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Rahe's Best OOC wins

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WSUfan1

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As we begin our 13th year with Stubborn Rahe as HC, I was wondering what a top 10 best OOC win list would look like. Quite frankly, I am not even sure we could get to 10. Will basically zero wins over "P5" schools, the list is quite embarrassing, really.

1- University of Dayton
2- University of Utah (this would be his only Pac-12 win, as it was Utah's first season)
3- Utah State University
4- University of Portland
5- University of San Fransisco
6- University of Pepperdine
7- South Dakota State Univesity
8- Oral Roberts University
9- San Jose State Unversity
10- UC- Irvine

What a truly pathetic list. My list includes home games won during OOC play, not including pre-season tournament games, like the the Great Alaskan Shootout, or post season games (CIT, etc.) If I were to eliminate the home wins for OOC, the list would be hardly exist. His true road OOC win % is about 15% I believe.

What's your list?
 
WSUfan said:
As we begin our 13th year with Stubborn Rahe as HC, I was wondering what a top 10 best OOC win list would look like. Quite frankly, I am not even sure we could get to 10. Will basically zero wins over "P5" schools, the list is quite embarrassing, really.

1- University of Dayton
2- University of Utah (this would be his only Pac-12 win, as it was Utah's first season)
3- Utah State University
4- University of Portland
5- University of San Fransisco
6- University of Pepperdine
7- South Dakota State Univesity
8- Oral Roberts University
9- San Jose State Unversity
10- UC- Irvine

What a truly pathetic list. My list includes home games won during OOC play, not including pre-season tournament games, like the the Great Alaskan Shootout, or post season games (CIT, etc.) If I were to eliminate the home wins for OOC, the list would be hardly exist. His true road OOC win % is about 15% I believe.

What's your list?
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BYU not on there. Rahe is so stubborn, he can't see that he has a pathetic history with players from Utah, returned missionaries in particular. How hard is it to figure out that BYU beats him every year with returned missionaries that likely wouldn't see the floor in Randy's system?! It can't be him or his hoops philosophy, gotta be something else. I keep hoping that one of the kids who transfers will make it big so he can put it in Randy's face about how faulty his evaluation of players is. McKay Cannon doing pretty well at BYU. Hope Riley Court does well at Dixie. I can't imagine Johnson or Fuller being okay with the current state of affairs and will eventually transfer. Please, one of you go on to major success so Randy will have some reason to question his ridiculous philosophy of what makes a player good, a change which might end up helping Weber get more wins with players who can actually play the game instead of just attack the rim.
 
Rahe's total road OOC wins (3 happened in one season):
Dayton
USU
Northern Iowa
Bakersfield
UC Irvine
Oral Roberts
SUU (second season and fourth season)
Alaska Anchorage DII
 
The longer Rahe's career lasts the more it feels like what his mentor Stew did. The difference is that you have to raise the needle a bit more if you're playing in the Big Sky. Just dominating the conference in win %, but doing little else is not particularly satisfactory. But Stew's career was built on a refusal to play on the road (almost ever), scheduling games heavily in Logan while building an amazing win percentage with his formula. His fans loved it, but his teams weren't memorable. And his tournament results were so bad. His reputation is based on win % only. It's kind of smoke and mirrors really. Rahe's is a bit the same. While he does go on the road a bit, we rarely exceed expectations.

I will say this, the "hard-headed" coach is trying something drastically different this year. I've got to give him credit for doing something different. Not sure how it will turn out, but it is something new. And I'm willing to watch, pull for the kids and see how it turns out. I do think we have unusual depth this year.

Dee, I am also concerned about RMs. I kind of got Riley Court (the 2 years obviously cost him some athleticism). And McKay just didn't seem to connect as he was given plenty of opportunity. But I think we need those kids to succeed when we get them. They'll quit coming at all if we don't get them opportunity. I'm really pulling for Johnson and a bit anxious myself.
 
UtahPirate said:
The longer Rahe's career lasts the more it feels like what his mentor Stew did. The difference is that you have to raise the needle a bit more if you're playing in the Big Sky. Just dominating the conference in win %, but doing little else is not particularly satisfactory. But Stew's career was built on a refusal to play on the road (almost ever), scheduling games heavily in Logan while building an amazing win percentage with his formula. His fans loved it, but his teams weren't memorable. And his tournament results were so bad. His reputation is based on win % only. It's kind of smoke and mirrors really. Rahe's is a bit the same. While he does go on the road a bit, we rarely exceed expectations.

