It is only fitting that with the new format of all 7 teams playing on one floor, and a Thursday/Friday/Saturday schedule that Weber hosts. There is going to be plenty of time to market this unlike the last couple of seasons, and coming off the heels of the 11,000 crowd we saw against ECU is there any reason Saturday March 15 couldn't be a sell out with 12,000 strong. I really hope we face Montana on March 15.
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New Big Sky Tourney format = opportunity
- Thread starter WeberSki
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Dream on! Only way there will be a crowd above 9K for the BIG SKY tourney will be if there's a promo...like 2 for the price of 1. It's the Big Sky tournament, not the CIT!! Visiting teams bring in a crowd of a couple of hundred at most (ISU would have maybe more but they are pretty well out of it). The conference dictates the pricing & seating.
Probably a lot of the second half surge in last night's game were young fans coming in for the after game 'Space Jam' showing. Set behind those young students and watch...they're all looking at their smart phones & chatting...not even watching much of the game. :roll: It certainly appears that attendance reporting (at all college games) this year is PAID attendance (season tickets seats whether holders are there or not) not just actual "seats" in the seats. :|
Probably a lot of the second half surge in last night's game were young fans coming in for the after game 'Space Jam' showing. Set behind those young students and watch...they're all looking at their smart phones & chatting...not even watching much of the game. :roll: It certainly appears that attendance reporting (at all college games) this year is PAID attendance (season tickets seats whether holders are there or not) not just actual "seats" in the seats. :|
oldrunner
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It's not paid attendance. If it were, we would have 30,000 for every game. Counting the 25,000 paid students who don't show up. They have those electronic scanners at the main concourse entrances and they probably estimate those coming in through other entrances. I think those figures are quite accurate. At least within +-100.
Old runner, I'd be shocked if Weber was any different than most places around the country who count "paid attendance" (and ballboys, press row, the cheerleaders, announcers, etc.), NOT actual butts in the seats. I'm a Northwestern grad and I was watching the Indiana-NU game Saturday. There were empty seats everywhere, but when the "official attendance" was posted -- wa-la! A sellout.
Watch a Jazz game on TV this year -- there are thousands of empty seats every night, but when they post the official attendance? 17,000, always.
Watch a Jazz game on TV this year -- there are thousands of empty seats every night, but when they post the official attendance? 17,000, always.
Purple_Posse
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Too bad they don't show paid tickets as well as the actual attendance....seems like some arena's and sports do that. Maybe its too much work for them
oldrunner
Active member
Before I heard what the official attendance was, my buddy and I were speculating about it. We've been attending WSU games for 40+ years. He guessed over 7,000 and I was saying that it might be closer to 8,000. The Dee Center is somewhat deceptive. Empty seats down lower give the impression of a smaller crowd, but when you get some of the upper rows filling in, it adds up quickly. I think that was a relatively accurate count.
weberwildcat
Active member
this is our first opportunity to host on the weekend format. so attendance cant be lower than 2007, 2009, 2010.
i will look forward to that thursday night off. so please beat nau on saturday and get it clinched!
if we can get 7866 on a thurs night and close to 9k on a sat (vs griz) then i think we have a good shot to get a good crowd on a fri night in march.
:rockon:
i hope someone tries to get students aware of the big games in the tourney. tell them its on espn, dont mention its espnu. :lol:
i will look forward to that thursday night off. so please beat nau on saturday and get it clinched!
if we can get 7866 on a thurs night and close to 9k on a sat (vs griz) then i think we have a good shot to get a good crowd on a fri night in march.
:rockon:
i hope someone tries to get students aware of the big games in the tourney. tell them its on espn, dont mention its espnu. :lol:
oldrunner
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I don't think that we would be playing on Thursday. #1 gets a first round bye. We would be playing Friday night and Saturday, if we win.
I still would want to watch as many of the first round games as I could, and both semifinal games.
Thursday's games will not be attended well. I am hoping that at least some of these teams travel well, but I wouldn't bank on it. If they make it in, Montana would probably bring the most fans and that would likely be only a few hundred. :wall:
I still would want to watch as many of the first round games as I could, and both semifinal games.
Thursday's games will not be attended well. I am hoping that at least some of these teams travel well, but I wouldn't bank on it. If they make it in, Montana would probably bring the most fans and that would likely be only a few hundred. :wall:
My bet is they include the number of season tickets sold as a part of each game's attendance total, then add the scanned tickets at the entrances (programmed to not duplicate count on the season seats?) and yes,'oldrunner', + an estimate for "other". But no, 'oldrunner', it's an obvious stretch to say student enrollment numbers would have to be included in the "paid" attendance category! :rofl: To get technical about it, I guess you should just ask the DEC or ticket office manager or whoever's in charge of the bean (I mean "seat") counting.
