Realignment: What About Basketball Fans?????

[weberwildcat]

all this conference realignment crap is screwing over basketball fans. its all about football for the changes so those of us that still care about bball, just oh well? take what his handed to us and thats that?

in hindsight it is looking like we added schools to the big sky to avoid a wac situation that would have never happened.

was adding 4 schools, 2 football only and 2 full time a good idea or just bad? adding und with out usd was a blunder and a half.

in basketball things are looking much worse now. i do not like 20 conference games.

every week there is more FBS aligning and its getting very old. we need a stop to this nonsense. they need to just get their 4 confernces or 1 conference of 120 schools or whatever but end this nonsense. i think everyone is gonna be regretting it if not already when all is said and done but it may never end. :tothehand:

 

[weberwildcat]

i also hope if boise tries to go big sky for everything but football we tell them no.

 

[WILDCAT]

I would only accept Boise Backs as hoops only members if some of that football money comes to the Big Sky too.

 

[bigskychamps07]

:thumbdown:

 

[n.ogdencat]

all this conference realignment crap is screwing over basketball fans. its all about football for the changes so those of us that still care about bball, just oh well? take what his handed to us and thats that?

in hindsight it is looking like we added schools to the big sky to avoid a wac situation that would have never happened.

was adding 4 schools, 2 football only and 2 full time a good idea or just bad? adding und with out usd was a blunder and a half.

in basketball things are looking much worse now. i do not like 20 conference games.

every week there is more FBS aligning and its getting very old. we need a stop to this nonsense. they need to just get their 4 confernces or 1 conference of 120 schools or whatever but end this nonsense. i think everyone is gonna be regretting it if not already when all is said and done but it may never end. :tothehand:

Wait...I thought you were really JAZZED about playing 4 more conference games each year. Now you aren't? What caused this huge change of heart? Is it the fact that with more conference games the Cats now will have less OOC games? That really pisses me off. Losing OOC opportunities that could be against teams with good RPIs. However, if you really think of it, for Weber at least, we are only adding 3 conference games, since we play SUU every year. But still...Well, since the Wizard usually only schedules 28-29 games those extra three games will give Weber the full 31 that are alloted to be used by the NCAA.

As for the conference additions, I think Fullerton made the best decision he could. Even if you don't like it, and yes, there are a lot of questionable things attached to this realignment, its done. So all we can do is deal with it, and make the most of the situation. I'm excited to see SUU in the conference. UND is a bit of a head scratcher (sorry Jon), but something will work out in the long run.

 

[weberwildcat]

fyi its not done.

latest rumors are big sky still wants 1 more school :doh:

for football its all good, for bball we need to get rid of some schools, not add. and why would i want 20 conf games? :shocking: a 20 win season is something to be proud of, it wont be next yr.

 

[n.ogdencat]

fyi its not done.

latest rumors are big sky still wants 1 more school :doh:

for football its all good, for bball we need to get rid of some schools, not add. and why would i want 20 conf games? :shocking:

Yep, 1 more school. Thats what is going to happen. Maybe, and this is novel, but when the Sky adds the 14th school, that divisions will be created, and basketball will only play the teams in their division twice, and maybe another team in the other division once. To me, its too many, but whatever that is the direction the Sky is headed.

I like the current set up, maybe one more school to put the Sky at 10, but 14 for basketball. YIKES!!

 

[weberwildcat]

fyi its not done.

latest rumors are big sky still wants 1 more school :doh:

for football its all good, for bball we need to get rid of some schools, not add. and why would i want 20 conf games? :shocking:

Yep, 1 more school. Thats what is going to happen. Maybe, and this is novel, but when the Sky adds the 14th school, that divisions will be created, and basketball will only play the teams in their division twice, and maybe another team in the other division once. To me, its too many, but whatever that is the direction the Sky is headed.

I like the current set up, maybe one more school to put the Sky at 10, but 14 for basketball. YIKES!!

there are conferences that already play 20 conf games. im not sure we would only play other divsion once.

