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PSU trouble (x-post from eGriz's BWahlberg)

Rjones61

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BWahlberg said:
:? :? :?

http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/oregonian/john_canzano/index.ssf/2014/09/canzano_portland_state_fractur.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

let's solve the "Case of the Missing $20,000," because right now, that little mystery has the chronically fractured and typically divided university that operates on the Park blocks even further fragmented

this is a misdirection play.. we had 185 yards in penalties last week, we're undisciplined... the fact that we're trying to air dirty laundry about a golf tournament is embarrassing

The bottom line: For the first time since Burton's first season the Vikings didn't stay in a hotel for the opener. PSU has decided it can't afford to stay more than one night in Pullman this week, too, and so they'll bus over Friday, play the game against the Pac-12 Cougars on Saturday, then board the buses immediately after the game and return five hours back to Portland. Also, later in the season, for a game against Cal Poly, the Vikings won't fly into San Luis Obispo as they traditionally have. Rather, they'll fly to San Jose and bus three hours to the game to save money.

Said Burton: "We're on our own."

Said Hersh: "Not only am I not buying it, there's words you can't print. If our football program can't figure out how to house players, it's time to take the keys away from those people."

Earlier Thursday things were equally tense in a private meeting of former PSU players that Hersh called in the gymnasium at the Stott Center without Burton being informed.

Ticket allocation has already been a touchy topic among Vikings coaches and alumni. Hersh has quibbled with Burton's coaching staff over the number of comped tickets that assistants should be allowed for their families. The two men spent part of last Saturday --- Vikings game day --- emailing back and forth on the issue

Burton's team went 6-6 last season, and he's 19-27 in four-plus seasons at PSU. Hersh spent a portion of the meeting with ex-players, according to those present, fanning the flames about Burton's uncertain future. At one point, Hersh said he was aware of something about Burton's future, but couldn't say more
 
I live in the area and that's not the latest problem. They sold 809 tickets to their game against Northern Arizona on Saturday. 700 of those tickets were bought by NAU. I went to the Eastern game in 2012 and was amazed at how empty the stadium was. I'm pretty sure that visiting fans always outnumber PSU fans.

Portland State is facing a lot of problems and there's talk that football may be gone within five years.
 
Adding to what 360 said... this is the article in the Oregonian today:

http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/oregonian/john_canzano/index.ssf/2014/10/canzano_guess_which_local_coll.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The last time Eastern played there, the announced crowd was something like 5,500. Eastern must've had 4-5x the number of fans the Vikings did.
 
WOW I didn't think it could be worse than that 1st article, but the article is a golden ticket for recruiting against PSU in football.
Conversation with coach to recruit: "So you are thinking about Portland State are you?"
Student Athlete: "Yes Sir."
C: "You hear they might not have a program in a couple of years?"
SA: "Where did you hear that?"
End game for PSU

That sucks because I was really enjoying our "rivalry" with them those last two games we played them were classics!

Someone needs to buy that clown out of that contract and move the games back on campus. 809 tickets is a JOKE!
 
Kinda puts things into perspective. What's difficult to fathom is how a school twice as big as Eastern (roughly 26k + vs 13k +) can be so strapped.
 
EWU98 said:
WOW I didn't think it could be worse than that 1st article, but the article is a golden ticket for recruiting against PSU in football.
Conversation with coach to recruit: "So you are thinking about Portland State are you?"
Student Athlete: "Yes Sir."
C: "You hear they might not have a program in a couple of years?"
SA: "Where did you hear that?"
End game for PSU

That sucks because I was really enjoying our "rivalry" with them those last two games we played them were classics!

Someone needs to buy that clown out of that contract and move the games back on campus. 809 tickets is a JOKE!


David Hersh is a hack and total dipshit. Burton isn't great, but Hersh is a whole different level of awful. They don't have a facility on campus, but JELD-WEN Field is only a few blocks... and that's where they play today. Pokey Allen used to routinely draw 12-15,000 per game there when PSU was a good D-II program. The bottom line is fans just don't hang around a losing program.
 
LDopaPDX said:
EWU98 said:
WOW I didn't think it could be worse than that 1st article, but the article is a golden ticket for recruiting against PSU in football.
Conversation with coach to recruit: "So you are thinking about Portland State are you?"
Student Athlete: "Yes Sir."
C: "You hear they might not have a program in a couple of years?"
SA: "Where did you hear that?"
End game for PSU

That sucks because I was really enjoying our "rivalry" with them those last two games we played them were classics!

Someone needs to buy that clown out of that contract and move the games back on campus. 809 tickets is a JOKE!


