Playoff committee is a joke...

[LDopaPDX]

... 'nuff said.

I have no problem with being a 3 seed; it's about right.

But c'mon, they bent over backward to make sure Montana and North Dakota State play each other in the next round. How on Earth does the EIGHT seed get the winner of Bethune-Cookman and Coastal Carolina, likely the third worst of all first round pairings?

How does the THREE seed get the South Dakota State and Northern Arizona winner, likely the BEST of all first round pairings?

Here's the real difference between the 2 and 3 seed, Eastern Illinois gets the Butler / Tennessee State winner; Eastern Washington gets NAU or South Dakota State. That is a massive, dramatic difference in opponent. I cannot understand what the committee logic is in making those kind of pairings, and they weren't challenged on it at all during the broadcast.

 

[clawman1]

... 'nuff said.

I have no problem with being a 3 seed; it's about right.

But c'mon, they bent over backward to make sure Montana and North Dakota State play each other in the next round. How on Earth does the EIGHT seed get the winner of Bethune-Cookman and Coastal Carolina, likely the third worst of all first round pairings?

How does the THREE seed get the South Dakota State and Northern Arizona winner, likely the BEST of all first round pairings?

Here's the real difference between the 2 and 3 seed, Eastern Illinois gets the Butler / Tennessee State winner; Eastern Washington gets NAU or South Dakota State. That is a massive, dramatic difference in opponent. I cannot understand what the committee logic is in making those kind of pairings, and they weren't challenged on it at all during the broadcast.

Whether is be sports or politics, challenged and reporting do not go together!

 

[LDopaPDX]

... 'nuff said.

I have no problem with being a 3 seed; it's about right.

But c'mon, they bent over backward to make sure Montana and North Dakota State play each other in the next round. How on Earth does the EIGHT seed get the winner of Bethune-Cookman and Coastal Carolina, likely the third worst of all first round pairings?

How does the THREE seed get the South Dakota State and Northern Arizona winner, likely the BEST of all first round pairings?

Here's the real difference between the 2 and 3 seed, Eastern Illinois gets the Butler / Tennessee State winner; Eastern Washington gets NAU or South Dakota State. That is a massive, dramatic difference in opponent. I cannot understand what the committee logic is in making those kind of pairings, and they weren't challenged on it at all during the broadcast.

Whether is be sports or politics, challenged and reporting do not go together!

No shit, but this is so glaringly obvious it's hard to avoid. I think we'll beat whoever comes out of that NAU / South Dakota State game, but c'mon, comparing that winner to Samford or Sacred Heart or Butler or some of the other garbage that'll make it to the second round is ridiculous. It was like no logic was utilized other than throwing some matchups together and pairing them with some other matchups.

 

[DefendtheRed]

More troubling than the draws is the very fact that Montana earned a seed at all. Northern Arizona, anyone?

 

[luckyintheorder]

Fantastic BSC Championship and season! Glad for the bye and extra time to get healthy.

"Just bitching" to follow.

Does seem like there was no qualitative evaluation just a bunch of comparative BS. In the case of Montana's possible draw they qualitatively have a higher SRS rating avg. than the EWU draw for second round (last weeks SRS data)

NDSU is drawing from two possible second place teams in their conference the same as Eastern. Hard to say that the NDSU second round matchup of Furman/S. Car St is on par with NAU/SDSU as only Furman beat any quality teams. S. Car St is MEAC and beat no one. Chattanooga got the shaft on being left out for them. Southland SELA also has a tough road. Is the fact NDSU fans bought all the tickets in Frisco paying dividends?

How did the OVC get 3 teams?
SoCon only gets 2?
MEAC?

It is worth noting that the committee is made up of career AD's/politicians? I think they can justify any of these decisions by obfuscating the true value of teams with meaningless comparison's, so EWU is stuck with a very challenging second round matchup regardless of who wins. Salve the wound by knowing these teams are looking at EWU and saying "we got to play EWU, holy crap".

Enjoy the games after Thanksgiving and get ready to "let 'er rip" Dec 7th!

 

[LDopaPDX]

More troubling than the draws is the very fact that Montana earned a seed at all. Northern Arizona, anyone?

NAU has a great argument at deserving a seed, and beyond that, they have a great argument for going to somewhere less than the #3 overall seed if they win their first game. At the very least, one would have to say NAU was the first or second best non-seeded team, and therefore, should have been paired with the 7 or 8 seed following a win in the first round.

At least, that's what logic would dictate. But very little logic appears to have been used with these pairings.

The only reason I can see for not including NAU among the seeds is that they sorta screwed themselves by playing 11 when everyone else played 12. I still think they should be above the Griz, but I'm sure that is the committee's criteria on that one. But sending them to the #3 seed shows utter disrespect for what they accomplished. It also makes us have a harder hill to climb when we could be playing some total wannabe scrub in the second round instead of a team with a legit chance to make some noise.

 

[bobcat92]

You guys got a bad placement in the bracket. SDSU VS NAU and McNeese State. At least you don't have SHSU to play. Would have thought you guys would get the winner of CC and BC.

I think you guys are right about NAU. They should have played one more game but the loss to MSU didn't help the cause either.

I am curios to see how SUU does against SHSU.

Good luck in the playoffs. I will be rooting for you guys.

