Born2BleedPurpleGuy
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Yes indeed... :rockon: @Chattanooga, Saturday. GOOOOO EILDCATS!
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PLAYOFFS! YES!
- Thread starter Born2BleedPurpleGuy
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Chattanooga looked pretty good against Alabama yesterday on TV! Weber will have to play its best game of the season by far, to be in this game. Go Cats!! It is good to see the team make the playoffs for the first time in such a long time. Congratulations to Hill and his coaches, and to the team in taking an important step forward again this year. They have brought us a long way in only three years. I will not be disappointed if they lose this game, only would be if they didn't come to play and didn't represent the school well.
Here's hoping that the next couple of years we will continue our progress and lead us deep into the playoffs and maybe even a championship of the Sky and the FCS! Gotta get a top-notch QB if it is going to happen. One who can step in and play and make a difference immediately... Come on coaches show us that QB is important; that you can source, recognize and successfully recruit this guy!
Here's hoping that the next couple of years we will continue our progress and lead us deep into the playoffs and maybe even a championship of the Sky and the FCS! Gotta get a top-notch QB if it is going to happen. One who can step in and play and make a difference immediately... Come on coaches show us that QB is important; that you can source, recognize and successfully recruit this guy!
Appears that most, if not all 1st round games will be streamed on ESPN3...Wildcats vs. Mocs is at 12N Saturday.
Hope the Wildcats make a good showing, win or lose, this is definitely a good step forward for a program that was beleaguered a few years back. Congratulations to the Coaches & Players...this is especially sweet for the seniors!
:rockon: :thumb:
Hope the Wildcats make a good showing, win or lose, this is definitely a good step forward for a program that was beleaguered a few years back. Congratulations to the Coaches & Players...this is especially sweet for the seniors!
:rockon: :thumb:
purplehaze1
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Yes! I live in Tennessee so I'll be there wearin' purple and cheerin' on our Wildcats.
Longtimecat
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:wtf: :shocking: :shocking:baller said:
SWeberCat02
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Think he meant BoveeWILDCAT said:
I too would have liked to see a home game, but you also got to look at the pairings
UND and Eastern didn't need to bid for a home game cause they were seeded and will play at home unless playing a higher seeded team.
Cal Poly is playing San Diego, a small private Roman Catholic school. It's not like USD could have spent the money to get Cal Poly at home.
Chattanooga average around 9,494 fans per game, obviously not a whole lot more that the 8,734 we averaged. But the committee is also going to look at recent success. Chatty has been to the playoffs 3 years in a row (probably should have been 4) and Weber hasn't been in the playoffs since 2009. Chatty could probably afford to spend more on a home game than Weber.
If you want to be the best you gotta beat the best. Lets start by beating a very good Mocs team on Saturday on the road.
Interesting tidbit, of all the teams that will be traveling this Saturday Weber State will be traveling the farthest. It is 1,751 miles from Ogden Utah to Chattanooga Tennessee. The next longest trip this Saturday is the 747 miles Samford will be traveling to get to Youngstown State.
UND and Eastern didn't need to bid for a home game cause they were seeded and will play at home unless playing a higher seeded team.
Cal Poly is playing San Diego, a small private Roman Catholic school. It's not like USD could have spent the money to get Cal Poly at home.
Chattanooga average around 9,494 fans per game, obviously not a whole lot more that the 8,734 we averaged. But the committee is also going to look at recent success. Chatty has been to the playoffs 3 years in a row (probably should have been 4) and Weber hasn't been in the playoffs since 2009. Chatty could probably afford to spend more on a home game than Weber.
If you want to be the best you gotta beat the best. Lets start by beating a very good Mocs team on Saturday on the road.
Interesting tidbit, of all the teams that will be traveling this Saturday Weber State will be traveling the farthest. It is 1,751 miles from Ogden Utah to Chattanooga Tennessee. The next longest trip this Saturday is the 747 miles Samford will be traveling to get to Youngstown State.
https://twitter.com/weberstatefb/status/800382231160098816/video/1
Team's reaction to being selected
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Team's reaction to being selected
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Sweet! Not a whole lot of us fans were expecting this kind of excitement & buzz a couple of weeks ago. It's special & adds an extra spark to the program. Well deserved, what with the adversity & challenges that visited coaches & players, even at the beginning of the season, so this fan says :clap: .
