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Hofstra drops football

Yeah that sucks! I remember playing them during the Volek era. They have a great stadium and I even remember seeing a Hofstra sweatshirt worn by Ray Ramano in a 'Everybody Loves Raymod' episode. They had a football budget of $4.5M with an overall athletic budget of $20M, it must be a very expensive private school.

Northeastern dropped last week and there is talk of URI following suite.

Bad move.

I am sure SH will chime in as Carmazzi's older brother was very successful when he played at Hofstra.
 
I don't like this at all. That means BOTH of Gio's college teams have given up the ghost. I'm sure he's not happy, either.

Personally, I'm ALWAYS of the opinion that dropping football is a HUGE mistake. Except for schools like North Carolina and Kansas, it's just about ALWAYS the football team one thinks of first when branding a school. Yeah, Stanford has hoops and they and Cal have an incredible Chemistry program. Cal has a really nice legal program, too. But even for them, one thinks of football first.

BIG MISTAKE!!!
 
Neither Northeastern or Hofstra belonged in the CAA. These were two private schools who each had about a 20k enrollment (both under and post grad) and a pretty decent endowment. I am surprised neither of these schools tried to move out of the CAA to the Patriot League or NEC. If cost was the issue, they could have dropped some scholarships with a move to another conference. These are perfect examples of what happens when an athletic department doesn’t have the full support of the school administration (most importantly the school president). Here is a link to a statement from Hofstra:

http://www.hofstra.edu/home/News/news_update_120309.html

“football could not attain significant national recognition, and it has had low student, community and media interest, attendance and financial support. In addition, the football program, the largest of the athletic programs, is by far the most expensive. In the end, we could not continue to justify the expense of football compared to the benefits it brought to the University.”
 
On the Sportsline radio talk show yesterday, Grant Napear and Mike Lamb started talking about Hofstra dropping football. Napear thought it was awful cuz they've had football sixty years and he used to attend their games cuz he lived nearby. Napear then commented that he thought it could happen at Sac State too. Lamb replied that Sac St has increased attendance the last 3 years in a row and Napear came back with, "Oh please!" Lamb then said that we had 17,000 at home vs UC Davis. Napear then said, "Yeah, what are they going to do, play UC Davis 11 times a year?"

It's apparent that the pompous Napear doesn't think much of Sac St football, but he thinks it's a shame Hofstra is dropping it. What's the difference? Becuz he doesn't care about Sac St athletics, he disses us on his radio show. For his information, Hofstra's average attendance this season was 4,260 and Sac State's was nearly 10,000.
 
The Green Hornet said:
On the Sportsline radio talk show yesterday, Grant Napear and Mike Lamb started talking about Hofstra dropping football. Napear thought it was awful cuz they've had football sixty years and he used to attend their games cuz he lived nearby. Napear then commented that he thought it could happen at Sac State too. Lamb replied that Sac St has increased attendance the last 3 years in a row and Napear came back with, "Oh please!" Lamb then said that we had 17,000 at home vs UC Davis. Napear then said, "Yeah, what are they going to do, play UC Davis 11 times a year?"

It's apparent that the pompous Napear doesn't think much of Sac St football, but he thinks it's a shame Hofstra is dropping it. What's the difference? Becuz he doesn't care about Sac St athletics, he disses us on his radio show. For his information, Hofstra's average attendance this season was 4,260 and Sac State's was nearly 10,000.
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And the davis attendance was 9,800 and tuition (scholarships) just went up 32%. Why wouldn't they cut their program? UC's are harder to fund than the CSU's.

And Sac State just increased the student support $$, so Sac State football is going nowhere but up.

The 17,000 against UC Farm Extension was higher than the average for SJSU and every other Big Sky team that week and other than Montana, higher than any other BSC game this year.

He is such a little prick, I wish the failure would go back from where he came from: under a rock in New York.

Stop listening to his show, maybe the ratings will tank and he will have to get a real job, if anyone would hire him.
 
