If WSU Athletics was your girlfriend.....

[Webergrad02]

Most of us here love WSU. Almost all of us hard core fans are alumni that bleed purple and always will.

But lets pretend that we had a girlfriend that treated us like the athletic department has treated the fans, boosters and sponsors the last few seasons. How would the relationship work if you were treated the same way from a girlfriend as we have been treated by the WSU staff?

Lots of talk about change but little follow through
She talks about addressing issues in the relationship but never sits down and really addresses them. She reads a book that has a proven model for relationship success, but never implements that model.

How it relates to WSU Athletics:
In the March ask the AD video, Jerry says that the athletic department is going to dive deep into the issues surrounding home basketball attendance. He acknowledges that some things are not working right. He talked about having meetings with fans, sponsors, alumni and members of the community to address the issues. As far as we know, the meetings never happened. In the July ask the AD Jerry talks about patterning our program after how Gonzaga rose to being a basketball power. Yet the schedule we released this week in no way resembles the scheduling model Gonzaga used during their rise.

Constant double speak and loads of excuses
In one sentence she tells you she will do everything she can to help the relationship and the the next time you talk she tells you there is not hope and change is not possible. She starts talking about that "things are different" now. Then there is the loads of excuses. It is everyone elses fault but hers.

How it relates to WSU Athletics:
Coach says we want to play the biggest and the best. That we will try to get any D1 team to play at our arena. When Steve asked coach during the Gulf Coast Showcase if he was trying line up any future home games with the teams at the Showcase. He said that most of the teams there were "too good" to schedule as home games. (Ironically we have a h & H with Pepperdine) He has also made comments about not playing too many difficult road games and having a balanced schedule with winnable games. Randy rarely made excuses the first 4-5 years he was here. The last 4-5 years have been riddled with excuses. No one will play us. We are young and inexperienced. They are veteran team. The list goes on.

Overall Lack of Effort
Instead of doing as much as possible to keep the relationship thriving, she does just enough to keep it surviving. She does the same things that have proven relatively unsuccessful in the past but she is expecting differing results in the future. She plans things at the last minute with little fore thought to give you the impression that she cares.

How it relates to WSU Athletics
There are so many examples from our marketing and lack of marketing that apply here. Our students have absolutely no pride and investment in our athletic teams. This past year we planned a food drive for the Utah State game less than 24 hours before the game. The only mention of it was on a Facebook post 2 hours before the game. What could have happened if it was advertised on campus the week leading up to the game? Or it was a contest with USU to see who could collect the most food. We pay SATOG to butcher our timeout promotions when we could utilize students for that role and give them ownership? We need to turn current students into future donors or the Wildcat Club and our funding is going to die.

Unclear Priorities
She tells you she values you and your relationship but her actions are all over the place. She spends lots of time and money in some areas but totally neglects others. At the end of the day it very hard to see what her priorities really are.

How it relates to WSU Athletics:
What are the goals of the department? Do we want more fans and a great fan experience at the DEC? Our home schedule for the last two seasons does not reflect that. We pay our coach 3-4 times the average salary in our league. We also pay COA stipends for a few sports. We dis banded the band at most home games last season. Obviously we can't have money for everything. But it appears that we do not value the home game experience as much as other things.

So if WSU athletics was a girlfriend, would you dump her?

 

[n.ogdencat]

She never leads but instead follows or worse spends all her spare time on the couch pretending to be as active and driven as other girls (i.e. Gonzaga)

Ex: She tells you to go to the gym, but never is willing to herself. She is constantly telling you that she is as pretty and attractive as the other girls, yet never wears makeup, doesn't take care of herself, and is more content lying on the couch watching soap operas all day pigging out on chips. Yet, wants you to give her money to buy dresses, expensive perfume, and trips. She then gets mad at you when you suggest going on a walk, hike, or playing a round of tennis. She is already too good to do those things and then won't talk to you because you dared tell her she wasn't perfect or that she was merely average as a girlfriend. If you tell her to do more or try harder she, withholds love and threatens to terminate your relationship. Hey, but, she is always willing to take you to eat on the 6th floor of the stadium, four times a year, to feed you pig swill Sedexo garbage.

Weber State:
Athletics is constantly talking about getting fans involved, but never following through. They constantly talk about being on "Par" with other local institutions but aren't even close (please visit USU sometime 10 years ago we were just behind them, now we are miles behind them). Weber talks about being a leader in the Big Sky but won't do those things that are hard to actually be a leader. You can't just claim to be something and then magically it happens. For that thing to transpire, which you claim to be, you actually need to plan and do something. Athletics doesn't do anything. They talk and talk and talk...excuse after excuse after excuse. We've been hearing the "Gonzaga" speak for almost 10 years. What has truly been accomplished? Even those successful programs 10 years ago, are no longer viable and have become defunct (Coaches Luncheons). Student participation is atrocious and frankly the committed supporters of the program are slowly dying off. What will your legacy be Jerry?