Hoping for a competitive game, it's going to be a tough challenge, but have some fun as you represent! :thumb:
Hoping for a competitive game, it's going to be a tough challenge, but have some fun as you represent! :thumb:
GO CATS!!! Awesome! I think we all owe the Big Sky staff for this one. They really worked their butts off getting us into the playoffs. Now...lets go to Chattanooga and leave everything on the field. I'm expecting our team to play their best game of the season!
Wildcat, I hate to say this, but you are dead wrong. It isn't about Chattanooga at all, but Weber and Cal Poly. It was all about the bid between the two conference mates. We put in the absolute minimum, I believe 35K and Cal Poly was willing to bid a lot more. It isn't like Cal Poly has more fans at their games than us, it is the fact that they make money off of their games and they have more money to spend on something like this. Our fans are mostly there because they got a waiver or a free ticket.
Here is the rub...Cal Poly took 4th, Weber beat them in the head to head, and they have ALREADY played USD on Sept 10, in SLO (beating USD 38-10). To me, it isn't right that they get a home game and they get to play that home game against a team they already beat. However, Cal Poly did win 2 out of 3 OOC games (beating a seeded team in the process South Dakota State) and were ranked all season. Weber's biggest wins of the season were against SUU and yes, Cal Poly...ending the season ranked 25th and being 3rd in the conference. But the committee doesn't care. None of that matters in deciding the opening round. It is mostly about money. Cal Poly has done a much better job of making money and having a committed fan base. They were able to out bid us.
Wildcat, I hate to say this, but you are dead wrong. It isn't about Chattanooga at all, but Weber and Cal Poly. It was all about the bid between the two conference mates. We put in the absolute minimum, I believe 35K and Cal Poly was willing to bid a lot more. It isn't like Cal Poly has more fans at their games than us, it is the fact that they make money off of their games and they have more money to spend on something like this. Our fans are mostly there because they got a waiver or a free ticket.
Here is the rub...Cal Poly took 4th, Weber beat them in the head to head, and they have ALREADY played USD on Sept 10, in SLO (beating USD 38-10). To me, it isn't right that they get a home game and they get to play that home game against a team they already beat. However, Cal Poly did win 2 out of 3 OOC games (beating a seeded team in the process South Dakota State) and were ranked all season. Weber's biggest wins of the season were against SUU and yes, Cal Poly...ending the season ranked 25th and being 3rd in the conference. But the committee doesn't care. None of that matters in deciding the opening round. It is mostly about money. Cal Poly has done a much better job of making money and having a committed fan base. They were able to out bid us.
talhadfoursteals said:
We didn't bid against Cal Poly, the committee already said that they were going to try to avoid regionalizing the SEEDED teams but not the at large bids.
A. Cal Poly was always going to play San Diego because of how close they are to each other and it's a cheap bus trip.
B. They were not going to play us because they said they would avoid "same conference match ups" unless they did not play during the season. That's why there was talk about Weber playing @ Montana in the first round.
C. And they were not going to send San Diego to Ogden and then send Cal Poly across the entire nation or send someone from across the nation to POLY. Cal Poly got San Diego because of regionalization. That left just us, the only other team west of North Dakota in the playoffs, (excluding Eastern). All the other teams close to Weber geographically speaking are seeded and have a first round bye. So they were going to send either us somewhere east or someone else west.
Cal Poly outbid San Diego, (if San Diego bid at all) not us. We were never in a "bidding war" with Poly. We got outbid by the team that they paired us with, Chattanooga. ANd it was probably because they make more money on football and could afford to pay more.
Does it suck that the 4th place Poly team got a home game and 3rd place Weber is on the road? Yeah it sucks big time, but that's the way it goes in NCAA sports. Should Bovee have taken a chance and bid really high for a home game and risk losing a ton of money because 5K or less show up to the game? No. Lets keep having winning seasons, try to increase the fan base and maybe within the next few years we can host a game.