 

[Denny Huston]

fyi its not done.

latest rumors are big sky still wants 1 more school :doh:

for football its all good, for bball we need to get rid of some schools, not add. and why would i want 20 conf games? :shocking:

Yep, 1 more school. Thats what is going to happen. Maybe, and this is novel, but when the Sky adds the 14th school, that divisions will be created, and basketball will only play the teams in their division twice, and maybe another team in the other division once. To me, its too many, but whatever that is the direction the Sky is headed.

I like the current set up, maybe one more school to put the Sky at 10, but 14 for basketball. YIKES!!

My math may be wrong here
1.WSU
2. UM
3. MSU
4. ISU
5.EWU
6.PSU
7.UNC
8. SUck
9.NAU
10.SUU
11.Northern Canada Fighting Sioux
12.?
13.?
14.?
Im confused :shock: :wall:

 

[Weber Pirate]

I like the current set up, maybe one more school to put the Sky at 10, but 14 for basketball. YIKES!!

Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought that starting next year, we will have 13 for football and 11 for basketball :?

So, if we add one more full member it would be 14 for football and 12 for basketball. :thumb:

 

[Denny Huston]

I like the current set up, maybe one more school to put the Sky at 10, but 14 for basketball. YIKES!!

Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought that starting next year, we will have 13 for football and 11 for basketball :?

So, if we add one more full member it would be 14 for football and 12 for basketball. :thumb:

I didnt write that, I was quoting some idiot

 

[jon]

As for the conference additions, I think Fullerton made the best decision he could. Even if you don't like it, and yes, there are a lot of questionable things attached to this realignment, its done. So all we can do is deal with it, and make the most of the situation. I'm excited to see SUU in the conference. UND is a bit of a head scratcher (sorry Jon), but something will work out in the long run.

There are some ways that UND doesn't make sense for the Big Sky and some that it does. Geographically it is not a great fit... Grand Forks isn't the easiest place to get to (especially in the winter) and the lack of USD as a travel partner certainly hurts.

But I think athletically it will help the Big Sky. They have solid facilities (and a capacity of 3,500, bigger than almost half the current Big Sky teams), and the athletic department as a whole is in solid shape thanks to one of the top Division I hockey programs in the entire country. Location wise it is tough, but I think overall they will add some good things to the Big Sky.

 

[WeberSki]

As for the conference additions, I think Fullerton made the best decision he could. Even if you don't like it, and yes, there are a lot of questionable things attached to this realignment, its done. So all we can do is deal with it, and make the most of the situation. I'm excited to see SUU in the conference. UND is a bit of a head scratcher (sorry Jon), but something will work out in the long run.

There are some ways that UND doesn't make sense for the Big Sky and some that it does. Geographically it is not a great fit... Grand Forks isn't the easiest place to get to (especially in the winter) and the lack of USD as a travel partner certainly hurts.

But I think athletically it will help the Big Sky. They have solid facilities (and a capacity of 3,500, bigger than almost half the current Big Sky teams), and the athletic department as a whole is in solid shape thanks to one of the top Division I hockey programs in the entire country. Location wise it is tough, but I think overall they will add some good things to the Big Sky.

.... but are they apart of the Dakota big 3?

 

[WILDCAT]

As for the conference additions, I think Fullerton made the best decision he could. Even if you don't like it, and yes, there are a lot of questionable things attached to this realignment, its done. So all we can do is deal with it, and make the most of the situation. I'm excited to see SUU in the conference. UND is a bit of a head scratcher (sorry Jon), but something will work out in the long run.

There are some ways that UND doesn't make sense for the Big Sky and some that it does. Geographically it is not a great fit... Grand Forks isn't the easiest place to get to (especially in the winter) and the lack of USD as a travel partner certainly hurts.

