How good are Montana\'s players, coaches comparably---really?

[bigvik]

Montana lead the BSC in rushing yards per game last year, despite not having Hillard, although the Griz ranked at the bottom in sacks allowed and sacks per pass attempt.

The rushing stats may have been misleading due to so much scrambling I don't know but, To be last in the conference in sacks allowed and hype their O-line so much just seems odd to me. Maybe their are trying to take pressure off other guys.

 

[bigvik]

The above piece was supposed to be quoted...my bad.

 

[A1fan]

Marty said

The rushing stats are a little misleading from the game last year with regards to UM rushing. Bradshaw had that one 30+ yard gain, but other than that PSU really shut down the UM rush. Swogger holding the ball a little long may have actually been a blessing for you guys since between our coverage and his speading the field by holding the ball allowed him to scramble for a lot of yards at a critical point in the 4th quarter. That 38 yard rumble by Swogger was pretty much the dagger in the heart.

Great defensive game to watch last year...]

Swogger's ability to escape tackles and sacks will be missing from the Montana game, especially since they have a freshman QB. This could be a problem for them.

 

[ManOfVision]

I thought they had Berquist, not a frosh, at QB. Some Griz fans think he was better than Swogger all along.

 

[martymoose]

I think Swogger was a letdown to quite a few in my opinion. D1A dropdown QBs aren't always the best in the program.

 

[A1fan]

I think Swogger was a letdown to quite a few in my opinion. D1A dropdown QBs aren't always the best in the program.

Without Swogger Montana would probably have lost to the Vikings.

 

[A1fan]

I thought they had Berquist, not a frosh, at QB. Some Griz fans think he was better than Swogger all along.

Berquist is the man for now, but Hauck wants the 6'4" frosh, Larson, to earn the starting role. Berquist is 6-3 as a starter, Hauck wants to do better than that..

 

[martymoose]

I think Swogger was a letdown to quite a few in my opinion. D1A dropdown QBs aren't always the best in the program.

Without Swogger Montana would probably have lost to the Vikings.

That's an interesting one to ponder.

The first half fall-apart of the PSU offense seemed to me to be the cause of the loss last year. Swogger just happened to be the QB for UM in my opinion.

 

[VikingHorn]

Maybe if Walsh had the stones to start Brian White in that game, we would have won. Maybe, maybe, maybe. I'm looking forward to this year's game in Missoula.

 

[ManOfVision]

Yeah, the reason PSU lost to UM last year was, as usual, because of Walsh's offense. Freeman had no business being in that game as long as he was.

 

[A1fan]

I think Swogger was a letdown to quite a few in my opinion. D1A dropdown QBs aren't always the best in the program.

Without Swogger Montana would probably have lost to the Vikings.

That's an interesting one to ponder.

The first half fall-apart of the PSU offense seemed to me to be the cause of the loss last year. Swogger just happened to be the QB for UM in my opinion.

Swogger was rushed hard during his last possession and he danced and squirmed for first down yardage. The Viking offense was running on all pistons and probably would have scored the winning touchdown, except that Swogger was unstoppable. I doubt if Montana's current crop of QB's could have done that.

 

[mvem]

Swogger was rushed hard during his last possession and he danced and squirmed for first down yardage. The Viking offense was running on all pistons and probably would have scored the winning touchdown, except that Swogger was unstoppable. I doubt if Montana's current crop of QB's could have done that.

This analysis isn't even close to reality.


Swogger's #'s in that game: 16-29-203; 1 TD, 2 INT; 47 yds. rushing

Not exactly unstoppable. Also, he's known mostly as a pocket passer. Most of UM's other QB's are/were better runners than Swogger.


The Viking offense running on all pistons at the end of the game? PSU's only 4th. quarter scores were a safety & a kick return touchdown; no offensive points at all (other than the ensuing 2 pt. conversion). They only amassed 246 yards of offense the entire game & Brian White was only 7-16 for 143 yards & his best pass (the TD) was in the 2nd. quarter.

 

[A1fan]

Swogger was rushed hard during his last possession and he danced and squirmed for first down yardage. The Viking offense was running on all pistons and probably would have scored the winning touchdown, except that Swogger was unstoppable. I doubt if Montana's current crop of QB's could have done that.

This analysis isn't even close to reality.


Swogger's #'s in that game: 16-29-203; 1 TD, 2 INT; 47 yds. rushing

Not exactly unstoppable. Also, he's known mostly as a pocket passer. Most of UM's other QB's are/were better runners than Swogger.


The Viking offense running on all pistons at the end of the game? PSU's only 4th. quarter scores were a safety & a kick return touchdown; no offensive points at all (other than the ensuing 2 pt. conversion). They only amassed 246 yards of offense the entire game & Brian White was only 7-16 for 143 yards & his best pass (the TD) was in the 2nd. quarter.

Your statistics are irrelevant, It is clear from my post that I was talking about the last possession of the game when Swogger carried the ball for first downs when the Vikings needed the ball to have any chance of winning the game. You had to be there.

 

[mvem]

Your statistics are irrelevant, It is clear from my post that I was talking about the last possession of the game when Swogger carried the ball for first downs when the Vikings needed the ball to have any chance of winning the game. You had to be there.

First of all, I watched the game, so I know what I'm talking about.

Second, you incorrectly stated that "The Viking offense was running on all pistons and probably would have scored the winning touchdown, except that Swogger was unstoppable." I correctly replied that the Viking offense clearly wasn't running on all cylinders at the end of the game & that Swogger clearly wasn't unstoppable. He wasn't unstoppable at that point or at any other point last season.

Swogger's 38 yard run sealed away the game, but it wasn't really the defining moment since PSU's lackluster offense still would have had to drive down for the winning score.
The 14-0 Montana start was the real defining point.

 

[A1fan]

Daja vue, all over again!

 

[ManOfVision]

Your statistics are irrelevant, It is clear from my post that I was talking about the last possession of the game when Swogger carried the ball for first downs when the Vikings needed the ball to have any chance of winning the game. You had to be there.

First of all, I watched the game, so I know what I'm talking about.

Second, you incorrectly stated that "The Viking offense was running on all pistons and probably would have scored the winning touchdown, except that Swogger was unstoppable." I correctly replied that the Viking offense clearly wasn't running on all cylinders at the end of the game & that Swogger clearly wasn't unstoppable. He wasn't unstoppable at that point or at any other point last season.

Swogger's 38 yard run sealed away the game, but it wasn't really the defining moment since PSU's lackluster offense still would have had to drive down for the winning score.
The 14-0 Montana start was the real defining point.

Yep, Freeman's inability to move the ball and turnovers near PSU's own endzone really sealed the deal early on. White and the guys on special teams did their best to make it close, but UM really had things under control most of the game.