As I have said before, winning will solve the attendance problem. WHEN Sac State starts winning 7-8 games on a regular basis, I could see 12-14k fans in the seats for every home game with near capacity numbers for the home Causeway games. At that point, the Hornets would be competing for a playoff bid every season, if students and local fans can’t get behind a program that competes and wins on an annual basis; then there will be serious problems. Looking back at the Hofstra statement, the thing that jumps out at me was their stated lack of “student, community and media interest, attendance and financial support.” All of these issues could be issues here at Sac State but the most glaring and probably most crucial is the media interest. Sac State still needs to find a way to garner some regional/local media attention. Winning helps here, but it will also require tireless effort by the media relations folks to keep banging on the door of local TV stations and local newspapers. People won’t go to games if they are unaware of how the programs are doing. With the aggressive plan by Gonzales to increase on-campus residents (new dorms and new Village Square), I think the student support will continue to grow as more students become more involved with on-campus activities.
 
I don't think we will ever break the bee stranglehold.

Most of the Bee's management are UC Farm Extension grads, so they keep us down or out. Did you notice why our win over davis in basketball was a ho-hum announcement? If davis had won it would be on the front page.

Also, the Bee has always had an inferiority complex. I have lived all over the country and I can tell you that the 'major' paper in town never aligns itself with teams 200 miles away, ie. 49ers, Raiders, Giants, A's. Doesn't the Bee have an identity? Does the Fresno Bee trip over themselves trying to chase the lakers, Chargers, et al? No, it is Fresno State first.

The Bee repeatedly shoves these teams down our throat evidenced by their new 'format'. I mean come on, why do the 49ers and Raiders take center stage in a paper 200 miles away?

Then you have the Queens. Ok, give them space they are local. But everything is geared towards them. An article on buying Kings gear for your Christmas presents? Why not do an article on buying Hornets gear for your Christmas presents?

Why the love affair with prep sports? If the bee is so professional sports oriented, why does their new 'format' have major space for the 49ers, Raiders and Preps? Not one dedicated section for the Hornets, or even davis for that matter.

Yes, the city and paper of Sacramento have a major inferiority complex always trying to 'Bee' something they are not. Why not embrace what we have and promote it? Remember when Sacramento had the Surge and Gold Miners? The Bee promoted the hell out of them and they averaged 20K a game, those leagues were not much better or higher quality than the Hornets, and guess what they are gone. Sac State will NEVER leave, it is like Sutters Fort, the Epies Race and other sporting outlets that make Sacramento special.

Then you have douchbags like napear spreading his venom and it cycles.

Notice how the Davis Enterprise supports the laggies, like the Bee supports the 49ers, raiders, ad nauseum? I called the Enterprise and aksed them why they don't have more (any) Hornets coverage, their reply is they are a davis paper and support their team. What an idea.

Out.
 
Great post GCM,
Game set match! You hit the nail on the head exactly square. :mrgreen:

As a newer Hornet fan I was totally disappointed in the coverage by the Sac Bee.
So many missed opportunities for great articles about the players we want to know better and a vastly improved team that we want to support. Every day I jump out of bed anxious to read (my subscription newspaper) about Hornet Football......something.....anything!

Instead I got nothing or a small article doused with negative overtones and skeptisism. Or a fantastic article about the opposing team and how they would beat us.

GCM,
Your insight (that the bee editors are former aggies) explains alot. If not, they sure treat davis better for some dam reason. Hell, they treat everyone better.

Did you see the ironical writing last week?

On monday: an editorial sheepishly admitting Hornet Football is much improved, and actually wondering why Sac didn't get bigger crowds to watch the high quality product we put out.

On wednsday: a smaller article announcing the heroic acheivements of the aggies and their lamo conference all teamers. Then burrying the Hornets BSC All Team Players at the bottom of the article barely mentioning their names. Shameful and obviously biased.

I thought of writing the sports editor to suggest that the local paper should actually support the local team..... but I'm sure they know what they're doing.

And they wonder why readership is falling.
 