 

[SWWeatherCat]

So if WSU athletics was a girlfriend, would you dump her?

I already have, so to speak. Maybe it's like the Bachelor (yeah, my wife watches it :lol in that even though I've developed a love for her, I can't offer her a rose. The rose is now going to another even though I still have deep feelings for her.

We pay SATOG to butcher our timeout promotions when we could utilize students for that role and give them ownership? We need to turn current students into future donors or the Wildcat Club and our funding is going to die.

I've expressed this or similar sentiment for years now. I've expressed this or similar sentiment on more than one occasion to both the school and specifically the athletic department. This concept is even reflected in my disappointment of and arguments against "the road to (nowhere)". How can involving STUDENTS of their college in working for/with their college in any way imaginable not be a WIN-WIN-WIN in about every possible way?

Even though others have argued the point, Weber became somewhat of a "good-old-boys club" many years ago and the effects are becoming noticeable to those with their blinders off.

 

[PURPLEFORLIFE]

Most of us here love WSU. Almost all of us hard core fans are alumni that bleed purple and always will.

But lets pretend that we had a girlfriend that treated us like the athletic department has treated the fans, boosters and sponsors the last few seasons. How would the relationship work if you were treated the same way from a girlfriend as we have been treated by the WSU staff?

Lots of talk about change but little follow through
She talks about addressing issues in the relationship but never sits down and really addresses them. She reads a book that has a proven model for relationship success, but never implements that model.

How it relates to WSU Athletics:
In the March ask the AD video, Jerry says that the athletic department is going to dive deep into the issues surrounding home basketball attendance. He acknowledges that some things are not working right. He talked about having meetings with fans, sponsors, alumni and members of the community to address the issues. As far as we know, the meetings never happened. In the July ask the AD Jerry talks about patterning our program after how Gonzaga rose to being a basketball power. Yet the schedule we released this week in no way resembles the scheduling model Gonzaga used during their rise.

Constant double speak and loads of excuses
In one sentence she tells you she will do everything she can to help the relationship and the the next time you talk she tells you there is not hope and change is not possible. She starts talking about that "things are different" now. Then there is the loads of excuses. It is everyone elses fault but hers.

How it relates to WSU Athletics:
Coach says we want to play the biggest and the best. That we will try to get any D1 team to play at our arena. When Steve asked coach during the Gulf Coast Showcase if he was trying line up any future home games with the teams at the Showcase. He said that most of the teams there were "too good" to schedule as home games. (Ironically we have a h & H with Pepperdine) He has also made comments about not playing too many difficult road games and having a balanced schedule with winnable games. Randy rarely made excuses the first 4-5 years he was here. The last 4-5 years have been riddled with excuses. No one will play us. We are young and inexperienced. They are veteran team. The list goes on.

Overall Lack of Effort
Instead of doing as much as possible to keep the relationship thriving, she does just enough to keep it surviving. She does the same things that have proven relatively unsuccessful in the past but she is expecting differing results in the future. She plans things at the last minute with little fore thought to give you the impression that she cares.

How it relates to WSU Athletics
There are so many examples from our marketing and lack of marketing that apply here. Our students have absolutely no pride and investment in our athletic teams. This past year we planned a food drive for the Utah State game less than 24 hours before the game. The only mention of it was on a Facebook post 2 hours before the game. What could have happened if it was advertised on campus the week leading up to the game? Or it was a contest with USU to see who could collect the most food. We pay SATOG to butcher our timeout promotions when we could utilize students for that role and give them ownership? We need to turn current students into future donors or the Wildcat Club and our funding is going to die.

Unclear Priorities
She tells you she values you and your relationship but her actions are all over the place. She spends lots of time and money in some areas but totally neglects others. At the end of the day it very hard to see what her priorities really are.

How it relates to WSU Athletics:
What are the goals of the department? Do we want more fans and a great fan experience at the DEC? Our home schedule for the last two seasons does not reflect that. We pay our coach 3-4 times the average salary in our league. We also pay COA stipends for a few sports. We dis banded the band at most home games last season. Obviously we can't have money for everything. But it appears that we do not value the home game experience as much as other things.

So if WSU athletics was a girlfriend, would you dump her?