I will say this, the "hard-headed" coach is trying something drastically different this year. I've got to give him credit for doing something different. Not sure how it will turn out, but it is something new. And I'm willing to watch, pull for the kids and see how it turns out. I do think we have unusual depth this year.

Dee, I am also concerned about RMs. I kind of got Riley Court (the 2 years obviously cost him some athleticism). And McKay just didn't seem to connect as he was given plenty of opportunity. But I think we need those kids to succeed when we get them. They'll quit coming at all if we don't get them opportunity. I'm really pulling for Johnson and a bit anxious myself.
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As in we do have depth or we do not have depth? We only played 8 guys on Tuesday, even with Harding out. This program is a total sham.
 
talhadfoursteals said:
Rahe's total road OOC wins (3 happened in one season):
Dayton
USU
Northern Iowa
Bakersfield
UC Irvine
Oral Roberts
SUU (second season and fourth season)
Alaska Anchorage DII
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Exactly. In now year 13, this is all he has to show for. Maybe compile a list of all road OOC games he has lost. It is staggering.
 
UtahPirate said:
The longer Rahe's career lasts the more it feels like what his mentor Stew did. The difference is that you have to raise the needle a bit more if you're playing in the Big Sky. Just dominating the conference in win %, but doing little else is not particularly satisfactory. But Stew's career was built on a refusal to play on the road (almost ever), scheduling games heavily in Logan while building an amazing win percentage with his formula. His fans loved it, but his teams weren't memorable. And his tournament results were so bad. His reputation is based on win % only. It's kind of smoke and mirrors really. Rahe's is a bit the same. While he does go on the road a bit, we rarely exceed expectations.

I will say this, the "hard-headed" coach is trying something drastically different this year. I've got to give him credit for doing something different. Not sure how it will turn out, but it is something new. And I'm willing to watch, pull for the kids and see how it turns out. I do think we have unusual depth this year.

Dee, I am also concerned about RMs. I kind of got Riley Court (the 2 years obviously cost him some athleticism). And McKay just didn't seem to connect as he was given plenty of opportunity. But I think we need those kids to succeed when we get them. They'll quit coming at all if we don't get them opportunity. I'm really pulling for Johnson and a bit anxious myself.
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I have no way of knowing what Johnson is thinking right now, but I do know that he is a high level player, and he knows he is a high level player. It has become obvious that returned missionaries coming to Weber State is a death sentence for their careers, and I'm sure both Fuller and Johnson will react accordingly in due time--wish they could have seen it before they signed a year of their life away. I agree that Riley Court was not the same guy after his mission, and McKay Cannon did well for awhile but then lost his spot. Did he lose it because Rahe saw a lack of chemistry with teammates, his own lack of effort, or something else? Who knows? He seems to be doing just fine at BYU. Dusty Baker was an RM and had a decent career, but he was relegated to being a role player, maybe that was his ceiling. I do think Fuller and Johnson both have higher ceilings than the other RM's mentioned, but it ain't gonna happen in Randy Rahe's system. I guess I'll just cheer for whatever Weber becomes, and also cheer for those guys as they figure out their next steps.
 
WSUfan said:
UtahPirate said:
The longer Rahe's career lasts the more it feels like what his mentor Stew did. The difference is that you have to raise the needle a bit more if you're playing in the Big Sky. Just dominating the conference in win %, but doing little else is not particularly satisfactory. But Stew's career was built on a refusal to play on the road (almost ever), scheduling games heavily in Logan while building an amazing win percentage with his formula. His fans loved it, but his teams weren't memorable. And his tournament results were so bad. His reputation is based on win % only. It's kind of smoke and mirrors really. Rahe's is a bit the same. While he does go on the road a bit, we rarely exceed expectations.

I will say this, the "hard-headed" coach is trying something drastically different this year. I've got to give him credit for doing something different. Not sure how it will turn out, but it is something new. And I'm willing to watch, pull for the kids and see how it turns out. I do think we have unusual depth this year.

Dee, I am also concerned about RMs. I kind of got Riley Court (the 2 years obviously cost him some athleticism). And McKay just didn't seem to connect as he was given plenty of opportunity. But I think we need those kids to succeed when we get them. They'll quit coming at all if we don't get them opportunity. I'm really pulling for Johnson and a bit anxious myself.
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As in we do have depth or we do not have depth? We only played 8 guys on Tuesday, even with Harding out. This program is a total sham.
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WSUfan said:
UtahPirate said:
The longer Rahe's career lasts the more it feels like what his mentor Stew did. The difference is that you have to raise the needle a bit more if you're playing in the Big Sky. Just dominating the conference in win %, but doing little else is not particularly satisfactory. But Stew's career was built on a refusal to play on the road (almost ever), scheduling games heavily in Logan while building an amazing win percentage with his formula. His fans loved it, but his teams weren't memorable. And his tournament results were so bad. His reputation is based on win % only. It's kind of smoke and mirrors really. Rahe's is a bit the same. While he does go on the road a bit, we rarely exceed expectations.

