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Interesting analysis...

qwerky1

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Lillard is predicted to be a Point Guard, but teams must be cautious. Lillard is an aggressive player with a “score first” mentality and while he will probably succeed as an eventual pro, Lillard is not a pure point guard by any means.

Lillard hits 90% of his Free Throws, can move right or left, is an effective ball handler and can pull up and hit the juper nearly anywhere on the floor. Which can cause problems for pro PGs when they fall in love with their jump shot.

Lillard’s playmaking abilities often seem to escape him as his focus is so often on his shot. Weber State describes Lillard as their primary scoring threat. Nice, but not want their NBA wants from PGs.



As I read this I wondered just how many games of Damian's has he seen? Damian does not take a lot of shots to accumulate points, he scores on about half the shots he takes. Maybe he's watching highlight videos on youtube. Secondly, in most games he's passing and the team is missing shots; negates the assist. This inability to score off the pass makes it seem as if he's not passing the ball. I believe it was the Southern Utah game where he ended the half with 18 points and began the second half without taking a shot but passing for the first 10 minutes of the half. Just wondering about this guys summation that Damian has a 'shoot first' mentality.
 
That is a terrible analysis of D-Lill. He is definitely not a score first kind of guy. He does a great job of running the offense, and putting his team in a position to win the game. Does this guy even know about the NBA? Most NBA PG's, at various times, are depended upon to score, and that they need to have that ability. No Stockton, Kidd, West, Cousy, or Nash weren't/aren't score first type of guys, but each of them could light up the score board when they had to, and each did.

One thing the guy misses, is the fact that D-Lill has a very solid Assist to TO rate. Last night was the first time, in a long time, where he had more than 1 or 2 TOs in a game. There will always be naysayers and doubters because Lill doesn't play in the gloriously over-rated Big East or amazingly medicore PAC-12.
 
The last player that went through the Big Sky that Lillard is comparable to was Rodney Stuckey. Now he was a player that really had a score first mentality and great athleticism. Watching him I was pretty sure he would be a scoring guard, but he has now made his living as a successful point guard in the NBA.

I take it that the analyst has never watched Lillard live as his points miss reality pretty badly. For the most part these kind of guys are just guessing and trying to sound important to an audience that knows nothing about the player. I hardly think his analysis carries any weight with those who really count -- they have their own scouts or scouting services that don't allow public access.

One thing I will say is that the NBA scouts knock on Lillard coming into the season was that he wasn't clutch enough, nor did he lead his team well enough in tight situations. Well, he has proved that wrong this year has he has been amazingly clutch. His finish against SJSU was jaw-dropping, and again last night he took over the game down the stretch.
 
talhadfoursteals said:
That is a terrible analysis of D-Lill. He is definitely not a score first kind of guy. He does a great job of running the offense, and putting his team in a position to win the game. Does this guy even know about the NBA? Most NBA PG's, at various times, are depended upon to score, and that they need to have that ability. No Stockton, Kidd, West, Cousy, or Nash weren't/aren't score first type of guys, but each of them could light up the score board when they had to, and each did.

One thing the guy misses, is the fact that D-Lill has a very solid Assist to TO rate. Last night was the first time, in a long time, where he had more than 1 or 2 TOs in a game. There will always be naysayers and doubters because Lill doesn't play in the gloriously over-rated Big East or amazingly medicore PAC-12.
I was being nice by calling it 'interesting' but you hit the nail on the head! Terrible is what it is. Like I said he must have been watching highlight videos because his analysis is wayyyyyy off! :coffee:
 
UtahPirate said:
The last player that went through the Big Sky that Lillard is comparable to was Rodney Stuckey. Now he was a player that really had a score first mentality and great athleticism. Watching him I was pretty sure he would be a scoring guard, but he has now made his living as a successful point guard in the NBA.

I take it that the analyst has never watched Lillard live as his points miss reality pretty badly. For the most part these kind of guys are just guessing and trying to sound important to an audience that knows nothing about the player. I hardly think his analysis carries any weight with those who really count -- they have their own scouts or scouting services that don't allow public access.

