superhornet
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...and I really don't care what anyone thinks.
If I'm the AD, we have a new HC RIGHT NOW, and his name is Big Cat....
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If I'm the AD, we have a new HC RIGHT NOW, and his name is Big Cat....
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OK, I'm gonna just say it...
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Green Laser
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Super Hornet said:
You think our defense is bad now, just wait to Volek and staff return!
UniversityGardens
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I understand your frustration. It seems like the program has leveled off. Firing a coach mid-season would set a bad precedent for any future coach considering Sac State not to mention football recruits.
The SJSU game showed that Sac State has a long way to go. But the program has also come a long way. It will take finding a new coach at the end of the season similar to Gould at Davis to get this program to the next level.
The SJSU game showed that Sac State has a long way to go. But the program has also come a long way. It will take finding a new coach at the end of the season similar to Gould at Davis to get this program to the next level.
You mean we don’t already know that a Lou Biaz defense is worse than Parkers? Say it ain’t so. :lol: :roll:Green Laser said:
I agree with H25. I think Sperbeck has peaked, and it doesn’t look like he will be the guy to get us over the hump (although the season is still young). The other side of the coin is we all know Wanless will just run out another coach from the JC ranks so unless there is a chance at hiring a coach with some D1 background, what is the point of making a coaching change? We won’t see change unless the wheels completely fall off, and this team is too talented to post a 3 wins or less type of season...right? :|
Green Laser
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UniversityGardens said:
I think you may have misunderstood the tone of this thread. Nobody is seriously calling for a immediate coaching change. IMO there will be no coaching change at the end of season either baring a major collapse.
About Gould he has already taken the dungpilers to the next level, 0-3 a "level" they have not been to since 1965. I look forward to watching them hit the next level, 0-4 this week! I guess that's what happens when you experiment with hiring a first time head coach and give him a five year contract!
It's great to be a Hornet!
superhornet
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OK. I was frustrated and was just venting. I don't like mid-season firings at all.
FWIW, I love Lou Baiz like a brother, but I'm not going to smack you guys for hating on him. I don't necessarily want a return of Bruce Pielstick (though he HAS gotten easier to talk to in the years since he wouldn't let me see the field). But I think that Volek's enthusiasm (if he could be convinced to find other coordinators, such as Angus McClure or even completely outside the program) would be a great way to rally fans to games. A younger guy like Mike Canales at North Texas would be awesome, too.
But you guys are right. The season is most certainly NOT over yet, and there is plenty of time to turn it around, though the P-word has likely gone by the boards by now. I'm just REALLY frustrated right now, having been crazy rabid for beating FBS schools and watching us get embarrassed instead, and not only by THOSE teams, but by a D-II/NAIA crossover as well.
FWIW, I love Lou Baiz like a brother, but I'm not going to smack you guys for hating on him. I don't necessarily want a return of Bruce Pielstick (though he HAS gotten easier to talk to in the years since he wouldn't let me see the field). But I think that Volek's enthusiasm (if he could be convinced to find other coordinators, such as Angus McClure or even completely outside the program) would be a great way to rally fans to games. A younger guy like Mike Canales at North Texas would be awesome, too.
But you guys are right. The season is most certainly NOT over yet, and there is plenty of time to turn it around, though the P-word has likely gone by the boards by now. I'm just REALLY frustrated right now, having been crazy rabid for beating FBS schools and watching us get embarrassed instead, and not only by THOSE teams, but by a D-II/NAIA crossover as well.
HornetHope
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Super Hornet said:
SH we have had quite a few good FBS players transfer over the years that never got on the field, see my Sunday post. You are in very good company, current roster included. Channel that anger into an"I Never Got on the Field at Sacramento State even Though I was Better Than the Guy in Front of Me" support group, because you are only going to become more angry when the announcement comes out with a 5 yr extension for Sperbeck. He has 2 FBS wins over PAC 12, we will never get rid of him. You will hear buzz words like brought stability(which means he hovers between 5-6 and 6-5 annually), Great Leader(which means he does not complain about his salary), teaches discipline (which means he will not put a new superior player on the field, because he never did his time as a backup)
superhornet
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I'm NOT saying Pielstick made the wrong decision in my case. I've since found out I had no business trying to play ANY level of college football, much less D-I. But that doesn't make the sting of actually having a guy say no hurt any less.
As far as Sperbeck goes, sure, he's a TON better than Mooshagian. I'm just not sure he's better than Volek (though I do admit that Volek's legacy is tightly tied to one Charles Roberts). Oregon, Nevada, and Stanford both had legendary coaches return after they left, and while Volek is no Mattos (not even close), I wouldn't mind seeing him come back...so long as he hires different coordinators, particularly on offense.
As far as Sperbeck goes, sure, he's a TON better than Mooshagian. I'm just not sure he's better than Volek (though I do admit that Volek's legacy is tightly tied to one Charles Roberts). Oregon, Nevada, and Stanford both had legendary coaches return after they left, and while Volek is no Mattos (not even close), I wouldn't mind seeing him come back...so long as he hires different coordinators, particularly on offense.
The issue is getting this program over the hump. Sperbeck built a solid foundation on which a successful program can continue to be built. I don't consider any of the past coaches (who have the ability to return to coaching) to have what it takes to take this program to the next level. The last thing I want to see is Sperbeck replaced (I too don't think it will happen anytime soon) with a retread who has not shown that they are capable of installing/continuing a winning tradition.
UniversityGardens
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It's not for me to "anoint" any coach. My point is that Davis made a quality hire in Ron Gould who will, in time, turn things around at Davis. It won't happen this year and probably not next year. But given time Gould will recruit the caliber of players, where he has a proven track record, to get Davis to the next level.
Green Laser
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UniversityGardens said:
He has no track record at all as a head coach. He does have a track record as a recruiter and as a a position coach, which often does not translate into being a good head coach. You also have to realize that he was passed over by the new Cal coach who could have retained him. He apparently was also second choice after Hawkins backed out. Head coaches are responsible for overseeing and building the entire program, a totally different skill set than a assistant coach.
At Sac State we have had our share of first time head coaches falling on their faces.
UniversityGardens
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Chip Kelly had zero head coaching experience before taking over the reigns in Oregon. Gould has the collegiate experience and skill sets to be a very successful HC. But time will tell.
Kelly was a coordinator for almost a decade between New Hampshire and Oregon before taking over the reins as HC in 2009.UniversityGardens said:
Gould on the other hand: “From 1997-2007, he was the running back coach before being elevated to associate head coach in 2008. He added running game coordinator duties beginning in 2011.”
Not sure what duties fall under responsibilities of associate HC but he hasn’t been coordinating offenses anywhere near the level or amount of time Kelly was prior to his promotion. But hey, go ahead and anoint Gould for things he will do later down the line.
Green Laser
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SDHornet said:
SD I think "associate head coach" usually refers to a position between the HC and rest of the assistants. There might be some administrative duties attached but I'm not sure about decision making.
You are right about coordinators having a far better chance of successfully making the jump to HC than position coaches. We only have to look back to Mooshagian, great experience as a position coach, hired from the Bengals, clueless and overwhelmed as HC.
UniversityGardens
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I will. He is a quality hire for a program (UC Davis) that was in desperate need of one.