This is great! Very clever, I hope Jerry reads this.

 

[Webergrad02]

Most of us here love WSU. Almost all of us hard core fans are alumni that bleed purple and always will.

But lets pretend that we had a girlfriend that treated us like the athletic department has treated the fans, boosters and sponsors the last few seasons. How would the relationship work if you were treated the same way from a girlfriend as we have been treated by the WSU staff?

Lots of talk about change but little follow through
She talks about addressing issues in the relationship but never sits down and really addresses them. She reads a book that has a proven model for relationship success, but never implements that model.

How it relates to WSU Athletics:
In the March ask the AD video, Jerry says that the athletic department is going to dive deep into the issues surrounding home basketball attendance. He acknowledges that some things are not working right. He talked about having meetings with fans, sponsors, alumni and members of the community to address the issues. As far as we know, the meetings never happened. In the July ask the AD Jerry talks about patterning our program after how Gonzaga rose to being a basketball power. Yet the schedule we released this week in no way resembles the scheduling model Gonzaga used during their rise.

Constant double speak and loads of excuses
In one sentence she tells you she will do everything she can to help the relationship and the the next time you talk she tells you there is not hope and change is not possible. She starts talking about that "things are different" now. Then there is the loads of excuses. It is everyone elses fault but hers.

How it relates to WSU Athletics:
Coach says we want to play the biggest and the best. That we will try to get any D1 team to play at our arena. When Steve asked coach during the Gulf Coast Showcase if he was trying line up any future home games with the teams at the Showcase. He said that most of the teams there were "too good" to schedule as home games. (Ironically we have a h & H with Pepperdine) He has also made comments about not playing too many difficult road games and having a balanced schedule with winnable games. Randy rarely made excuses the first 4-5 years he was here. The last 4-5 years have been riddled with excuses. No one will play us. We are young and inexperienced. They are veteran team. The list goes on.

Overall Lack of Effort
Instead of doing as much as possible to keep the relationship thriving, she does just enough to keep it surviving. She does the same things that have proven relatively unsuccessful in the past but she is expecting differing results in the future. She plans things at the last minute with little fore thought to give you the impression that she cares.

How it relates to WSU Athletics
There are so many examples from our marketing and lack of marketing that apply here. Our students have absolutely no pride and investment in our athletic teams. This past year we planned a food drive for the Utah State game less than 24 hours before the game. The only mention of it was on a Facebook post 2 hours before the game. What could have happened if it was advertised on campus the week leading up to the game? Or it was a contest with USU to see who could collect the most food. We pay SATOG to butcher our timeout promotions when we could utilize students for that role and give them ownership? We need to turn current students into future donors or the Wildcat Club and our funding is going to die.

Unclear Priorities
She tells you she values you and your relationship but her actions are all over the place. She spends lots of time and money in some areas but totally neglects others. At the end of the day it very hard to see what her priorities really are.

How it relates to WSU Athletics:
What are the goals of the department? Do we want more fans and a great fan experience at the DEC? Our home schedule for the last two seasons does not reflect that. We pay our coach 3-4 times the average salary in our league. We also pay COA stipends for a few sports. We dis banded the band at most home games last season. Obviously we can't have money for everything. But it appears that we do not value the home game experience as much as other things.

So if WSU athletics was a girlfriend, would you dump her?

This is great! Very clever, I hope Jerry reads this.

Jerry has probably read "just enough" to say that he has read it.

 

[oldrunner]

I would have shot myself a long time ago.

 

[Webergrad02]

Not Continuing New Traditions
Last year she planned and organized an amazing anniversary trip. Even though the relationship had been a little rocky she planned an amazing get away for the two of you. Yo mentioned that you really enjoyed the trip and would love to make it an annual thing. She agreed that it brought great energy and excitement into the relationship and would help make it happen each year. So the time comes around to plan the next trip and she keeps blowing you off when you ask about it.

How it relates to Weber Hoops:
Last year the alumni classic was awesome! It was a shot in the arm that the program, fans and supporters needed after the Reno and home schedule disasters. Both sides agreed that it would be nice to do something similar to the alumni game each season. Maybe it is because Dame has been busy with his rap career this Summer. But the athletic department should have taken the lead on this.

 

[SWWeatherCat]

I'm not cutting the a.d. slack but would it be reasonable to expect an event similar to this each year? I would think you'd limit it to once every 2-3 years so that it stands out and doesn't feel common place. It was indeed a great event, no doubt due to the efforts of the Great Dame. How about thinking waaaaay outside the box and coming up with some additional events to also generate interest and excitement that could be rotated with an Alumni Classic? In my small mind it just seems like the Alumni Classic is a bigger deal with scheduling challenges and something to hold a little less frequently to help keep a "can't miss" interest in it. What about off years where the current team is allowed it interact more personally with the fans/community in some manor?