No offense taken Tal, but I don't think I was wrong at all. :thumb:
WILDCAT said:
You've spent a lot of time on the FCS forum. That's fine. Believe what you want. It was Weber vs. Poly for the home game to face San Diego. They out bid us. I never mentioned Poly as the possible opponent. San Diego was the opponent both wanted. They are from the Pioneer and would be an easier path to a second round game. Besides Poly has already played San Diego this season. Weird they'd let them play again in the 1st round. Came down to Polys bid vs. Weber's. In this case regionalization doesn't matter. NCAA foots the bill so travel doesn't matter. Makes little sense to give Poly a home game because of travel when you are sending a team from Ogden across country anyway. It's cheap to get USD to either Ogden or SLO.
talhadfoursteals said:
A. I admit that I do partake rather often on the championship subdivision forum. But that's not where I got my information at all.
https://thesportsarsenal.com/2016/11/07/the-fcs-playoffs-a-primer/
Now take a look at the pairings in the first round
Lehigh @ New Hampshire - 117 miles apart
Charleston Southern @ Wofford- 198 miles apart
North Carolina A&T @ Richmond- 202 miles apart
St. Francis @ Villanova- 234 miles apart
San Diego @ Cal Poly- 312 miles apart
Illinois State @ Central Arkansas- 513 miles apart
Samford @ Youngstown State- 747 miles apart
Weber State @ Chattanooga- 1,751 miles apart
See the trend? The way I see it there are AT LEAST only two true flights on that list (maybe 3), the rest are very "busable"
B. Of course San Diego was the team both schools wanted, but the committee pairs the non seeded teams by their geographic proximity, not by who wants who.
C. From the 2nd quote I put up
"The committee also has the license to avoid matchups in the first round for teams that played during the regular season in a non-conference game, PROVIDING that change doesn’t result in an additional charter flight"
San Diego would most likely fly into SLC or Ogden, sending San Diego to Utah would create an additional charter flight for wherever they send Poly. Plus the only teams they said they were going to avoid matching up were CONFERENCE MATES who played during the regular season.
D. DO you even know the NCAA? Yes they do foot the bill and being the NCAA they are going to be AS CHEAP AS POSSIBLE.
E. Is it cheaper for them to send Poly from the L.A. Airport to Chattanooga or is it cheaper to send Weber State out of SLC to Chattanooga? Doesn't matter cause it would be cheaper to BUS San Diego to Poly than it would be to Fly Poly to ANYWHERE. Also take into account that if you took all the seeded teams out, Cal Poly and San Diego, the closest remaining team in the FCS playoff bracket to Weber is Illinois State at 1,362 miles away. The closest team to Poly aside from the seeded teams, San Diego and Weber is Central Arkansas at 1,786 miles away, the rest are over 2,000 miles away. Geographically it makes sense to send Weber, not Poly.
F Yes it is cheap to get San Diego to either Poly or Weber, but again I'm sure a 5 hour Bus drive to Poly is cheaper than a charter flight and additional bus fees (for 60+ players and coaches) to Ogden or SLC.
So again, unless you have proof, UNDENIABLE proof that what you say actually happened then I'll retract what I said. Until then I am going to go with the facts that I have read. Cal Poly missing the playoffs was the only way Weber was going to get San Diego at home.
PurpleBlood
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I will second what was just said. The NCAA 1st matches up teams based on geography, then openes the sealed bids to see who is travel where. We got out bid by Chattanooga!
WILDCAT said:
Wildcat...this all makes sense and I applaud you for your efforts. Excellent post!! And to be truthful I agree with you completely; especially on how cheap the NCAA is :lol: (I'm sorry for being a jerk and saying you are "dead wrong," that statement would only cause an angry reaction) except one point, who outbid whom. You have a rational argument, but just believe me when I say, it all came down to who bid more between Poly and us. :thumb: It wasn't a bid between Weber and Chatty. They were going to get a home game all along. But yes, Poly beating UNCO, sealed our fate. We were going to travel. Poly's bid was substantially more than ours. Weber's had to be substantial and it wasn't. My shock was that we are traveling cross country. Not the first time, right? I hope our game goes better than the one we played against William and Mary in 09.
SWWeatherCat
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That game against the She-Bills was frustrating, I don't believe Weber played to their potential.
talhadfoursteals said:
Tal, like I said in my first rebuttal post I took no offense to what you said and was not mad.
However I still don't think hosting San Diego ever came down to us or Cal Poly, it came down to geography. And again unless you can offer me proof on the contrary I am going to continue to think that. :thumb:
Im actually not surprised that Weber is traveling cross country considering every at large/non seeded team (except you know Weber, Poly, and Diego) is EAST of the Mississippi or in Arkansas
And Im with you on hoping Weber plays better this time around, our last trip to the southeast was hard to watch.......very hard to watch.
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