Sorry to see Hofstra drop their football program. The Hornets played a home and home with them in the mid 90s and I thought they were a well established and stable program. I don’t think that the three teams, Iona, Northeastern and Hoftra that have recently dropped their programs are relevant to our situation.
All three are private schools with high tuitions, huge scholarship expenses and low attendance. I read that Hofstra’s football budget was 4.5 million yet they could only sell 173 season tickets and averaged around 4,000 per game. A situation like that makes the decision a little easier especially in hard times.
Grant Napear is a ignorant clown, he needs to do more research and consider the facts before shooting his mouth off. Our attendance has to be in the top third in FCS and growing despite not having a consistent winner. Looking at the box scores of FCS teams, even some perennial playoff contenders attendance figures are surprisingly low. Even in the storied Ivy League many games are in the 5,000-8,000 range.
Probably the biggest disappointment this season has been our attendance. Going in I thought that we had a real shot at making a statement by averaging 13,000 per game. Attendance was good for Eastern Washington and Idaho State but was really disappointing for Montana and Northern Arizona. I know that the murder in the dorms happened the week of the Montana game and a lot of students left campus for the weekend but still getting 7,000 instead of 12,000-13,000 hurt. The Northern Arizona game on Halloween drawing only 4,000 was another shame especially for a thrilling win over a ranked team.
I agree that winning is the key to drawing more people to games but once they come out you need to show them a consistently good product to keep them coming back. Last year for example the week after the Causeway win we had over 11,000 for Northern Colorado even though Northern Colorado has never been a big draw, too bad that was our last home game.
 
The Green Hornet said:
On the Sportsline radio talk show yesterday, Grant Napear and Mike Lamb started talking about Hofstra dropping football. Napear thought it was awful cuz they've had football sixty years and he used to attend their games cuz he lived nearby. Napear then commented that he thought it could happen at Sac State too. Lamb replied that Sac St has increased attendance the last 3 years in a row and Napear came back with, "Oh please!" Lamb then said that we had 17,000 at home vs UC Davis. Napear then said, "Yeah, what are they going to do, play UC Davis 11 times a year?"

It's apparent that the pompous Napear doesn't think much of Sac St football, but he thinks it's a shame Hofstra is dropping it. What's the difference? Becuz he doesn't care about Sac St athletics, he disses us on his radio show. For his information, Hofstra's average attendance this season was 4,260 and Sac State's was nearly 10,000.
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Don't listen to the know it all RED HEADED step child Napear. The guy gets much more wrong then he does right. And when he's wrong he will not admit it. He doesn't go to Sac State games and he has no interest so he feels everyone else should have the same opinion.
 
footballnow said:
The Green Hornet said:
On the Sportsline radio talk show yesterday, Grant Napear and Mike Lamb started talking about Hofstra dropping football. Napear thought it was awful cuz they've had football sixty years and he used to attend their games cuz he lived nearby. Napear then commented that he thought it could happen at Sac State too. Lamb replied that Sac St has increased attendance the last 3 years in a row and Napear came back with, "Oh please!" Lamb then said that we had 17,000 at home vs UC Davis. Napear then said, "Yeah, what are they going to do, play UC Davis 11 times a year?"

It's apparent that the pompous Napear doesn't think much of Sac St football, but he thinks it's a shame Hofstra is dropping it. What's the difference? Becuz he doesn't care about Sac St athletics, he disses us on his radio show. For his information, Hofstra's average attendance this season was 4,260 and Sac State's was nearly 10,000.
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Don't listen to the know it all RED HEADED step child Napear. The guy gets much more wrong then he does right. And when he's wrong he will not admit it. He doesn't go to Sac State games and he has no interest so he feels everyone else should have the same opinion.
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I heard Napear on the radio yesterday make that statement about Sac State and he really is a flaming a$$! I can't stand the guy. Hey our attendance this year was not to far under what his beloved Kings are drawing now! Grant, why don't you can kiss our collective Hornet a$$ instead of kissing Kings' a$$es all day and night. The day won't come soon enough that you leave this town and go to...oh, who really cares, but Hell's Kitchen sounds good to me. I think the Kings are much more likely to leave this town long before Sac State drops football. Besides for my entertainment dollar, I think $10-15 bucks for a Hornet game is a helluva lot more value than $100 for a King's ticket and its roster of "retired" college players. Most NBA games suck until the playoffs and I don't see the Kings in those any more. Grant, maybe you ought to make an effort to meet Dr. Gonzalez some time and find out what's really going on over at 6000 J you arrogant a$$. I'll almost bet you that our budget is in better shape than the King's budget this year given their attendance ranks 28th out of 30 teams in the NBA so far this year.

