an average of 481.3 yards per game.

When the Eagles and Rockets meet in 2013, UT will still be loaded on offense. Terrance Owens will be a junior this season, and as a sophomore he ranked sixth in the FBS in passing efficiency rating (169.2). He completed a MAC record 72.2 percent of his passes and finished with 2,022 yards, 18 touchdowns and only three interceptions. :shock:

Other standouts on offense who should be back in 2013 are wide receiver Bernard Reedy, the 2011 Military Bowl MVP who caught 40 passes last year; David Fluellen, who has rushed for more than 700 yards in two seasons; Zac Kerin, a second-team All-MAC center; and Greg Mancz, who earned Freshman All-America honors at guard.

@OSU
@Toledo
@SHSU
@Montana
@Cal Poly

YIKES. :ohno:
 
When we get the new stadium addition and start averaging 12 to 15 thousand a game I can see complaints about playing 2 FBS games each year. For now it is going to take money if we want to stay in FCS football, so shouldn't we support the administration in their efforts to keep our program a viable option. We aren't the only Big Sky team that schedules 2 FBS games a year to try to keep up with the Griz who have the revenue from averaging 20 thousand plus a game.
 
What's the use of a stadium expansion when you only play on the road?

Hard to believe we have 3 D-I non-conf games and NONE at home.

Anybody want to tell me again that we schedule well? This is pathetic and shows no forersight. You don't sell out your season, especially to the Toledos of the world.
 
Scheduling at the FCS level in the West is a slippery slope. As you all know, there aren't any West Coast non-Big Sky schools other than San Diego, and they don't want to play strong non-league scholarship schools outside California. In the last six years, they have played home-and-home series with No. Colorado and So. Utah. Neither have been regular post-season contenders.

So, how should EWU go about friendlier schedules? Keep in mind that losing money to play a home, non-league game isn't an option. That means the price you pay is limited, if you are going to buy a home game. Then you must keep in mind that some of these weaker schools (scholarship or non-scholarship) can play closer to home for just as much money, if not more money. If they want to play a money game, why play one where their travel costs are going to be $40-50,000 instead of $10,000? For the experience of playing outside their region? For the experience of playing on the Red Turf? I'm sorry, but $30-40,000 for most of these schools will pay for fall camp prior to school starting, or help with coaches salaries, or scholarships, or travel the rest of the year, or, or, or.

If you want to do a home-and-home with a school, who gets the first home game has to be negotiated. And over the years, EWU has almost never gotten the first home game in the series. Just last year, Cal Poly had the first home game. Next year, Sam Houston gets the first home game in that series. I know some of you remember Nichols State. I can go back to NE Louisiana in the early 90's on to Southern Utah in 2009, and almost every series has started on the road. Schools don't want to come up here. It's not a recruiting area for them. It's expensive to get to. It's hard to win in Cheney. So on and so on...it's been a problem for years that no AD has been able to solve consistently.

Stadium expansion will help, provided it leads to better crowds. If EWU can start attracting crowds of 10-12,000 paid, then obviously they have roughly twice the amount of money to work with. Plus stadium expansion and increased crowds will help balance the budget in times of decreasing state support and increasing tuition costs.

I understand many fans might not be happy to have Toledo on the 2013 schedule. If you look at next year's league schedule, you will see some road trips to very difficult-to-get-to places. Specifically San Luis Obispo, Grand Forks and Pocatello. Would any opinions change if you knew some of the guarantee money would be used for charter flights to one, two or even all of these cities? I have absolutely NO inside information that this is happening. But it wouldn't surprise me if it was the case. From experience, it becomes much tougher to win on the road if the team spends most of the day Friday traveling on planes, buses and finally packing in on burros to get where they are going. Their travel to Cal Poly last year was brutal and the trip home was worse. It won't be easy to win in any of those places, but easy travel would help in all of them.

What if the guarantee money will be used to fill in for increased scholarship costs next year, so there are no cuts to number of athletes or number of out-of-state athletes that are recruited? Again, I have NO inside information, but increased tuition has to be expected. If revenue stays static and costs continue to increase, eventually something has to give.

Maybe some of the money will go to increasing the recruiting budget, or to the strength coach for nutritional supplies, or to academic support, or to helping pay for housing athletes prior to school starting, or any of the other dozens of ways dollars are used in the athletic department.

Athletic administration has to make difficult decisions nearly every day, just as we all do in our personal and professional lives. Not all of those decision are going to be popular. But there are always reasons behind those decisions. And it's not just to make life difficult for the teams or the fans.
 
Thanks for your input, Larry, on the money problems that Eastern athletics continually face. I wonder if the members of the football team are unhappy with playing both Idaho and Washington State this year especially if it might mean flying to some away games.
It will be great to have you back for both football and basketball this year. Dennis did a good job with basketball, but it just wasn't the same listening to away games on the radio without you.
 
Great points and thanks for the insight Larry.

We don't always see the big picture.

However, as a loyal Eagle fan and alum I still retain the inherent right to bitch about anything and everything I don't like.

:)
 
I have some different thoughts on the 2013 schedule and our scheduling in general, but Larry does make some great points. I hope some people are starting to see that since winning the national championship, we will now have 3 straight years of crappy scheduling. Last year was an absolute joke, this year we play 2 FBS and 3 straight on the road to start, and next year looks difficult. With a 12 game season next year, 8 wins may be the minimum to get you into the playoffs, we only have 9 FCS games next year with 2 of those against top 10 programs on the road. If we look at our national championship year, we technically played 6 home games (if you count Central in Seattle) and only one FBS game.

I know money is a big issue with our schedule, funding, and travel, but do you know where we can get money? Fans, and do you know how we get fans? Wins, do you know how we get wins? Home games and favorable road games. Money or no money our scheduling is a joke. Next year is a 12 game season, our only non-conf home game is against a D2, that is a joke. How can we justify an expansion when we can't prove to bring teams in to Cheney now or we are never in Cheney for non-conf games anyways.

What I'm afraid of is that we are going to lose all of the momentum and fans we gained during 2010. What if we don't make the playoffs this year as well as next year? All the support and fans we gained during our national championship run will be gone. What has been done to capitalize on the championship? More tailgaters? We had record crowds last year because we won in 2010, if we keep scheduling like this and don't make the playoffs, those fans will stop showing up and the potential money that can be made will stop coming in. If we don't have the money or fans, its going to be a hard sell for a stadium expansion.

I agree that scheduling FCS in the west is a slippery slope, i just have the impression that we have already slipped and are having a hard time getting back to the top of the slope.
 

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