I will say this, the "hard-headed" coach is trying something drastically different this year. I've got to give him credit for doing something different. Not sure how it will turn out, but it is something new. And I'm willing to watch, pull for the kids and see how it turns out. I do think we have unusual depth this year.

Dee, I am also concerned about RMs. I kind of got Riley Court (the 2 years obviously cost him some athleticism). And McKay just didn't seem to connect as he was given plenty of opportunity. But I think we need those kids to succeed when we get them. They'll quit coming at all if we don't get them opportunity. I'm really pulling for Johnson and a bit anxious myself.
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As in we do have depth or we do not have depth? We only played 8 guys on Tuesday, even with Harding out. This program is a total sham.
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We played 9, but that might detract from my "depth" point and your "sham" point. So let's you and I split the difference ... Rahe played 8.5 guys.
 
12-48 (.200), 10-48 (.172) vs D1 teams

Wins
'06-'07 Alaska-Fairbanks (Non-D1), Portland
'07-'08 Cal St Bakersfield (1st season as D1)
'08-'09 S Utah
'09-'10
'10-'11 Alaska-Anchorage (Non-D1), S Utah
'11-'12 UC Irvine
'12-'13 Dayton, Oral Roberts, N Iowa
'13-'14
'14-'15
'15-'16
'16-'17 Utah St, Cal St Fullerton
'17-'18
'18-'19
 
SWeberCat02 said:
12-48 (.200), 10-48 (.172) vs D1 teams

Wins
'06-'07 Alaska-Fairbanks (Non-D1), Portland
'07-'08 Cal St Bakersfield (1st season as D1)
'08-'09 S Utah
'09-'10
'10-'11 Alaska-Anchorage (Non-D1), S Utah
'11-'12 UC Irvine
'12-'13 Dayton, Oral Roberts, N Iowa
'13-'14
'14-'15
'15-'16
'16-'17 Utah St, Cal St Fullerton
'17-'18
'18-'19
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I'm not sure if I want to throw up or cry from how bad this is. Seeing the percentages really hurts.
 
SWeberCat02 said:
12-48 (.200), 10-48 (.172) vs D1 teams

Wins
'06-'07 Alaska-Fairbanks (Non-D1), Portland
'07-'08 Cal St Bakersfield (1st season as D1)
'08-'09 S Utah
'09-'10
'10-'11 Alaska-Anchorage (Non-D1), S Utah
'11-'12 UC Irvine
'12-'13 Dayton, Oral Roberts, N Iowa
'13-'14
'14-'15
'15-'16
'16-'17 Utah St, Cal St Fullerton
'17-'18
'18-'19
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'18-'19 BYU (seems so long ago)
 
wsucatfan said:
SWeberCat02 said:
12-48 (.200), 10-48 (.172) vs D1 teams

Wins
'06-'07 Alaska-Fairbanks (Non-D1), Portland
'07-'08 Cal St Bakersfield (1st season as D1)
'08-'09 S Utah
'09-'10
'10-'11 Alaska-Anchorage (Non-D1), S Utah
'11-'12 UC Irvine
'12-'13 Dayton, Oral Roberts, N Iowa
'13-'14
'14-'15
'15-'16
'16-'17 Utah St, Cal St Fullerton
'17-'18
'18-'19
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'18-'19 BYU (seems so long ago)
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Road Wins
 
SWeberCat02 said:
wsucatfan said:
SWeberCat02 said:
12-48 (.200), 10-48 (.172) vs D1 teams

Wins
'06-'07 Alaska-Fairbanks (Non-D1), Portland
'07-'08 Cal St Bakersfield (1st season as D1)
'08-'09 S Utah
'09-'10
'10-'11 Alaska-Anchorage (Non-D1), S Utah
'11-'12 UC Irvine
'12-'13 Dayton, Oral Roberts, N Iowa
'13-'14
'14-'15
'15-'16
'16-'17 Utah St, Cal St Fullerton
'17-'18
'18-'19
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'18-'19 BYU (seems so long ago)
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Road Wins
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Sorry I didn't see that in the header, just Rahe's best OOC wins. ;-)
 
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