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MSU non-conference?
- Thread starter nwray1
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It is a non-con game. The NCAA was going to ban non-con games against conference opponents, but hasn't done it yet. I really hope they do it soon, as I hate these type of games. Supposedly, the ban was going to happen after the PAC-12 had integrated Utah and Colorado, but I think with all of the conference realignment, the NCAA is holding off so a bunch of pre-existing contracts aren't invalidated.
I'd much rather see non-cons as intersectional games.
I'd much rather see non-cons as intersectional games.
grizhunter
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This will be another god awful game, the Eagles are just to damn good and the cats IMHO will be worse next year.
Screamin_Eagle174
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I wouldn't count out MSU in 2014; you guys still have a lot of talent coming back. Who's the front-runner to replace McGhee... is it Bleskin, or somebody else?grizhunter said:
The way I understand it is BSC teams only play 8 games IN-CONFERENCE every year, and those games have been pre set by the league thru 2015. There are 13 teams, and you can only play 8 of them. So when this re-alignment happened 2 years back, BSC schools were allowed to play other BSC schools as NON-Conference games. The games all count toward playoff indications within the FCS, but NOT toward BSC losses or titles. Kind of weird, but Remember Cal Poly game in 2012, it was a non-conference game, which EWU won, but ended up sharing the BSC title with them and MSU. This may go away, but not for now. hope that helps. :wall:
grizhunter
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Bleskin is not a lock at all, Ash has said it will be wide open in the spring. We have Roderick, Prukop, Blesking and McQueary. I would say the first two are the true dual threats and McQueary has a cannon and a big frame, Bleskin is steady but I do not see him winning out. Will be an interesting spring, hopefully they can figure out the D-line, linebackers should be good, secondary will get betterScreamin_Eagle174 said:
. We are thin at the reciever positions, need some help there as well.luckyintheorder
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kalm said:
I'm with Dopa. This game is a stinker for playoff seeding should EWU come up short in the game but still manage to win the BSC. Too much risk, little reward IMO. Would love to see Towson, Villanova or UNH on the schedule. Early prediction: EWU BSC champs 2014!
I would prefer it be a league game, but I'm glad we don't lose them off our schedule.
As far as being worried about "what happens to playoff seeding if we lose," I think that all takes care of itself in the end. We probably get more credit for a loss to a good msu team then a win against a bad dII team in some years.
From a paying fans prospective, I will take a quality opponent that also happens to be a rival over almost anyone else.
As far as being worried about "what happens to playoff seeding if we lose," I think that all takes care of itself in the end. We probably get more credit for a loss to a good msu team then a win against a bad dII team in some years.
From a paying fans prospective, I will take a quality opponent that also happens to be a rival over almost anyone else.
MLEagle said:
Definitely agree, we have UW, MSU, UM, SHSU, and PSU as 5 quality games (the PSU games have been amazing the past few years as well as too close for comfort)!
Barring injuries EWU should be in the semi's for one more run deep, from looking at what players other playoff teams are losing, I would hope we make the championship.
luckyintheorder said:
We would be less likely to win against those three opponents. MSU is down. Playing OOC's against mediocre teams...especially from power conferences is exactly what you want in this scenario. The FBS and conference schedules provide enough challenge and SOS help.
eaglesfootball
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I am glad we are playing Montana state, it is always a good game. we should be playing them every year anyway.
luckyintheorder
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kalm said:
Certainly OK with most poster's position that MSU is a rival and always a good home game. Wouldn't you pay to go see any other top team from CAA at home? I would consider it a re-focus/measuring stick game after a couple of cupcakes, not to mention a home and home would bring them EWU into my range ;-). EWU's SOS will suffer this coming season as there are several poor BSC games IMO.
dudeitsaid
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kalm said:
That's a good question. I think MSU has strong name recognition, some local fans and fans that will travel, and I would venture to say that most people don't realize that this is a "non-con" game. I think except for FCS fans who follow football more closely, seeing that William & Mary or JMU, or even Albany would leave people going, "huh, who are they, and why should this game matter to me." As much as you and I would love to see some of those match-ups, I personally don't think they do more for fan excitement and attendance than MSU or some of the other Big Sky non-con games that get scheduled.
I'd love to see FCS teams like Delaware State or Valparaiso on the sked. You know we're going to beat them 99 out of 100 and usually by a bunch. But they still count as an FCS win. Our sked is always going to be among the better ones at this level because of conference play and a BCS game.
How about giving Butler a home/home? For them, it represents a chance to play against a power team from this level and the only real chance to get a game like this at their own house. For us, they have a little bit of name recognition from beating Gonzaga in b-ball and represents two fairly easy wins. Seems like a win/win for both programs.
It amazes me that North Dakota can get Valpo to come to Grand Forks--- possibly the hardest program to get to in the country--- and we can't.
How about giving Butler a home/home? For them, it represents a chance to play against a power team from this level and the only real chance to get a game like this at their own house. For us, they have a little bit of name recognition from beating Gonzaga in b-ball and represents two fairly easy wins. Seems like a win/win for both programs.
It amazes me that North Dakota can get Valpo to come to Grand Forks--- possibly the hardest program to get to in the country--- and we can't.
marceagfan5
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We should always schedule MSU.
We have absolutely owned them the past 25 years.
They are typically a very good team and its always a good game.
If we weren't playing them this year, we'd probably have another FBS game
Hate the in-conference non conference games, but always love the MSU games.
We have absolutely owned them the past 25 years.
They are typically a very good team and its always a good game.
If we weren't playing them this year, we'd probably have another FBS game
Hate the in-conference non conference games, but always love the MSU games.