David Hersh is a hack and total dipshit. Burton isn't great, but Hersh is a whole different level of awful. They don't have a facility on campus, but JELD-WEN Field is only a few blocks... and that's where they play today. Pokey Allen used to routinely draw 12-15,000 per game there when PSU was a good D-II program. The bottom line is fans just don't hang around a losing program.
Then move it back to JELD-WEN Field . . .what good is an empty campus.
I totally agree with you on the losing program. There are just too many options/entertainment to waste your time and money on if the product just is not that good.
It's just sad too see especially since they seemed to be turning the corner with their players and program . . .now the death watch has begun! :ohno: :crybaby:
 
LDopaPDX said:
EWU98 said:
WOW I didn't think it could be worse than that 1st article, but the article is a golden ticket for recruiting against PSU in football.
Conversation with coach to recruit: "So you are thinking about Portland State are you?"
Student Athlete: "Yes Sir."
C: "You hear they might not have a program in a couple of years?"
SA: "Where did you hear that?"
End game for PSU

That sucks because I was really enjoying our "rivalry" with them those last two games we played them were classics!

Someone needs to buy that clown out of that contract and move the games back on campus. 809 tickets is a JOKE!


David Hersh is a hack and total dipshit. Burton isn't great, but Hersh is a whole different level of awful. They don't have a facility on campus, but JELD-WEN Field is only a few blocks... and that's where they play today. Pokey Allen used to routinely draw 12-15,000 per game there when PSU was a good D-II program. The bottom line is fans just don't hang around a losing program.

Oregon and OSU were also considerably worse during the Allen days, which probably had much to do with it. Winning would certainly help out some, but damn...
 
I read both story's and most of the reader comments and all I can say is HOW SAD! Highest college enrolment in the state and they can't make it work, the administration is disinterested and they are stuck in that downtown stadium with no parking. So much potential being wasted.

So much of college football is atmosphere! When Husky stadium was being remodeled and the Huskies had to play in the clink (Seahawks stadium) I went to two games there and what a drag! Eagle fans, you don't know how good you have it! By no means is Husky stadium easy to get to and parking can be a challenge but its all doable and a lot of the area is residential. Going to a Husky game at the clink in downtown Seattle sucks! Forget for a second I'm talking Huskies and picture you're going to a Eagles game.
You drive 45 min. to downtown and you're by the stadium and parking is 60$ to park in some business parking lot. You drive South looking for something cheaper and 30$ is the cheapest you see and now you are at least 3/4 of a mile from the stadium and don't forget this is ALL dirty industrial/commercial area. A small business that has 18 parking spaces during the week and they are cramming 25+ cars in there bumper to bumper and no room to tailgate. You see a sign for 25$ and you hang a quick right and all it is, is a side alley. Oh well this will do, there is a open spot next to the dumpster. Open the hatchback and break out the sandwiches and a beer. This is real nice, empty wine bottles laying around from all the bums that migrate through the area. Well I need not go on, and don't forget this is where the world champion Seahawks play! So don't forget Eagle fans, even with the high school east side bleachers you have a great thing going, your glass is half full and not half empty and your game day experience is a 9 out of 10!

Now for those poor Vikings down there in the Rose city. I see a lot similarities there as I did going to the Clink for a Husky game. I don't know if moving their games back to their campus is a real possibility but playing off campus in someone else's stadium would suck! If the administration would lead by example, show some pride, show some pride in their student athletes, pride in the school. Showing a positive attitude and pride can be infectious and spread pride among the alumni. So sad, I think those students deserve more!
 
Just to clarify, Portland State plays at Jeld-Wen, which is where they've always played. Their campus is downtown Portland and they don't have an on-campus stadium. However, Jeld-Wen is only about 10 blocks from the middle of their campus... About the same distance as Eastern's Greek neighborhood is from Roos Field. The venue itself is beautiful, although some of the seats are in a strange layout owing to the fact it was originally a baseball park and converted to a football/soccer facility. It only seats about 22,000, so it isn't cavernous.

The only other viable option would be to play at Hillsboro Stadium, which is about on par with Roos Field but about 15 miles to the West of campus. They played Eastern there a couple of times during periods of renovation at their other stadium.
 
It just baffles me that the university would just leave the football team on an island like that. Don't they understand the marketability of a football team? It's becoming the must have investment for universities nowadays. It'll really bite them in the ass in the future when their enrollment starts to fall.

It also gives alumni something to stay connected to the campus after graduation. If you still feel connected to your school through fanship, you are going to be far more likely to donate to the school. If you have put everything behind you, there really is no incentive to donate.
 
For those of us going to the PSU game, this is the promotion:

Nov. 21 – Dallas Cowboys Cheerleader/Fireworks

http://www.goviks.com/news/2014/9/4/FB_0904143223.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
360Eag said:
For those of us going to the PSU game, this is the promotion:

Nov. 21 – Dallas Cowboys Cheerleader/Fireworks

http://www.goviks.com/news/2014/9/4/FB_0904143223.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Shoot if it is just one . . not worth the trip :-)
Now if it was the whole squad then maybe.
 

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