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newhouse9

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You've got a tough team. Best of luck for a great rest of the season. I'll be pulling for you to win the Big Sky.

Go Wildcats! Go Aggies!
 
Utah State's curse is lifted. I sincerely think they are the best team in the state of Utah. If BYU's offense doesn't start clicking, you probably will win that game. Besides Hawaii you should roll in the WAC. We have not taken a beating like that against an FBS team since Boise State. That's is saying a lot. I don't think you realize that you beat a pretty good Weber team and absolutely embarrassed them. You are not just good for Utah State, you are top 25. Turbin and Chuckie are absolute BEASTS! You guys should not pass the ball until you have to (in the WAC you he probably won't need to much of time). That rushing attack is close to unstoppable(ask Auburn). Not that the passing game is bad, just the rushing attack is that much more potent.

For Weber, I feel like that game put you guys in your place more than it put us in our place. I think Weber is still a very good FCS team, especially since Wyoming rolled against Texas State and we were able to keep up with you guys until you decided to A: Wake up and B: Run until we could stop it (we couldn't). Coach Anderson had to run up the score because of the halftime score. Utah State maybe loses 1-2 more games this year. What happened to our offensive playcalling? Even the ESPN3 announcers complained about it. Hammer gets an A in the first half and a F- in the second half. He didn't set the guys up to be successful, nor did he call plays to show confidence that he still believed in his offense. He had the USU defense confused with misdirection and countering their aggressiveness in the 1st half, and then decided to try to run against it in the 2nd half. It didn't work and he started playcalling like a deer in the headlights. The defense needs to go back to square one and talk about gap control. Our safeties looked absolutely terrible. Absolutely worthless on run support. Weber's got stiff competition in the Big Sky and could win it all, or could end up 4-5th.
 
Yes, great game. I was impressed by the size of Weber's line. They look like they'll help WSU through the rest of the season.

I also noticed Trevyn Smith was helping out with the coaches. I remember he seemed like a pretty good running back a few years ago. How does he stack up with Josh Booker?

Good luck this year!
 
bigskychamps07 said:
Utah State's curse is lifted. I sincerely think they are the best team in the state of Utah. If BYU's offense doesn't start clicking, you probably will win that game. Besides Hawaii you should roll in the WAC. We have not taken a beating like that against an FBS team since Boise State. That's is saying a lot. I don't think you realize that you beat a pretty good Weber team and absolutely embarrassed them. You are not just good for Utah State, you are top 25. Turbin and Chuckie are absolute BEASTS! You guys should not pass the ball until you have to (in the WAC you he probably won't need to much of time). That rushing attack is close to unstoppable(ask Auburn). Not that the passing game is bad, just the rushing attack is that much more potent.

For Weber, I feel like that game put you guys in your place more than it put us in our place. I think Weber is still a very good FCS team, especially since Wyoming rolled against Texas State and we were able to keep up with you guys until you decided to A: Wake up and B: Run until we could stop it (we couldn't). Coach Anderson had to run up the score because of the halftime score. Utah State maybe loses 1-2 more games this year. What happened to our offensive playcalling? Even the ESPN3 announcers complained about it. Hammer gets an A in the first half and a F- in the second half. He didn't set the guys up to be successful, nor did he call plays to show confidence that he still believed in his offense. He had the USU defense confused with misdirection and countering their aggressiveness in the 1st half, and then decided to try to run against it in the 2nd half. It didn't work and he started playcalling like a deer in the headlights. The defense needs to go back to square one and talk about gap control. Our safeties looked absolutely terrible. Absolutely worthless on run support. Weber's got stiff competition in the Big Sky and could win it all, or could end up 4-5th.


Biggest difference in that game, other than I think USU is a lot better than people realize, is that the USU coaches made adjustments at halftime. Weber's didn't. There is a reason why Cookus and Swan are still at Weber. Same thing applied to Cravens. They aren't good coaches or they aren't as co-coordinators. Mac needs to make one the coordinator. This two coordinator shit has got to stop. The defense looked confused the entire second half. Absolutely no gap control and the ends kept missing their assignments. Our DBs, Corners, and Safties are better than what I saw last night. USU made changes at halftime. They saw our weaknesses and took full advantage of them. They ran a true spread and then shoved the rock right up our guts. Finally...we need another guy returning punts. Kela isn't the right man.

On Offense...Hammer, at times, shows signs of brillance then he become complacent and doesn't change things up. I don't know how many times we ran that stupid draw only to lose yardage. Three times on 3rd down in the second half. A coaches job is to put his players in a position to win. Something he has a really hard time of doing that. I think he is getting better, but it needs to happen quicker. When old ladies in the crowd can guess what the next play is going to be that is pretty damn bad.

Isn't this the same shit we have been complaining about for the past couple years? Beck should help calling plays and Cookus needs to take over the defense. If he can't make it better, then give Swan a chance to be the coordinator, if neither work out, hell you have a former head coach on your staff. Let him give it a whirl.
 
Final thoughts....

USU is damn good and it is happening at the right time for the Aggies. This might be enough to get them into the MW. They will beat both WYO, CSU, Fresno, and possibly Nevada and Hawaii; they'll beat all the other WACcies; especially Idahlol, San Hoe za, and Tech. That defense rocked us last night and we all know Weber is a solid team. With GA at the helm that defense will only get better. What shocked me the most was the play of their QB (true freshman); I knew Turbin was going to run wild; and how fluid that State ran the spread with their running attack. 600+ yards and 440 of them rushing. I dont' mean to go off again, but Cookus and Swan should be fired just for allowing those numbers with the defensive players we have back.

Good job State...beat BYU. To bad you aren't playing Utah this year. I'm pretty sure the Aggies would win.
 
N.OgdenCat said:
Final thoughts....

USU is damn good and it is happening at the right time for the Aggies. This might be enough to get them into the MW. They will beat both WYO, CSU, Fresno, and possibly Nevada and Hawaii; they'll beat all the other WACcies; especially Idahlol, San Hoe za, and Tech. That defense rocked us last night and we all know Weber is a solid team. With GA at the helm that defense will only get better. What shocked me the most was the play of their QB (true freshman); I knew Turbin was going to run wild; and how fluid that State ran the spread with their running attack. 600+ yards and 440 of them rushing. I dont' mean to go off again, but Cookus and Swan should be fired just for allowing those numbers with the defensive players we have back.

Good job State...beat BYU. To bad you aren't playing Utah this year. I'm pretty sure the Aggies would win.

Agreed, I think the talent level has been equal or even better than that in 2008. The only difference in O and D coordinators in 2009/2010. They need to make changes quick or they should be demoted back down to positional coaches.
 
N.OgdenCat said:
Final thoughts....

USU is damn good and it is happening at the right time for the Aggies. This might be enough to get them into the MW. They will beat both WYO, CSU, Fresno, and possibly Nevada and Hawaii; they'll beat all the other WACcies; especially Idahlol, San Hoe za, and Tech. That defense rocked us last night and we all know Weber is a solid team. With GA at the helm that defense will only get better. What shocked me the most was the play of their QB (true freshman); I knew Turbin was going to run wild; and how fluid that State ran the spread with their running attack. 600+ yards and 440 of them rushing. I dont' mean to go off again, but Cookus and Swan should be fired just for allowing those numbers with the defensive players we have back.

Good job State...beat BYU. To bad you aren't playing Utah this year. I'm pretty sure the Aggies would win.

I agree, Aggies are potent. The 2nd half they played 'smash mouth down your throat' football and we could not do anything. gap control is non existent and no contain on the ends. if we can't do it in the 4-3 base, maybe switch to a 4-3 so we can help cover the side to side. Turbin is bowling ball on speed, once he gets to the corner, it's over. And what's going on with the tackling? we can't even wrap up a conversation the way we're tackling, sloppy and sloppier if you ask me. Look, USU came out of the locker room with a block of C-4 up their butt, and we were the recipients of 'adjustments' made at halftime.....

we can still salvage a good season, but i strongly support some changes in the managerial decisions on our offensive side of the ball......or else we will fulfill the prophecy of being either 5th or 6th in the Big Sky. we have the talent on the team, let's get the talent on the coordinators........and quickly please.....

:twocents: :dead: :stir: :dead: :stir:
 
travelingagg said:
Yes, great game. I was impressed by the size of Weber's line. They look like they'll help WSU through the rest of the season.

I also noticed Trevyn Smith was helping out with the coaches. I remember he seemed like a pretty good running back a few years ago. How does he stack up with Josh Booker?

Good luck this year!

I did not know Smith is back. Booker is still young and may turn out to be a very good back. Smith was a beast and best running back in school history. Both are small so I can see the comparison. If Smith was bigger he wouldn't have been over looked by bigger schools. He was a big recruit for Mac. He rushed for something like 5,500 yards in his 4 years with his best year being 1,600 yards and 28 touchdowns. It will be many years before those records get touched. The 2nd most yards at Weber is Nick Chournos with 3,500.
 
WSUFootballer said:
travelingagg said:
Yes, great game. I was impressed by the size of Weber's line. They look like they'll help WSU through the rest of the season.