But I think athletically it will help the Big Sky. They have solid facilities (and a capacity of 3,500, bigger than almost half the current Big Sky teams), and the athletic department as a whole is in solid shape thanks to one of the top Division I hockey programs in the entire country. Location wise it is tough, but I think overall they will add some good things to the Big Sky.

.... but are they apart of the Dakota big 3?

No, they are in the Dakota MIGHTY ONE :-D

 

[Skippy]

The Big Sky is waiting on the life support system to be pulled on the WAC. The conference believes USU will be going to the Mountain West sooner rather than later, and that will leave Idaho on an island. They'll take the Vandals in all sports but football, and wait for U of I to come to the realization they can't survive as an independent.

The two Montanas will have to decide if they can get into the Mountain West or if continued life in the Big Sky is worth more than the gamble of getting into the Mountain West. They are too smart to cast their lot with a dying WAC. If they decide to go, the Big Sky is secure with its new additions. If they stay, get used to 20 conference games. That's Fullerton's way of forcing BSC schools to stop playing so many money games on the road every year and destroying the conference's combined record before league play even begins.

And yes, football -- more specifically, football television dollars -- is driving all of the decision-making in the realignment madness we are now experiencing. In the end -- say 10 years down the road, I predict we'll see a 64-team mega conference that moves out of the NCAA, sets up its own governance, eliminates 95 percent of the rules prohibiting extra benefits for athletes and starts paying its players. They will set up their own football playoff system and basketball tournament, sign mega-bucks TV contracts and there will no sharing of revenues with all us "little guys" who aren't part of the system.

 

[n.ogdencat]

As for the conference additions, I think Fullerton made the best decision he could. Even if you don't like it, and yes, there are a lot of questionable things attached to this realignment, its done. So all we can do is deal with it, and make the most of the situation. I'm excited to see SUU in the conference. UND is a bit of a head scratcher (sorry Jon), but something will work out in the long run.

There are some ways that UND doesn't make sense for the Big Sky and some that it does. Geographically it is not a great fit... Grand Forks isn't the easiest place to get to (especially in the winter) and the lack of USD as a travel partner certainly hurts.

But I think athletically it will help the Big Sky. They have solid facilities (and a capacity of 3,500, bigger than almost half the current Big Sky teams), and the athletic department as a whole is in solid shape thanks to one of the top Division I hockey programs in the entire country. Location wise it is tough, but I think overall they will add some good things to the Big Sky.

.... but are they apart of the Dakota big 3?

Hahahahaha!! The Dakota Big 3!! LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL. :rofl: :rofl: Out of all the Dakotas, UND is the only one I would really want in the Sky anyway. Bummer deal that USD didn't come along for the ride, but that is their loss. They will see the error of their ways soon. Anyway, yeah, Grand Forks, YIKES!! To me that is the only definite bogus to this deal, other than that UND would be a perfect fit for the Sky.

 

[n.ogdencat]

The Big Sky is waiting on the life support system to be pulled on the WAC. The conference believes USU will be going to the Mountain West sooner rather than later, and that will leave Idaho on an island. They'll take the Vandals in all sports but football, and wait for U of I to come to the realization they can't survive as an independent.

The two Montanas will have to decide if they can get into the Mountain West or if continued life in the Big Sky is worth more than the gamble of getting into the Mountain West. They are too smart to cast their lot with a dying WAC. If they decide to go, the Big Sky is secure with its new additions. If they stay, get used to 20 conference games. That's Fullerton's way of forcing BSC schools to stop playing so many money games on the road every year and destroying the conference's combined record before league play even begins.

And yes, football -- more specifically, football television dollars -- is driving all of the decision-making in the realignment madness we are now experiencing. In the end -- say 10 years down the road, I predict we'll see a 64-team mega conference that moves out of the NCAA, sets up its own governance, eliminates 95 percent of the rules prohibiting extra benefits for athletes and starts paying its players. They will set up their own football playoff system and basketball tournament, sign mega-bucks TV contracts and there will no sharing of revenues with all us "little guys" who aren't part of the system.