By the way Grant, Hofstra average 4,260 per game. That ranks them 88th out of 128 FCS teams. Sac State's average was 9,935 ranking us 32nd in the country. Idaho State and Southern Utah have higher attendance than Hofstra and last I checked they aren't near a large metropolitan area like New York. So please tell me, why should we be surprised they dropped football at Hofstra? :roll: :!: :roll: :!: :roll:

Just like you tell people all the time on the radio: YOU ARE AN IDIOT! WHAT A MORON! YOU AREN'T A REAL SPORTS FAN!
 
Hammerhead Dad said:
footballnow said:
The Green Hornet said:
On the Sportsline radio talk show yesterday, Grant Napear and Mike Lamb started talking about Hofstra dropping football. Napear thought it was awful cuz they've had football sixty years and he used to attend their games cuz he lived nearby. Napear then commented that he thought it could happen at Sac State too. Lamb replied that Sac St has increased attendance the last 3 years in a row and Napear came back with, "Oh please!" Lamb then said that we had 17,000 at home vs UC Davis. Napear then said, "Yeah, what are they going to do, play UC Davis 11 times a year?"

It's apparent that the pompous Napear doesn't think much of Sac St football, but he thinks it's a shame Hofstra is dropping it. What's the difference? Becuz he doesn't care about Sac St athletics, he disses us on his radio show. For his information, Hofstra's average attendance this season was 4,260 and Sac State's was nearly 10,000.
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Don't listen to the know it all RED HEADED step child Napear. The guy gets much more wrong then he does right. And when he's wrong he will not admit it. He doesn't go to Sac State games and he has no interest so he feels everyone else should have the same opinion.
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I heard Napear on the radio yesterday make that statement about Sac State and he really is a flaming a$$! I can't stand the guy. Hey our attendance this year was not to far under what his beloved Kings are drawing now! Grant, why don't you can kiss our collective Hornet a$$ instead of kissing Kings' a$$es all day and night. The day won't come soon enough that you leave this town and go to...oh, who really cares, but Hell's Kitchen sounds good to me. I think the Kings are much more likely to leave this town long before Sac State drops football. Besides for my entertainment dollar, I think $10-15 bucks for a Hornet game is a helluva lot more value than $100 for a King's ticket and its roster of "retired" college players. Most NBA games suck until the playoffs and I don't see the Kings in those any more. Grant, maybe you ought to make an effort to meet Dr. Gonzalez some time and find out what's really going on over at 6000 J you arrogant a$$. I'll almost bet you that our budget is in better shape than the King's budget this year given their attendance ranks 28th out of 30 teams in the NBA so far this year.

By the way Grant, Hofstra average 4,260 per game. That ranks them 88th out of 128 FCS teams. Sac State's average was 9,935 ranking us 32nd in the country. Idaho State and Southern Utah have higher attendance than Hofstra and last I checked they aren't near a large metropolitan area like New York. So please tell me, why should we be surprised they dropped football at Hofstra? :roll: :!: :roll: :!: :roll:

Just like you tell people all the time on the radio: YOU ARE AN IDIOT! WHAT A MORON! YOU AREN'T A REAL SPORTS FAN!
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subject Why is napear still on?

Dear Sacramento Sports Talk Radio Station,

We all hate napear. I participate actively in a Sac State Sports blog
and napear is an unanimously agreed asshole. We do not want to be
lectured by some maloof stooge. Get napear off the air; he is boring
and obnoxious.

Furthermore, why are you carrying UCD football? I thought KHTK was a
Sacramento station? If the act doesn't change around KHTK, there will
be fewer and fewer reasons to listen to KHTK.

You are on a slippery slope in Sactown, and I am not the only person
that thinks this.

Go Hornets!
 
Standing ovation for Hornut!

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Thanks Hornut! I'm going to e-mail all three of these clowns too and I'll be sure to echo your sentiments!
 
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