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M: at Southern Utah

SDHornet

SDHornet

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M: at Southern Utah

The Hornets (10-8, 5-5 BSC) hit the road for a game to face a physical SUU (7-12, 5-5 BSC) before coming back to Sac for another 3 home games next week. Both of these teams are in the thick of the jumbled mess that is the BSC so these head to head matchups are crucial in determining who will make the BSC Tournament. Both teams are coming into this one on a 2 game win streak.

Team Stats Comparison: http://hornethome.com/sacramento-state-basketball/compare_stats/southern-utah
  • • Points/Game: Sac: 68.4, SUU: 65.8
    • Points Allowed/Game: Sac: 66.9, SUU: 70.7
    • Rebounds/Game: Sac: 36.4, SUU: 38.0
    • Assists/Game: Sac: 12.9, SUU: 12.0
    • Turnovers/Game: Sac: 12.1, SUU: 17.1
    • FG%: Sac: 42.5, SUU: 42.1
    • 3-PT%: Sac: 36.7, SUU: 31.5
    • FT%: Sac: 71.7, SUU: 72.7
Individual Stats: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/stats/_/id/253/southern-utah-thunderbirds

These teams are evenly matched in the team statistics but the Hornets have better balance across the starting lineup in scoring production with SUU’s top scorers being senior forward (#21) Jackson Stevenett (16.2 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 2.1 apg) and senior guard (#3) Damon Heuir (15.6 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 2.8 apg). Garrity will probably be a game time decision again, but with some additional time off he will more than likely play. If the game plays out like the first one did, Hornet free throw shooting will be the difference. If McKinney stays hot, he will give SUU problems but most importantly the Hornet front court will need to have a solid game. Veteto needs to do his usual thing and Dickson will need to find his stride again.

The Hornets need a road win and one in Cedar City would be huge. This team is very close to putting together a full 40 minutes of good play and if they can do that in this game; they should be able to head back to Sac with a victory.

Hornetsports Preview: http://www.hornetsports.com/sports/mbball/release.asp?release_id=10925

Go Hornets!!!
 
Veteto is a beast so far. Has made two buckets and been fouled both times and made the FT each time. 8-7 Hornets 15:48 left in the 1st.
 
And now he is hurt. SUU dude on the ground totally rolled into Konner as he had his back turned go for the rebound and couldnt see the SUU guy. Not good!
 
Hornets are putting on a shooting clinic in the first half. 34-22 with 3:13 left in the half. Defense has been really stout with a 1-3-1 zone. SUU has had a hard time getting to the basket. All this without Veteto who looks like he has a rolled ankle.
 
Halftime, Hornets lead 39-26. Hornets are shooting 44% from the field, 4-8 from downtown and are 11-13 from the FT line. McKinney leads with 11 points, Garrity with 9, Veteto with 6 before the injury, Dickson has 5, Salley with 4 and Demps and Eberhard each with 2.

SUU is shooting 38% from the field, 33% from downtown and they are 6-7 from the line. Heuir leads the Birds with 9 and Stevenett has 7.
 
79-67 Hornet loss. Only Katz can take a 13 point halftime lead and turn it into a 53-28 second half drubbing. Absolutely pathetic. Veteto’s injury is huge and if he is out for a while, his loss will have a major impact on the rest of the season. Let’s see if Katz can find a way to keep the wheels from falling off this time around.

Hornetsports Recap: http://www.hornetsports.com/sports/mbball/release.asp?release_id=10927

Box Score: http://www.hornetsports.com/assets/sports/mbball/SACSUU2.HTM

SSS Recap: http://sacstatesports.com/2013/01/31/hornets-lose-veteto-fall-to-southern-utah/

HornetHome Recap: http://www.hornetsports.com/assets/sports/mbball/SACSUU2.HTM
 
SDHornet said:
79-67 Hornet loss. Only Katz can take a 13 point halftime lead and turn it into a 53-28 second half drubbing. Absolutely pathetic. Veteto’s injury is huge and if he is out for a while, his loss will have a major impact on the rest of the season. Let’s see if Katz can find a way to keep the wheels from falling off this time around.

Yes, Katz shot 17.4% in the 2nd half and gave up 60% shooting to Southern Utah. Katz really needs to put in extra time at the gym working on his shot and his defense. Katz was unbelievable in the 1st half, but just lost it in the 2nd half. :thumb:
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peegeepee said:
Thanks Earle. My feelings exactly. SD will never admit that there might be another problem than "KATZ"
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Isn't Katz in charge? The buck stops with him.

This pathetic loss has egg all over his face. :thumbdown:
 
Wrong GMC, the other guys are both right. Let’s not hold Katz accountable for this programs performance. Let’s put this all on someone else…how about the equipment manager instead? An assistant coach maybe? Hell let’s blame the boosters too; I’m sure we aren’t carrying our own weight around here so we should shoulder some of the blame as well. :roll:
 
SDHornet said:
Wrong GMC, the other guys are both right. Let’s not hold Katz accountable for this programs performance. Let’s put this all on someone else…how about the equipment manager instead? An assistant coach maybe? Hell let’s blame the boosters too; I’m sure we aren’t carrying our own weight around here so we should shoulder some of the blame as well. :roll:
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George Bush! :lol:
 
Losing Veteto to injury I think is what hurt the most. In the first game against SUU he had 14 pts and 8 boards and SUU really couldn't get inside to score. In the six minutes he played before the injury, he had 6 pts and 2 boards and we were forcing a ton of perimeter shots that SUU didn't make. I'm sorry but they just ran around Quigley and Dickson in the key in the second half because we had no other real "big" presence to force them outside. Once momentum turned, it was pretty hard to stop it. True the guys shouldn't have panicked offensively, but against a team like that where we were forced to abandon the 1-3-1 zone, Veteto was a big missing piece on both ends.
 