In essence...those 64 teams will ruin everything the fans love about College sports. We already have the worthless/Boring NFL and the Greedy NBA.

I've been saying it all along...Idahlol will be back in the Sky. They might as well cut their losses and return now. As for UM and MSU going the MW. It isn't going to happen. The MW has two spots...they will be taken by current WAC schools (as stated already USU and most likely SJSU, if the MW decides to add two). The Montanas don't add enough in potential viewership and fanbase. Lets not kid outselves here. There are more people that live between Ogden and Salt Lake then the entire state of Montana. I know UM believes that Spokane is a UM paradise, but I don't agree with their assumptions. UM and MSU are here to stay. If anything they might try to jump up to the WAC, but we all know the WAC is a dead conference. La Tech, SJSU, and USU are all going away as soon as they can. I don't know where NMSU will land, most likely in the Sun Belt, but Idahlol doesn't have any options.

 

[weberwildcat]

The Big Sky is waiting on the life support system to be pulled on the WAC. The conference believes USU will be going to the Mountain West sooner rather than later, and that will leave Idaho on an island. They'll take the Vandals in all sports but football, and wait for U of I to come to the realization they can't survive as an independent.

i would love for the big sky to say no to idaho unless its all sports. we should have done the same with cal poly & davis. im not sure if the partial membership is any better than having a lone la tech or hawaii way out in bfe.

 

[weberwildcat]

The two Montanas will have to decide if they can get into the Mountain West or if continued life in the Big Sky is worth more than the gamble of getting into the Mountain West. They are too smart to cast their lot with a dying WAC. If they decide to go, the Big Sky is secure with its new additions. If they stay, get used to 20 conference games. That's Fullerton's way of forcing BSC schools to stop playing so many money games on the road every year and destroying the conference's combined record before league play even begins.

you have a good point about the ooc. about half of the ooc schedule isn't that great at any sky school, but for me its mostly the non DI's. playing mostly road games as we see in the big sky is really nothing to look forward to so to replace that with some conference home games thats not so bad.

as for the montanas if they really are still thinking about going fbs i could care less. i would like them to stay but if they go they go. i just want it over with, i dont care who is in what league. im happy the fbs are getting new tv contracts for those of you that are big fbs fans. as long as the conference weber state is in has an auto bid to the ncaa tournament i will still be a fan. if not, i will try my hardest to be an nba fan if that is possible.

 

[talhadfoursteals]

The two Montanas will have to decide if they can get into the Mountain West or if continued life in the Big Sky is worth more than the gamble of getting into the Mountain West. They are too smart to cast their lot with a dying WAC. If they decide to go, the Big Sky is secure with its new additions. If they stay, get used to 20 conference games. That's Fullerton's way of forcing BSC schools to stop playing so many money games on the road every year and destroying the conference's combined record before league play even begins.

you have a good point about the ooc. about half of the ooc schedule isn't that great at any sky school, but for me its mostly the non DI's. playing mostly road games as we see in the big sky is really nothing to look forward to so to replace that with some conference home games thats not so bad.

as for the montanas if they really are still thinking about going fbs i could care less. i would like them to stay but if they go they go. i just want it over with, i dont care who is in what league. im happy the fbs are getting new tv contracts for those of you that are big fbs fans. as long as the conference weber state is in has an auto bid to the ncaa tournament i will still be a fan. if not, i will try my hardest to be an nba fan if that is possible.

You...NBA...Huh? I don't think that is possible! It would be really sad if March Madness is destroyed because of footballs perfidy and greed. I have really started to hate the so called BCS conferences (Utah and its fans conceit, since becoming a Pac whatever school, has really helped to stoke the fires of my hatred for them as well. Screw the pUkes!!).

This realignment crap is really frustrating, and I hate how it is starting to destroy college athletes and replace it with some sort of pseudo professional league. We already have professional athletics.