I also noticed Trevyn Smith was helping out with the coaches. I remember he seemed like a pretty good running back a few years ago. How does he stack up with Josh Booker?

Good luck this year!

I did not know Smith is back. Booker is still young and may turn out to be a very good back. Smith was a beast and best running back in school history. Both are small so I can see the comparison. If Smith was bigger he wouldn't have been over looked by bigger schools. He was a big recruit for Mac. He rushed for something like 5,500 yards in his 4 years with his best year being 1,600 yards and 28 touchdowns. It will be many years before those records get touched. The 2nd most yards at Weber is Nick Chournos with 3,500.

Thanks for the info. I knew he was good, but I didn't know he had set records at WSU.
 
travelingagg said:
WSUFootballer said:
travelingagg said:
Yes, great game. I was impressed by the size of Weber's line. They look like they'll help WSU through the rest of the season.

I also noticed Trevyn Smith was helping out with the coaches. I remember he seemed like a pretty good running back a few years ago. How does he stack up with Josh Booker?

Good luck this year!

I did not know Smith is back. Booker is still young and may turn out to be a very good back. Smith was a beast and best running back in school history. Both are small so I can see the comparison. If Smith was bigger he wouldn't have been over looked by bigger schools. He was a big recruit for Mac. He rushed for something like 5,500 yards in his 4 years with his best year being 1,600 yards and 28 touchdowns. It will be many years before those records get touched. The 2nd most yards at Weber is Nick Chournos with 3,500.

Thanks for the info. I knew he was good, but I didn't know he had set records at WSU.

Smith was very explosive, had his way with big sky teams. rushed for over 100 against every team and some a number of times.

it was too bad though seeing him take a hit to his numbers his senior yr where he rushed for just 1,000 yds and 7 touchdowns. he had some off the field issues and maybe a few injuries. his backup made all-american though that yr and is now on a mission with 2 more yrs of eligibility left.

our 2008 team was like nothing we have ever seen, at least not in my day. beating montana was unheard of in ogden and we dropped 45 on them in a monsoon, smoked montana st in a blizzard at their place which is usually always a loss. pounded #16 nau at their home coming.

we had a qb pass for 4,400 yds, smith had 1,585 yds and our receiver had about 1,600 yds too. we got to the ncaa quarter finals in the playoffs after beating #3 cal poly in 1st rd, but they made us play montana again, hard to beat one of the best teams in the country twice, we lost at their place and montana went to the national title game.
 
catcat said:
travelingagg said:
WSUFootballer said:
travelingagg said:
Yes, great game. I was impressed by the size of Weber's line. They look like they'll help WSU through the rest of the season.

I also noticed Trevyn Smith was helping out with the coaches. I remember he seemed like a pretty good running back a few years ago. How does he stack up with Josh Booker?

Good luck this year!

I did not know Smith is back. Booker is still young and may turn out to be a very good back. Smith was a beast and best running back in school history. Both are small so I can see the comparison. If Smith was bigger he wouldn't have been over looked by bigger schools. He was a big recruit for Mac. He rushed for something like 5,500 yards in his 4 years with his best year being 1,600 yards and 28 touchdowns. It will be many years before those records get touched. The 2nd most yards at Weber is Nick Chournos with 3,500.

Thanks for the info. I knew he was good, but I didn't know he had set records at WSU.

Smith was very explosive, had his way with big sky teams. rushed for over 100 against every team and some a number of times.

it was too bad though seeing him take a hit to his numbers his senior yr where he rushed for just 1,000 yds and 7 touchdowns. he had some off the field issues and maybe a few injuries. his backup made all-american though that yr and is now on a mission with 2 more yrs of eligibility left.

our 2008 team was like nothing we have ever seen, at least not in my day. beating montana was unheard of in ogden and we dropped 45 on them in a monsoon, smoked montana st in a blizzard at their place which is usually always a loss. pounded #16 nau at their home coming.

we had a qb pass for 4,400 yds, smith had 1,585 yds and our receiver had about 1,600 yds too. we got to the ncaa quarter finals in the playoffs after beating #3 cal poly in 1st rd, but they made us play montana again, hard to beat one of the best teams in the country twice, we lost at their place and montana went to the national title game.


One reason why he didn't run as well in 09 as he had in 08 was the fact that Marcus was gone. I love how Smith always gets so much credit, but we always forget that he had an All-American FB, perhaps the best FB in Big Sky history, leading the way and was running behind one hell of a line. Yes, he was talented, but you've got to give credit where credit is due.
 