SDHornet said:
Wrong GMC, the other guys are both right. Let’s not hold Katz accountable for this programs performance. Let’s put this all on someone else…how about the equipment manager instead? An assistant coach maybe? Hell let’s blame the boosters too; I’m sure we aren’t carrying our own weight around here so we should shoulder some of the blame as well. :roll:
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To clarify: Coaches can't dribble, pass, shoot, rebound or play defense. For example: (I am definitely NOT saying Katz is at the same level as Coack K at Duke), Duke, (the #1 team in the country), just recently got hammered by Miami. Duke was down 42-19 at half and it was never a game, which I don't mind ever seeing being a Carolina fan. The greatest coaches in the world can't make the ball go in or not go in.

I am not saying Katz is not responsible for this program, and he would never say that. I'm just not sure how much impact a coach can have when his team shoots 17% in a half.
 
SactoHornetAlum said:
Losing Veteto to injury I think is what hurt the most. In the first game against SUU he had 14 pts and 8 boards and SUU really couldn't get inside to score. In the six minutes he played before the injury, he had 6 pts and 2 boards and we were forcing a ton of perimeter shots that SUU didn't make. I'm sorry but they just ran around Quigley and Dickson in the key in the second half because we had no other real "big" presence to force them outside. Once momentum turned, it was pretty hard to stop it. True the guys shouldn't have panicked offensively, but against a team like that where we were forced to abandon the 1-3-1 zone, Veteto was a big missing piece on both ends.
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Good points and I agree. Losing Veteto will be huge going forward. Katz will have to find a way to use what he has to find a way to make something work. It’s on him to make adjustments both during a game and heading into one. It doesn’t help that the lone depth at center has been on the bench with a knee injury since game 1.
 
EarleHornet said:
To clarify: Coaches can't dribble, pass, shoot, rebound or play defense. For example: (I am definitely NOT saying Katz is at the same level as Coack K at Duke), Duke, (the #1 team in the country), just recently got hammered by Miami. Duke was down 42-19 at half and it was never a game, which I don't mind ever seeing being a Carolina fan. The greatest coaches in the world can't make the ball go in or not go in.

I am not saying Katz is not responsible for this program, and he would never say that. I'm just not sure how much impact a coach can have when his team shoots 17% in a half.
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The problem is these horrid performances happen too often under Katz. I understand there will be bad shooting nights, but these type of performances still remain a common occurrence and it’s freakin’ year 5 of Katz’ tenure. The current talent on this roster is too good to be as inconsistent as it has been over the course of this season and I’m just out of patience waiting for this program to turn the corner with Katz at the helm. These road losses are what make the difference between heading to BSC Tournament play and watching it from home and I'm sick and tired of seeing this team find a new way to lose to comparable (SUU) or inferior (ISU) competition.
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SDHornet said:
EarleHornet said:
To clarify: Coaches can't dribble, pass, shoot, rebound or play defense. For example: (I am definitely NOT saying Katz is at the same level as Coack K at Duke), Duke, (the #1 team in the country), just recently got hammered by Miami. Duke was down 42-19 at half and it was never a game, which I don't mind ever seeing being a Carolina fan. The greatest coaches in the world can't make the ball go in or not go in.

I am not saying Katz is not responsible for this program, and he would never say that. I'm just not sure how much impact a coach can have when his team shoots 17% in a half.
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The problem is these horrid performances happen too often under Katz. I understand there will be bad shooting nights, but these type of performances still remain a common occurrence and it’s freakin’ year 5 of Katz’ tenure. The current talent on this roster is too good to be as inconsistent as it has been over the course of this season and I’m just out of patience waiting for this program to turn the corner with Katz at the helm. These road losses are what make the difference between heading to BSC Tournament play and watching it from home and I'm sick and tired of seeing this team find a new way to lose to comparable (SUU) or inferior (ISU) competition.
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Sorry to hear about your patience. I guess I'm a little different. I do agonize with every loss, but I do see great effort by the players and coaches, great young men representing our school and good talent (your words,) and improving talent each year. I know when I go to every home game or watch every road game, the effort is there, everytime.

We all want more wins, every team does. I truly believe, good/great results are on the way. Also, winning home games is the difference between heading to the BSC Tournament and watching from home.
Hopefully, we won't screw up our previous winning ways at home next week.
 
I hope you're right Earle. Personally I think the talent level has plateaued but we do have a couple of promising recruits lined up so I guess we'll see. I've been critical of Katz because the very good and great players just aren't going to come here so the onus is on Katz to make do with what he has. I wish I could be as optimistic as you but Katz' track record through 4.5 years gives me no reason to feel that way.
 
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