One thing I will say is that the NBA scouts knock on Lillard coming into the season was that he wasn't clutch enough, nor did he lead his team well enough in tight situations. Well, he has proved that wrong this year has he has been amazingly clutch. His finish against SJSU was jaw-dropping, and again last night he took over the game down the stretch.

Right :thumb:
 
when you look at the top ten scorers in the nation each week you usually see lillard attempting less shots per game then about half the top 10 which is pretty impressive considering he leads them all in ppg.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/statistics/player/_/stat/scoring-per-game/year/2012/seasontype/2/group/50" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

if lillard had former mvp david patten on the team he would get 10 assists per game. patten dunked the ball for 1/3 of his entire shots as a senior. lol

his efficiency tells you all you need to know of what kind of offensive player/threat he is.
 
qwerky1 said:
http://voodoodr06.wordpress.com/2012/01/04/20112012-college-basketball/
Lillard is predicted to be a Point Guard, but teams must be cautious. Lillard is an aggressive player with a “score first” mentality and while he will probably succeed as an eventual pro, Lillard is not a pure point guard by any means.

Lillard hits 90% of his Free Throws, can move right or left, is an effective ball handler and can pull up and hit the juper nearly anywhere on the floor. Which can cause problems for pro PGs when they fall in love with their jump shot.

Lillard’s playmaking abilities often seem to escape him as his focus is so often on his shot. Weber State describes Lillard as their primary scoring threat. Nice, but not want their NBA wants from PGs.



As I read this I wondered just how many games of Damian's has he seen? Damian does not take a lot of shots to accumulate points, he scores on about half the shots he takes. Maybe he's watching highlight videos on youtube. Secondly, in most games he's passing and the team is missing shots; negates the assist. This inability to score off the pass makes it seem as if he's not passing the ball. I believe it was the Southern Utah game where he ended the half with 18 points and began the second half without taking a shot but passing for the first 10 minutes of the half. Just wondering about this guys summation that Damian has a 'shoot first' mentality.
Among other things he missed in his analysis is Damian's ability to drive the lane and score in the paint, his defenders have to honor the jump shot because he can just as easily put it on the floor and drive past the defender...you know I will suffice it to say this is dude cannot be taken seriously given what other scouting reports have had to say.
 
catcat said:
when you look at the top ten scorers in the nation each week you usually see lillard attempting less shots per game then about half the top 10 which is pretty impressive considering he leads them all in ppg.
:agree:
 
qwerky1 said:
qwerky1 said:
http://voodoodr06.wordpress.com/2012/01/04/20112012-college-basketball/
Lillard is predicted to be a Point Guard, but teams must be cautious. Lillard is an aggressive player with a “score first” mentality and while he will probably succeed as an eventual pro, Lillard is not a pure point guard by any means.

Lillard hits 90% of his Free Throws, can move right or left, is an effective ball handler and can pull up and hit the juper nearly anywhere on the floor. Which can cause problems for pro PGs when they fall in love with their jump shot.

Lillard’s playmaking abilities often seem to escape him as his focus is so often on his shot. Weber State describes Lillard as their primary scoring threat. Nice, but not want their NBA wants from PGs.



As I read this I wondered just how many games of Damian's has he seen? Damian does not take a lot of shots to accumulate points, he scores on about half the shots he takes. Maybe he's watching highlight videos on youtube. Secondly, in most games he's passing and the team is missing shots; negates the assist. This inability to score off the pass makes it seem as if he's not passing the ball. I believe it was the Southern Utah game where he ended the half with 18 points and began the second half without taking a shot but passing for the first 10 minutes of the half. Just wondering about this guys summation that Damian has a 'shoot first' mentality.
Among other things he missed in his analysis is Damian's ability to drive the lane and score in the paint, his defenders have to honor the jump shot because he can just as easily put it on the floor and drive past the defender...you know I will suffice it to say this is dude cannot be taken seriously given what other scouting reports have had to say.
I questioned the writer about his summation and he said he was only making the point that Damian is more of a shooting guard than a point guard. :roll: okay.
 

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