 

[clawman1]

:notworthy:

You guys got a bad placement in the bracket. SDSU VS NAU and McNeese State. At least you don't have SHSU to play. Would have thought you guys would get the winner of CC and BC.

I think you guys are right about NAU. They should have played one more game but the loss to MSU didn't help the cause either.

I am curios to see how SUU does against SHSU.

Good luck in the playoffs. I will be rooting for you guys.

If you are not aware SHSU has lost their starting QB, Bell, to a season ending injury thus the late season decline.
SUU by 10

 

[Nickels]

:notworthy:

You guys got a bad placement in the bracket. SDSU VS NAU and McNeese State. At least you don't have SHSU to play. Would have thought you guys would get the winner of CC and BC.

I think you guys are right about NAU. They should have played one more game but the loss to MSU didn't help the cause either.

I am curios to see how SUU does against SHSU.

Good luck in the playoffs. I will be rooting for you guys.

If you are not aware SHSU has lost their starting QB, Bell, to a season ending injury thus the late season decline.
SUU by 10

Incorrect. Bell was injured during the SELA game, came back in the 2nd half of the UCA game, played his ass off, and made it a game. He will be under center this Saturday.

 

[marceagfan5]

We played Wagner last year while NDSU played their rival SDSU, so we have caught some breaks too...

I think it's tough to seed and place the western teams because of the lack of teams. It was almost a given that the Griz were headed to NDSU and the NAU was coming to Cheney.

If we can't win Our first game we don't belong in the playoffs, no matter who we play.

We get a buy, avoid shsu, sela, and NDSU, with a couple home games to boot. We are going to be just fine!

 

[GoldenEagle]

More troubling than the draws is the very fact that Montana earned a seed at all. Northern Arizona, anyone?

NAU has a great argument at deserving a seed, and beyond that, they have a great argument for going to somewhere less than the #3 overall seed if they win their first game. At the very least, one would have to say NAU was the first or second best non-seeded team, and therefore, should have been paired with the 7 or 8 seed following a win in the first round.

At least, that's what logic would dictate. But very little logic appears to have been used with these pairings.

The only reason I can see for not including NAU among the seeds is that they sorta screwed themselves by playing 11 when everyone else played 12. I still think they should be above the Griz, but I'm sure that is the committee's criteria on that one. But sending them to the #3 seed shows utter disrespect for what they accomplished. It also makes us have a harder hill to climb when we could be playing some total wannabe scrub in the second round instead of a team with a legit chance to make some noise.

I can see NAU only playing 11 games may have hurt them in the committee's decision to not award them a seed. However, Montana realistically only played eleven games because their 12th game was Oklahoma Panhandle State. Couple that with no FBS opponent and a weak non-conference schedule including 4-8 App State and IMO no way Montana should be seeded. Even If Montana survives the second round, they will get trucked in Fargo.

 

[luckyintheorder]

We played Wagner last year while NDSU played their rival SDSU, so we have caught some breaks too...

I think it's tough to seed and place the western teams because of the lack of teams. It was almost a given that the Griz were headed to NDSU and the NAU was coming to Cheney.

If we can't win Our first game we don't belong in the playoffs, no matter who we play.

We get a buy, avoid shsu, sela, and NDSU, with a couple home games to boot. We are going to be just fine!

+1 Completely agree. Get healthy and then take care of business Dec 7th.

 

[Screamin_Eagle174]

:notworthy:

You guys got a bad placement in the bracket. SDSU VS NAU and McNeese State. At least you don't have SHSU to play. Would have thought you guys would get the winner of CC and BC.

I think you guys are right about NAU. They should have played one more game but the loss to MSU didn't help the cause either.

I am curios to see how SUU does against SHSU.

Good luck in the playoffs. I will be rooting for you guys.

If you are not aware SHSU has lost their starting QB, Bell, to a season ending injury thus the late season decline.
SUU by 10

Incorrect. Bell was injured during the SELA game, came back in the 2nd half of the UCA game, played his ass off, and made it a little less embarrassing. He will be under center this Saturday for a few series until SUU's stout D takes him out of the game for good, because the coaches let him come back too early.

Welcome, bareskat!

 

[Nickels]

We both know all 6 EWU fans were relieved Sammy was put on the other side of the bracket.

I'm not too concerned about a team that only put 10 points up against EWU's joke of a D.

 

[GoldenEagle]

We both know all 6 EWU fans were relieved Sammy was put on the other side of the bracket.

I'm not too concerned about a team that only put 10 points up against EWU's joke of a D.

The problem with the SHSU option offense is that it burns skilled players up. Eastern played SHSU early this year when Tim Flanders was relatively fresh and not injured. Flanders is a great running back but he has carried the SHSU team for four years now. Not much left in the tank for Flanders for the latter part of this season. Also your injured quarterback Bell has consistently got the crap kick out of him over the years (watch what NDSU did to him last year). My point to you Nickels is that I think the Southern Utah defense will finish your team’s season because your skill players are basically burned up.

Good luck next year when you visit the inferno after all of your offensive production graduates this year.

 

[Screamin_Eagle174]

We both know all 6 EWU fans were relieved Sammy was put on the other side of the bracket.

I'm not too concerned about a team that only put 10 points up against EWU's joke of a D.

Relieved? I was disappointed we didn't get a cupcake like SUU did... hell SUU was one of the last teams in, whereas EWU is a #3 seed. WE DESERVE A CUPCAKE TOO! :evil: :grizo1: