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Next steps in the program...

WSUfan1

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There is alot on my mind right now. I'm going to throw out some random thoughts and ideas. First off the basketball program needs to be takin to te next level. To me that means we need to be able to compete in the post season. I hate losing in the first round. We need to get Rahe an extenstion now!! Also we need someone in the post that is as dangerous as Lillard is at the point. We need a good one two punch. We need a tougher schedule like ISU had this year. We need a new jumbotron asap! I think that Rahe needs to now foucus getting to the big dance and winning games each year in the tournament. I hope that next year someone or Rahe can bring in a post player like Lillard. I'm excited for the future of WSU basketball!
 
sounds great minus the isu schedule but a few of em would be nice, espeically if at the dee. #1 is wsu marketing change for next year. we need to focus on improving attendance and selling the bball team; which is an easy product to move if people just see them play.

you dont see anything on campus ever; even during the conf tourney no one had a clue we had big games at the dee and espn was there. that is really sad. if we are relying on the ppak with a few wooden signs then we need big changes.

working on the community is fine; so do it; but students are #1. they used to say it was difficult because the football team was never good. i haven't heard a new excuse yet these past 2 seasons.

2,000 students in a Dee crowd of 5,000 is more beneficial to the future of our basketball team than 7,000 fans and 100 students. Students don't pay but they change the game and the atmostphere.
 
Unfortunately the big sky conference has a hard time recruited legit post players. I agree we need a dangerous post presence, but I dont see us getting one as dangerous as Lillard. I hope I'm wrong. But I agree 100 percent with what WSUfan and CAtCat are saying. I think are schedule should be in between a Utah state cupcake schedule and an Idaho State schedule that would be most beneficial to our team.
 
Thanks catcat.. I did fail to mention that the marketing needs a chance. Someone needs to get the community involved and aware of the basketball team when there are games! I think that this is the area that need to most improvement!!!
 
Forget about getting a high quality post player. It's the Big Sky, for hell sakes. Everyone knows talented bigs are very hard to find and they don't come to play at Big Sky schools. That's why the league is so guard heavy. Just look at the all conference team (four of six on the first team were guards, and it should have been five with Waters). And some of the good bigs in this league would be guards or small forwards at bigger schools. Sorry to say it, but when your best big is Panos, you can't count on the inside game. It's a shooting league, and Weber needs to improve in that area. And for the love of pete, will coach work on breaking the press during the off season. Do you think Cinccy watched the film of the second half of the Montana game?
 
I think a better home schedule with more home games is a must, but until Weber has more $$$ and committed fans, thats not going to happen. I think a few necessary things have to happen to help get more butts in the seats:

1. Create a better atompshere for College basketball at the Dee.

I think the administration is trying to do this with the Jumbo-tron retro-fit which is suppose to happen this summer, however, there are a number of other things that have to happen to improve the atmosphere.
A. Cheerleaders: I liked how the Cheerleaders had the W-S-U flags for the championship and lead the team out onto the floor. Why not do that for every home game? Along with the Cheerleaders have some type of Growl noise to welcome the team onto the floor and excite the fans (Weber did this in 90s).
B. MUSIC: There has got to be better music at the start of the games and during time-outs. Music at the start of half-time is a must. And A bigger/better band that is closer to the floor. It was kinda embarrassing that UNC's band was much louder than Weber's and was half its size.
C. Mascot: Weber needs a mascot who is going to be doing crazy things on the sidelines getting the crowd into the game, actually around at the end of the games. Someone who gets the crowd excited. Weber use to bring the ball in from the roof (funny how USU has copied a lot of the things Weber use to do) with the ROTC.
D. I'd love to see the spotlights used during intros...maybe some fireworks...Who knows.
E. The half-time shows were better, still there is room for improvement. Better games/promotionals during time-outs.
F. SUPPORT TRADITIONS AND CREATE NEW ONES
G. Retire a couple jerseys or numbers. Recognize and bring back former players, coaches, and teams. Get a trophy case that shows the tradition, legacy, and history of Weber State basektball that takes up more floor space. Those cabinents at the Dee just don't work.

2. Students

Its far more important that the Student Body attends the games than the community. The university depends on the student body to become lifelong fans and supporters of Weber State, and it all starts when they are at the institution attending classes. The PPAK has done some things well, but aren't consistent, organized, or determined. WSUSA is an absolute JOKE. There should be some type of huge sign on campus telling students when the football and basketball home games are. Music the week before or the day of games, flyers on cars and being handed out, promotions, tailgates, carnivals, traditions. The student athletes also need to be seen on campus more often. Pep rallies, bon-fires, dances/parties after the games. Having info delivered to the doorms in the classrooms. Have purple outs once in a while where the students get free shirts provided by the institution and area sponsors. MAKE WEBER A TRADITIONAL CAMPUS: i.e. promote tradition.

A. For student attendance to improve above 1000...better student leadership is needed. Leaders who will be accountable and determined. Better organization and cooperation amongst student organizations. Yes, there is PPAK, SAA, WSUSA, SAC, and others (notebly the Greeks that are virtually extinguished) but none of them really work together towards a common goal. The only times they get together to talk about things its usually to late or poorly organized. The meeting at Ligoris was worse than a Joke. There was no reason why the student body shouldn't have known what was going on for the Tourny!! Two WEEKS...and nothing. Text messages, emails, facebook, twitter, and the abovementioned tools weren't even utilized. When you actually do some work and push the message, getting a lot of the various student organizations involved, great things happen.

3. Community:

More efficient ticket office, with better customer service. Marketing campaigns: bus wraps, posters throughout the entire community and out at least a month before the season begins, billboards, radio/tv ads, promotions through area businesses and municipalities, newspapers, institutional communications (alumni newsletter, magazine, etc), Go to area festivals, carnivals, fairs, programs, sporting events, pushing the message. Be involved in the community. The more involved the athletes and the department are in the community the more involved the community will become. The football team that saved Wildcat football is a great example of this theory. People went to the games, because they had met and liked the players and wanted to support certain people. Friends will support their friends.

4. Organization

The university needs more passion, excitment, a better attitude, which will change the negative perception of the student body, community, and alumni.
 
As for the team...hmmm... I think What Weber is gaining compared to what they are losing is exactly where the Cats need to be. I think a pure shooting wing would be nice, also a big man, but we all know thats going to be really tough. However, I really think that Tresnak is going to be a Bachmanesque Big. Stephan averaged 10 for his career was an excellent defender, and rebounder. I think Tresnak will have a better career than the Swissman, but I can see their games being similar.

Getting Justin Hamilton will go a long way to helping Weber to becoming a dominant mid-majo.
 
thats too long to bother to read. paraphrase it in one paragraph. no offense but y not just copy n paste that post. u do it like 2-3 times a yr. LOOOOOL
 
Why didn't you keep your first post? "1000...we never got to 500." Evidently, you did read it...

All you are is a lot of talk.
 
talhadfoursteals said:
I think a better home schedule with more home games is a must, but until Weber has more $$$ and committed fans, thats not going to happen. I think a few necessary things have to happen to help get more butts in the seats:

1. Create a better atompshere for College basketball at the Dee.

I think the administration is trying to do this with the Jumbo-tron retro-fit which is suppose to happen this summer, however, there are a number of other things that have to happen to improve the atmosphere.
A. Cheerleaders: I liked how the Cheerleaders had the W-S-U flags for the championship and lead the team out onto the floor. Why not do that for every home game? Along with the Cheerleaders have some type of Growl noise to welcome the team onto the floor and excite the fans (Weber did this in 90s).
B. MUSIC: There has got to be better music at the start of the games and during time-outs. Music at the start of half-time is a must. And A bigger/better band that is closer to the floor. It was kinda embarrassing that UNC's band was much louder than Weber's and was half its size.
C. Mascot: Weber needs a mascot who is going to be doing crazy things on the sidelines getting the crowd into the game, actually around at the end of the games. Someone who gets the crowd excited. Weber use to bring the ball in from the roof (funny how USU has copied a lot of the things Weber use to do) with the ROTC.
D. I'd love to see the spotlights used during intros...maybe some fireworks...Who knows.
E. The half-time shows were better, still there is room for improvement. Better games/promotionals during time-outs.
F. SUPPORT TRADITIONS AND CREATE NEW ONES
G. Retire a couple jerseys or numbers. Recognize and bring back former players, coaches, and teams. Get a trophy case that shows the tradition, legacy, and history of Weber State basektball that takes up more floor space. Those cabinents at the Dee just don't work.

2. Students

Its far more important that the Student Body attends the games than the community. The university depends on the student body to become lifelong fans and supporters of Weber State, and it all starts when they are at the institution attending classes. The PPAK has done some things well, but aren't consistent, organized, or determined. WSUSA is an absolute JOKE. There should be some type of huge sign on campus telling students when the football and basketball home games are. Music the week before or the day of games, flyers on cars and being handed out, promotions, tailgates, carnivals, traditions. The student athletes also need to be seen on campus more often. Pep rallies, bon-fires, dances/parties after the games. Having info delivered to the doorms in the classrooms. Have purple outs once in a while where the students get free shirts provided by the institution and area sponsors. MAKE WEBER A TRADITIONAL CAMPUS: i.e. promote tradition.

A. For student attendance to improve above 1000...better student leadership is needed. Leaders who will be accountable and determined. Better organization and cooperation amongst student organizations. Yes, there is PPAK, SAA, WSUSA, SAC, and others (notebly the Greeks that are virtually extinguished) but none of them really work together towards a common goal. The only times they get together to talk about things its usually to late or poorly organized. The meeting at Ligoris was worse than a Joke. There was no reason why the student body shouldn't have known what was going on for the Tourny!! Two WEEKS...and nothing. Text messages, emails, facebook, twitter, and the abovementioned tools weren't even utilized. When you actually do some work and push the message, getting a lot of the various student organizations involved, great things happen.

3. Community:

More efficient ticket office, with better customer service. Marketing campaigns: bus wraps, posters throughout the entire community and out at least a month before the season begins, billboards, radio/tv ads, promotions through area businesses and municipalities, newspapers, institutional communications (alumni newsletter, magazine, etc), Go to area festivals, carnivals, fairs, programs, sporting events, pushing the message. Be involved in the community. The more involved the athletes and the department are in the community the more involved the community will become. The football team that saved Wildcat football is a great example of this theory. People went to the games, because they had met and liked the players and wanted to support certain people. Friends will support their friends.

4. Organization

The university needs more passion, excitment, a better attitude, which will change the negative perception of the student body, community, and alumni.
I too am in favor of the Cheerleaders and dancing girls showing us more by wearing less. Wait, was that even an option? I didnt really read this novel.
 
last seasons schedule included santa barbera, utah state,las vegas, byu, all ncaa teams. not to mention utah,seattle,cal fullerton and a couple other decent teams.do some of you guys want duke and north carolina thrown in there too? every program has a couple of cupcake games on their schedule,thats not webers problem.they need to start winning some of these pre-conference games before any talk of upgrading their schedule further.
 

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