I've been to most all of the BSC tourneys thru the years at the DEC, weekend formats, midweek formats, the conference has tweaked it back & forth a few times, and the first night of action always drew a small crowd (visiting team fan's were a few hundred at most, except if ISU was in then maybe up towards 1k). The semifinal & championship games--IF Weber St. was playing--amounted to maybe in the 9k's at best. ('Catcat' how 'bout the history #s ?). I really think you can count on about the same attendance numbers this year. Yah, I'll predict that the DEC will host, win or not Sat. night.
I've been to most all of the BSC tourneys thru the years at the DEC, weekend formats, midweek formats, the conference has tweaked it back & forth a few times, and the first night of action always drew a small crowd (visiting team fan's were a few hundred at most, except if ISU was in then maybe up towards 1k). The semifinal & championship games--IF Weber St. was playing--amounted to maybe in the 9k's at best. ('Catcat' how 'bout the history #s ?). I really think you can count on about the same attendance numbers this year. Yah, I'll predict that the DEC will host, win or not Sat. night.
mtgrizfankb1
Active member
They don't, atleast they didn't Montana last year. I went to everygame and bought the all weekend pass. But you have a choice of single games or buying by the day or all weekend. It also was 5-10 bucks for students or 15 for all weekend student pass. Our university and donor paid for all the student tickets so students didn't have to pay, which I assume weber would also look at. Attendance was actually decent for the later games and of course griz games. But the 5 pms were pretty low attendance.AlumniWSU said:My bet is they include the number of season tickets sold as a part of each game's attendance total, then add the scanned tickets at the entrances (programmed to not duplicate count on the season seats?) and yes,'oldrunner', + an estimate for "other". But no, 'oldrunner', it's an obvious stretch to say student enrollment numbers would have to be included in the "paid" attendance category! :rofl: To get technical about it, I guess you should just ask the DEC or ticket office manager or whoever's in charge of the bean (I mean "seat") counting.
I've been to most all of the BSC tourneys thru the years at the DEC, weekend formats, midweek formats, the conference has tweaked it back & forth a few times, and the first night of action always drew a small crowd (visiting team fan's were a few hundred at most, except if ISU was in then maybe up towards 1k). The semifinal & championship games--IF Weber St. was playing--amounted to maybe in the 9k's at best. ('Catcat' how 'bout the history #s ?). I really think you can count on about the same attendance numbers this year. Yah, I'll predict that the DEC will host, win or not Sat. night.
AlumniWSU said:
Not sure I understand your logic at all.. There were no promos for CIT. Are you saying CIT was more exciting than the conference tourney? :lol:
If I remember right CIT games were $15 or so for each individual game. About the same price. There was almost 9k for the NAU game last Saturday. 'Without Dreaming' I'm quite sure we can get close to a sellout next weekend.
SWWeatherCat
Active member
WeberSki said:
As for the CIT Championship game I thought I remembered $5 tix for that one? Even if it was more, I remember thinking it was very reasonable. I believe we can come close to a sellout Saturday, but I'm not so sure about Friday. Wasn't there a guaranteed attendance clause or something for hosting games in that tourney? For me, I'd say the CIT was as exciting (if not more so) than the BSC tourney since it was one of the rare occasions we got to play some different teams, and in the DEC no less. That tourney will go down as one of the more memorable in a long list of notable Weber history.
Yes, I was saying that the CIT tourney was more exciting to some of us fans than the BSC tourney! Especially last year. And the DEC attendance at around 10,500 beat the record for that tourney. Maybe this year's BSC tourney will be a near sellout which would be great! But don't forget that the NAU game had a promo on ticket prices & I don't see a promo on the BSC (except for students maybe). The prices for general public were $10 on the CIT; prices for general public for BSC are double at $20 (rows 1-30, individual sessions-as in Fri/Sat). That's my point
AlumniWSU said:
Of course it was more exciting...look at who we played. Not one from the Big Sky Conference. :nod:
But yeah, the prices are going to hurt attendance. :twocents:
darealreal
New member
oldrunner said:
I've done some research on seating as well because of this speculation. I'm always amazed at the numbers that come in and that are announced. Here is what I've come up with from blue prints of the building. If I can find them, I'll post it.
From the Portal where you walk in (row 20), down to the court floor, if every chair in every section is filled body to body that amounts to 4300 people. The top is a lot larger than the bottom. They used to give tours at the Dee Events Center. One fact they would say is that in there is over 1000 seats in the top two rows.
Every game, I think of those when I hear the attendance number. First I think, 1) Are there many seats open in the lower bowl next to me? 2) Are the top rows filled?
If you see lots of empty seats in either area, you can get a fill for how the attendance is really going. From what I've noticed, they definitely include season tickets paid or given away.
weberwildcat
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we said that Montana have a huge advantage over us because they had the one seed 2 years in a row and played one less game in 3 days but now we will get that chance