N.OgdenCat said:
catcat said:
travelingagg said:
WSUFootballer said:
travelingagg said:
Yes, great game. I was impressed by the size of Weber's line. They look like they'll help WSU through the rest of the season.

I also noticed Trevyn Smith was helping out with the coaches. I remember he seemed like a pretty good running back a few years ago. How does he stack up with Josh Booker?

Good luck this year!

I did not know Smith is back. Booker is still young and may turn out to be a very good back. Smith was a beast and best running back in school history. Both are small so I can see the comparison. If Smith was bigger he wouldn't have been over looked by bigger schools. He was a big recruit for Mac. He rushed for something like 5,500 yards in his 4 years with his best year being 1,600 yards and 28 touchdowns. It will be many years before those records get touched. The 2nd most yards at Weber is Nick Chournos with 3,500.

Thanks for the info. I knew he was good, but I didn't know he had set records at WSU.

Smith was very explosive, had his way with big sky teams. rushed for over 100 against every team and some a number of times.

it was too bad though seeing him take a hit to his numbers his senior yr where he rushed for just 1,000 yds and 7 touchdowns. he had some off the field issues and maybe a few injuries. his backup made all-american though that yr and is now on a mission with 2 more yrs of eligibility left.

our 2008 team was like nothing we have ever seen, at least not in my day. beating montana was unheard of in ogden and we dropped 45 on them in a monsoon, smoked montana st in a blizzard at their place which is usually always a loss. pounded #16 nau at their home coming.

we had a qb pass for 4,400 yds, smith had 1,585 yds and our receiver had about 1,600 yds too. we got to the ncaa quarter finals in the playoffs after beating #3 cal poly in 1st rd, but they made us play montana again, hard to beat one of the best teams in the country twice, we lost at their place and montana went to the national title game.


One reason why he didn't run as well in 09 as he had in 08 was the fact that Marcus was gone. I love how Smith always gets so much credit, but we always forget that he had an All-American FB, perhaps the best FB in Big Sky history, leading the way and was running behind one hell of a line. Yes, he was talented, but you've got to give credit where credit is due.

Totally agree on this one, Marcus was a 'house'; the film don't lie. And he was one of the most humble, well respected guy on the team. He sure had some big paws, but he did some serious damage opening up the path for Smith. In the Hawaii game, he kept blowing up the Middle Linebacker every chance he got, and now that linebacker is playing for the Jets....go figure...... :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
 
N.OgdenCat said:
catcat said:
travelingagg said:
WSUFootballer said:
travelingagg said:
Yes, great game. I was impressed by the size of Weber's line. They look like they'll help WSU through the rest of the season.

I also noticed Trevyn Smith was helping out with the coaches. I remember he seemed like a pretty good running back a few years ago. How does he stack up with Josh Booker?

Good luck this year!

I did not know Smith is back. Booker is still young and may turn out to be a very good back. Smith was a beast and best running back in school history. Both are small so I can see the comparison. If Smith was bigger he wouldn't have been over looked by bigger schools. He was a big recruit for Mac. He rushed for something like 5,500 yards in his 4 years with his best year being 1,600 yards and 28 touchdowns. It will be many years before those records get touched. The 2nd most yards at Weber is Nick Chournos with 3,500.

Thanks for the info. I knew he was good, but I didn't know he had set records at WSU.

Smith was very explosive, had his way with big sky teams. rushed for over 100 against every team and some a number of times.

it was too bad though seeing him take a hit to his numbers his senior yr where he rushed for just 1,000 yds and 7 touchdowns. he had some off the field issues and maybe a few injuries. his backup made all-american though that yr and is now on a mission with 2 more yrs of eligibility left.

our 2008 team was like nothing we have ever seen, at least not in my day. beating montana was unheard of in ogden and we dropped 45 on them in a monsoon, smoked montana st in a blizzard at their place which is usually always a loss. pounded #16 nau at their home coming.

we had a qb pass for 4,400 yds, smith had 1,585 yds and our receiver had about 1,600 yds too. we got to the ncaa quarter finals in the playoffs after beating #3 cal poly in 1st rd, but they made us play montana again, hard to beat one of the best teams in the country twice, we lost at their place and montana went to the national title game.


One reason why he didn't run as well in 09 as he had in 08 was the fact that Marcus was gone. I love how Smith always gets so much credit, but we always forget that he had an All-American FB, perhaps the best FB in Big Sky history, leading the way and was running behind one hell of a line. Yes, he was talented, but you've got to give credit where credit is due.

Smith was a machine. He fumbled the ball less times in his 4 years than Weber had wins over the Montanas. :twocents:
 
travelingagg said:
I also noticed Trevyn Smith was helping out with the coaches.

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