 

[Webergrad02]

I'm not cutting the a.d. slack but would it be reasonable to expect an event similar to this each year? I would think you'd limit it to once every 2-3 years so that it stands out and doesn't feel common place. It was indeed a great event, no doubt due to the efforts of the Great Dame. How about thinking waaaaay outside the box and coming up with some additional events to also generate interest and excitement that could be rotated with an Alumni Classic? In my small mind it just seems like the Alumni Classic is a bigger deal with scheduling challenges and something to hold a little less frequently to help keep a "can't miss" interest in it. What about off years where the current team is allowed it interact more personally with the fans/community in some manor?

I totally agree that it can't be that same production every year. But why not have some sort of special event this time of year to peak interest.

 

[WILDCAT]

I'm not cutting the a.d. slack but would it be reasonable to expect an event similar to this each year? I would think you'd limit it to once every 2-3 years so that it stands out and doesn't feel common place. It was indeed a great event, no doubt due to the efforts of the Great Dame. How about thinking waaaaay outside the box and coming up with some additional events to also generate interest and excitement that could be rotated with an Alumni Classic? In my small mind it just seems like the Alumni Classic is a bigger deal with scheduling challenges and something to hold a little less frequently to help keep a "can't miss" interest in it. What about off years where the current team is allowed it interact more personally with the fans/community in some manor?

I totally agree that it can't be that same production every year. But why not have some sort of special event this time of year to peak interest.

Because this time of year they should be trying to peak interest in the football team.

 

[oldrunner]

If athletics was your girlfriend, wouldn't it be a little creepy for you to market her?

JUST SAYING! :yikes: :lol: :shocking: :kisswink:

 

[hawkssb04]

Not Continuing New Traditions
Last year she planned and organized an amazing anniversary trip. Even though the relationship had been a little rocky she planned an amazing get away for the two of you. Yo mentioned that you really enjoyed the trip and would love to make it an annual thing. She agreed that it brought great energy and excitement into the relationship and would help make it happen each year. So the time comes around to plan the next trip and she keeps blowing you off when you ask about it.

How it relates to Weber Hoops:
Last year the alumni classic was awesome! It was a shot in the arm that the program, fans and supporters needed after the Reno and home schedule disasters. Both sides agreed that it would be nice to do something similar to the alumni game each season. Maybe it is because Dame has been busy with his rap career this Summer. But the athletic department should have taken the lead on this.

The reason it happened and was successful was because Damian mostly organized and funded it himself.

 

[Webergrad02]

Not Continuing New Traditions
Last year she planned and organized an amazing anniversary trip. Even though the relationship had been a little rocky she planned an amazing get away for the two of you. Yo mentioned that you really enjoyed the trip and would love to make it an annual thing. She agreed that it brought great energy and excitement into the relationship and would help make it happen each year. So the time comes around to plan the next trip and she keeps blowing you off when you ask about it.

How it relates to Weber Hoops:
Last year the alumni classic was awesome! It was a shot in the arm that the program, fans and supporters needed after the Reno and home schedule disasters. Both sides agreed that it would be nice to do something similar to the alumni game each season. Maybe it is because Dame has been busy with his rap career this Summer. But the athletic department should have taken the lead on this.

The reason it happened and was successful was because Damian mostly organized and funded it himself.

Would it be safe to say that our girlfriend is really good at spending other peoples money and then taking the credit for herself?

 

[n.ogdencat]

Not Continuing New Traditions
Last year she planned and organized an amazing anniversary trip. Even though the relationship had been a little rocky she planned an amazing get away for the two of you. Yo mentioned that you really enjoyed the trip and would love to make it an annual thing. She agreed that it brought great energy and excitement into the relationship and would help make it happen each year. So the time comes around to plan the next trip and she keeps blowing you off when you ask about it.

How it relates to Weber Hoops:
Last year the alumni classic was awesome! It was a shot in the arm that the program, fans and supporters needed after the Reno and home schedule disasters. Both sides agreed that it would be nice to do something similar to the alumni game each season. Maybe it is because Dame has been busy with his rap career this Summer. But the athletic department should have taken the lead on this.

The reason it happened and was successful was because Damian mostly organized and funded it himself.

Would it be safe to say that our girlfriend is really good at spending other peoples money and then taking the credit for herself?

:rofl: :rofl: