Scheduling

[baller]

Since I seem to be the "negative" one when it comes to disapproving of Weber's home non-conference schedule I decided to take a look at the rest of the Big Sky schools scheduling. Some observations are:

1. Montana State plays the most pre-conference games with 14, EWU, ISU,UM, SUU all play 13. Sac State plays the fewest pre-conference games with only 9. Weber has 11 of these games.
2. The schools playing the most "patsies" at home with three each are EWU, UND, PSU & Sac State. The fewest "patsies" played at home belongs to NAU & UM, with none. Weber has two along with 6 others.
3. The school with the most Div. 1 pre-conference home games is MSU with 7. Sac State has no Div 1 teams visiting their gym. Montana has the second most Div. 1 visitors with 4. Weber has only 2.
4. Idaho State is going on the road to play 10 Division 1 teams, the most of any BSC team. UM & SUU are close playing 9 road games against Div. 1 teams. Weber plays 7 on the road.
(Any neutral site games are counted as road games)

So what conclusions can be taken from this analysis?
1. Montana & Montana State did a far better job of scheduling than any other conference schools.
2. Sac State's gym is so minor league that no team wants to play there and UNC isn't far behind.
3. The worst job of scheduling was done by UND, ISU, Sac State & UNC. Weber isn't far behind them.
4. Weber spends more money on its bball team than anyone but maybe Montana. For a team with its facilities, resources, positive history it should be the best scheduler in the Conference, yet they are not even in the running for this honor.

I want to see a big improvement in Weber's bball program. Yes, it is good. Yes, Rahe is a good coach who recruits very well (with Weber's facilities he should be the best in conference and he is). I wanna see 9-10 thousand in house for every home game. The next step in accomplishing that is to begin to schedule better home games pre-conference.

 

[WILDCAT]

Since I seem to be the "negative" one when it comes to disapproving of Weber's home non-conference schedule I decided to take a look at the rest of the Big Sky schools scheduling. Some observations are:

1. Montana State plays the most pre-conference games with 14, EWU, ISU,UM, SUU all play 13. Sac State plays the fewest pre-conference games with only 9. Weber has 11 of these games.
2. The schools playing the most "patsies" at home with three each are EWU, UND, PSU & Sac State. The fewest "patsies" played at home belongs to NAU & UM, with none. Weber has two along with 6 others.
3. The school with the most Div. 1 pre-conference home games is MSU with 7. Sac State has no Div 1 teams visiting their gym. Montana has the second most Div. 1 visitors with 4. Weber has only 2.
4. Idaho State is going on the road to play 10 Division 1 teams, the most of any BSC team. UM & SUU are close playing 9 road games against Div. 1 teams. Weber plays 7 on the road.
(Any neutral site games are counted as road games)

So what conclusions can be taken from this analysis?
1. Montana & Montana State did a far better job of scheduling than any other conference schools.
2. Sac State's gym is so minor league that no team wants to play there and UNC isn't far behind.
3. The worst job of scheduling was done by UND, ISU, Sac State & UNC. Weber isn't far behind them.
4. Weber spends more money on its bball team than anyone but maybe Montana. For a team with its facilities, resources, positive history it should be the best scheduler in the Conference, yet they are not even in the running for this honor.

I want to see a big improvement in Weber's bball program. Yes, it is good. Yes, Rahe is a good coach who recruits very well (with Weber's facilities he should be the best in conference and he is). I wanna see 9-10 thousand in house for every home game. The next step in accomplishing that is to begin to schedule better home games pre-conference.

everyone on this forum hates the home schedule and have voiced their opinions on the matter. The difference however is that some of us got on with our lives and stopped letting it bother us and don't continually bring it up especially since there is NOTHING any of us can do to change it. People can boycott the season all they want because they don't like the schedule but that's not going to change the way Weber does things.

Scheduling is hard for small schools. Weber may have a good basketball program but they are still a very small school and not a rich small school either so we aren't going to get a whole lot of other mid major programs to the Dee if they would rather play at Stanford and get three times the money for it.

I don't like it, you don't like it, nobody here likes it but its the way college sports works nowadays. MONEY TALKS

 

[Webergrad02]

Since I seem to be the "negative" one when it comes to disapproving of Weber's home non-conference schedule I decided to take a look at the rest of the Big Sky schools scheduling. Some observations are:

1. Montana State plays the most pre-conference games with 14, EWU, ISU,UM, SUU all play 13. Sac State plays the fewest pre-conference games with only 9. Weber has 11 of these games.
2. The schools playing the most "patsies" at home with three each are EWU, UND, PSU & Sac State. The fewest "patsies" played at home belongs to NAU & UM, with none. Weber has two along with 6 others.
3. The school with the most Div. 1 pre-conference home games is MSU with 7. Sac State has no Div 1 teams visiting their gym. Montana has the second most Div. 1 visitors with 4. Weber has only 2.
4. Idaho State is going on the road to play 10 Division 1 teams, the most of any BSC team. UM & SUU are close playing 9 road games against Div. 1 teams. Weber plays 7 on the road.
(Any neutral site games are counted as road games)

So what conclusions can be taken from this analysis?
1. Montana & Montana State did a far better job of scheduling than any other conference schools.
2. Sac State's gym is so minor league that no team wants to play there and UNC isn't far behind.
3. The worst job of scheduling was done by UND, ISU, Sac State & UNC. Weber isn't far behind them.
4. Weber spends more money on its bball team than anyone but maybe Montana. For a team with its facilities, resources, positive history it should be the best scheduler in the Conference, yet they are not even in the running for this honor.

I want to see a big improvement in Weber's bball program. Yes, it is good. Yes, Rahe is a good coach who recruits very well (with Weber's facilities he should be the best in conference and he is). I wanna see 9-10 thousand in house for every home game. The next step in accomplishing that is to begin to schedule better home games pre-conference.

everyone on this forum hates the home schedule and have voiced their opinions on the matter. The difference however is that some of us got on with our lives and stopped letting it bother us and don't continually bring it up especially since there is NOTHING any of us can do to change it. People can boycott the season all they want because they don't like the schedule but that's not going to change the way Weber does things.

Scheduling is hard for small schools. Weber may have a good basketball program but they are still a very small school and not a rich small school either so we aren't going to get a whole lot of other mid major programs to the Dee if they would rather play at Stanford and get three times the money for it.

I don't like it, you don't like it, nobody here likes it but its the way college sports works nowadays. MONEY TALKS

MONEY TALKS AND BS DOESN'T WALK AT WEBER, IT CONTINUALLY FLOWS OUT OF THE AD'S MOUTH.

The fact that Baller is pointing out is that Weber should be able to schedule like Montana. Removing scheduling from Randy should have happened in the last contract extension. It needs to happen now!

We have money to COA stipends. We have money to pay a worthless marketing staff and SATOG. We have money to pay 3 times the going rate for a Big Sky head coach. It is time to find some money to make the schedule better.

 

[WILDCAT]

Since I seem to be the "negative" one when it comes to disapproving of Weber's home non-conference schedule I decided to take a look at the rest of the Big Sky schools scheduling. Some observations are:

1. Montana State plays the most pre-conference games with 14, EWU, ISU,UM, SUU all play 13. Sac State plays the fewest pre-conference games with only 9. Weber has 11 of these games.
2. The schools playing the most "patsies" at home with three each are EWU, UND, PSU & Sac State. The fewest "patsies" played at home belongs to NAU & UM, with none. Weber has two along with 6 others.
3. The school with the most Div. 1 pre-conference home games is MSU with 7. Sac State has no Div 1 teams visiting their gym. Montana has the second most Div. 1 visitors with 4. Weber has only 2.
4. Idaho State is going on the road to play 10 Division 1 teams, the most of any BSC team. UM & SUU are close playing 9 road games against Div. 1 teams. Weber plays 7 on the road.
(Any neutral site games are counted as road games)

So what conclusions can be taken from this analysis?
1. Montana & Montana State did a far better job of scheduling than any other conference schools.
2. Sac State's gym is so minor league that no team wants to play there and UNC isn't far behind.
3. The worst job of scheduling was done by UND, ISU, Sac State & UNC. Weber isn't far behind them.
4. Weber spends more money on its bball team than anyone but maybe Montana. For a team with its facilities, resources, positive history it should be the best scheduler in the Conference, yet they are not even in the running for this honor.

I want to see a big improvement in Weber's bball program. Yes, it is good. Yes, Rahe is a good coach who recruits very well (with Weber's facilities he should be the best in conference and he is). I wanna see 9-10 thousand in house for every home game. The next step in accomplishing that is to begin to schedule better home games pre-conference.

everyone on this forum hates the home schedule and have voiced their opinions on the matter. The difference however is that some of us got on with our lives and stopped letting it bother us and don't continually bring it up especially since there is NOTHING any of us can do to change it. People can boycott the season all they want because they don't like the schedule but that's not going to change the way Weber does things.

Scheduling is hard for small schools. Weber may have a good basketball program but they are still a very small school and not a rich small school either so we aren't going to get a whole lot of other mid major programs to the Dee if they would rather play at Stanford and get three times the money for it.

I don't like it, you don't like it, nobody here likes it but its the way college sports works nowadays. MONEY TALKS

MONEY TALKS AND BS DOESN'T WALK AT WEBER, IT CONTINUALLY FLOWS OUT OF THE AD'S MOUTH.

The fact that Baller is pointing out is that Weber should be able to schedule like Montana. Removing scheduling from Randy should have happened in the last contract extension. It needs to happen now!

We have money to COA stipends. We have money to pay a worthless marketing staff and SATOG. We have money to pay 3 times the going rate for a Big Sky head coach. It is time to find some money to make the schedule better.

You guys really think taking the schedule out of Rahe's hands is really going to help? From what I understand the AD is in charge of football scheduling and we will have played Sacramento State 4 years in a row after next year. Is that ok with everyone?

There is no proof at all that the schedule would be any better if Bovee took it over. Weber has one of the smallest athletic budgets in the Big Sky. Montana has a larger budget, hence they can spend more and try to get a full division 1 schedule.

Heck it took a deal on the upcoming football game between Weber and Wyoming for Wyoming to even agree to a two for one deal with Weber. Which tells me that at least Weber is trying if they are willing to lose out on money to get Wyoming to the Dee.

You guys act and make it seem like Scheduling is easy, but there are so many factors that go into it and the most important one is money. Prime example, Utah. Utah year in and year out has a home dominated schedule but they can afford to bring in those teams Division one or not.

 

[SWeberCat02]

Since I seem to be the "negative" one when it comes to disapproving of Weber's home non-conference schedule I decided to take a look at the rest of the Big Sky schools scheduling. Some observations are:

1. Montana State plays the most pre-conference games with 14, EWU, ISU,UM, SUU all play 13. Sac State plays the fewest pre-conference games with only 9. Weber has 11 of these games.
2. The schools playing the most "patsies" at home with three each are EWU, UND, PSU & Sac State. The fewest "patsies" played at home belongs to NAU & UM, with none. Weber has two along with 6 others.
3. The school with the most Div. 1 pre-conference home games is MSU with 7. Sac State has no Div 1 teams visiting their gym. Montana has the second most Div. 1 visitors with 4. Weber has only 2.
4. Idaho State is going on the road to play 10 Division 1 teams, the most of any BSC team. UM & SUU are close playing 9 road games against Div. 1 teams. Weber plays 7 on the road.
(Any neutral site games are counted as road games)

So what conclusions can be taken from this analysis?
1. Montana & Montana State did a far better job of scheduling than any other conference schools.
2. Sac State's gym is so minor league that no team wants to play there and UNC isn't far behind.
3. The worst job of scheduling was done by UND, ISU, Sac State & UNC. Weber isn't far behind them.
4. Weber spends more money on its bball team than anyone but maybe Montana. For a team with its facilities, resources, positive history it should be the best scheduler in the Conference, yet they are not even in the running for this honor.

I want to see a big improvement in Weber's bball program. Yes, it is good. Yes, Rahe is a good coach who recruits very well (with Weber's facilities he should be the best in conference and he is). I wanna see 9-10 thousand in house for every home game. The next step in accomplishing that is to begin to schedule better home games pre-conference.

everyone on this forum hates the home schedule and have voiced their opinions on the matter. The difference however is that some of us got on with our lives and stopped letting it bother us and don't continually bring it up especially since there is NOTHING any of us can do to change it. People can boycott the season all they want because they don't like the schedule but that's not going to change the way Weber does things.

Scheduling is hard for small schools. Weber may have a good basketball program but they are still a very small school and not a rich small school either so we aren't going to get a whole lot of other mid major programs to the Dee if they would rather play at Stanford and get three times the money for it.

I don't like it, you don't like it, nobody here likes it but its the way college sports works nowadays. MONEY TALKS

MONEY TALKS AND BS DOESN'T WALK AT WEBER, IT CONTINUALLY FLOWS OUT OF THE AD'S MOUTH.

The fact that Baller is pointing out is that Weber should be able to schedule like Montana. Removing scheduling from Randy should have happened in the last contract extension. It needs to happen now!

We have money to COA stipends. We have money to pay a worthless marketing staff and SATOG. We have money to pay 3 times the going rate for a Big Sky head coach. It is time to find some money to make the schedule better.

You guys really think taking the schedule out of Rahe's hands is really going to help? From what I understand the AD is in charge of football scheduling and we will have played Sacramento State 4 years in a row after next year. Is that ok with everyone?

There is no proof at all that the schedule would be any better if Bovee took it over.

Wildcat, I'm starting to think that you work in the athletic department. Of course the schedule would improve if you don't give total control of it to the head coach. The head coach is always going to schedule to serve his own needs. Randy has free reign to do whatever he wants and has no accountability. Some would argue that he's earned that right, but I would argue that that's not a good thing. And yes, I very much like the football schedules. We had the 5 time national champions at our place, for hell's sake. Since ending the playing of two money games every year you rarely hear any complaints about the football schedule.

 

[Longtimecat]

A teams identity is not defined by who they schedule and beat at home. A team becomes a better team by who they play on the road,tends to make them a better,tougher team. The end result reflects that.I just don't understand why this subject of our home schedule stresses people out.If we get another big sky title on a neutral court that is all that matters.

 

[WILDCAT]

Since I seem to be the "negative" one when it comes to disapproving of Weber's home non-conference schedule I decided to take a look at the rest of the Big Sky schools scheduling. Some observations are:

1. Montana State plays the most pre-conference games with 14, EWU, ISU,UM, SUU all play 13. Sac State plays the fewest pre-conference games with only 9. Weber has 11 of these games.
2. The schools playing the most "patsies" at home with three each are EWU, UND, PSU & Sac State. The fewest "patsies" played at home belongs to NAU & UM, with none. Weber has two along with 6 others.
3. The school with the most Div. 1 pre-conference home games is MSU with 7. Sac State has no Div 1 teams visiting their gym. Montana has the second most Div. 1 visitors with 4. Weber has only 2.
4. Idaho State is going on the road to play 10 Division 1 teams, the most of any BSC team. UM & SUU are close playing 9 road games against Div. 1 teams. Weber plays 7 on the road.
(Any neutral site games are counted as road games)

So what conclusions can be taken from this analysis?
1. Montana & Montana State did a far better job of scheduling than any other conference schools.
2. Sac State's gym is so minor league that no team wants to play there and UNC isn't far behind.
3. The worst job of scheduling was done by UND, ISU, Sac State & UNC. Weber isn't far behind them.
4. Weber spends more money on its bball team than anyone but maybe Montana. For a team with its facilities, resources, positive history it should be the best scheduler in the Conference, yet they are not even in the running for this honor.

I want to see a big improvement in Weber's bball program. Yes, it is good. Yes, Rahe is a good coach who recruits very well (with Weber's facilities he should be the best in conference and he is). I wanna see 9-10 thousand in house for every home game. The next step in accomplishing that is to begin to schedule better home games pre-conference.

everyone on this forum hates the home schedule and have voiced their opinions on the matter. The difference however is that some of us got on with our lives and stopped letting it bother us and don't continually bring it up especially since there is NOTHING any of us can do to change it. People can boycott the season all they want because they don't like the schedule but that's not going to change the way Weber does things.

Scheduling is hard for small schools. Weber may have a good basketball program but they are still a very small school and not a rich small school either so we aren't going to get a whole lot of other mid major programs to the Dee if they would rather play at Stanford and get three times the money for it.

I don't like it, you don't like it, nobody here likes it but its the way college sports works nowadays. MONEY TALKS

MONEY TALKS AND BS DOESN'T WALK AT WEBER, IT CONTINUALLY FLOWS OUT OF THE AD'S MOUTH.

The fact that Baller is pointing out is that Weber should be able to schedule like Montana. Removing scheduling from Randy should have happened in the last contract extension. It needs to happen now!

We have money to COA stipends. We have money to pay a worthless marketing staff and SATOG. We have money to pay 3 times the going rate for a Big Sky head coach. It is time to find some money to make the schedule better.

You guys really think taking the schedule out of Rahe's hands is really going to help? From what I understand the AD is in charge of football scheduling and we will have played Sacramento State 4 years in a row after next year. Is that ok with everyone?

There is no proof at all that the schedule would be any better if Bovee took it over.

Wildcat, I'm starting to think that you work in the athletic department. Of course the schedule would improve if you don't give total control of it to the head coach. The head coach is always going to schedule to serve his own needs. Randy has free reign to do whatever he wants and has no accountability. Some would argue that he's earned that right, but I would argue that that's not a good thing. And yes, I very much like the football schedules. We had the 5 time national champions at our place, for hell's sake. Since ending the playing of two money games every year you rarely hear any complaints about the football schedule.

You can think what you want, but in the end it doesn't make you right. But since we are on the subject of working in the athletic department I'm starting to think that maybe some posters on this board should since they are such experts and know how everything works and it's easy etc. etc.

The reason I don't get as worked up about the schedule as others is because its a trivial matter and it's not worth stressing about and getting butt hurt because I didn't get what I want. There are games on the home slate I like and games I don't. And the great part about that is I can choose which ones I'd like to go to. The schedule came out, I said it sucks and moved on.

Brace for impact, cause those are about to come back, maybe not every year but we will be playing Nevada and San Diego State in the same year.

 

[Webergrad02]

Wildcat - You bringing up the Wyoming football/basketball co-op scheduling just made my point. That was facilitated by Bovee and is the kind of out of the box thinking that we need in todays scheduling reality. Two coaches scratching each others backs doesn't have the same results that it once had. I don't mind playing Sac State every year. They are division 1. I don't need to play SDSU or Nevada for a succesful home schedule. No more Antelope Valleys and Multanomah.

Longtimecat - Unfortunately, you just posted from the same IP address that you have been posting from as "Bengal Visitor" for the last 7 years. So are you a long time cat fan or a Bengal fan?

 

[Longtimecat]

It's kinda like when someone calls up Rush Limbaugh and says first time caller long time listener.I'm a longtime reader of this forum and a short time poster. I'm sorry webergrad02 you are wrong even though I truly dislike bengals.

 

[WILDCAT]

Wildcat - You bringing up the Wyoming football/basketball co-op scheduling just made my point. That was facilitated by Bovee and is the kind of out of the box thinking that we need in todays scheduling reality. Two coaches scratching each others backs doesn't have the same results that it once had. I don't mind playing Sac State every year. They are division 1. I don't need to play SDSU or Nevada for a succesful home schedule. No more Antelope Valleys and Multanomah.

Longtimecat - Unfortunately, you just posted from the same IP address that you have been posting from as "Bengal Visitor" for the last 7 years. So are you a long time cat fan or a Bengal fan?

That wasn't the point of my argument. The whole point was the fact that Weber basically had to bargain on their knees (and lose money) to get Wyoming to EVEN AGREE to a 2 for 1. Proving to me that scheduling is harder than a lot of people on here try to claim it is.

Honestly I think Bovee has more influence in the scheduling than some on here think.

 

[SWeberCat02]

Seriously though, how the hell does Montana St get six D1 OOC home games?

 

[oldrunner]

Seriously though, how the hell does Montana St get six D1 OOC home games?

It's done by going to places where you really don't want to go, like Grand Canyon. It takes a fan base that will not crucify you for a loss at UVU or DU. It takes a willingness to shift money from one area of your budget to paying higher amounts to visitors. It may take a little of all of those things. In the end, you have to ask yourself, Is it worth it?

 

[SWeberCat02]

Seriously though, how the hell does Montana St get six D1 OOC home games?

It's done by going to places where you really don't want to go, like Grand Canyon. It takes a fan base that will not crucify you for a loss at UVU or DU. It takes a willingness to shift money from one area of your budget to paying higher amounts to visitors. It may take a little of all of those things. In the end, you have to ask yourself, Is it worth it?

? MSU goes to Pullman, Houston, SLC, Vermillion, and Omaha. Why wouldn't you want to go to those places? And why wouldn't you want to go to Phoenix and play Grand Canyon if you get a return game? We play in the Big Sky. Don't think we can say that we're too big to play anywhere. And in the end, yes it is worth it if it gets us more and better home games.

 

[oldrunner]

Seriously though, how the hell does Montana St get six D1 OOC home games?

It's done by going to places where you really don't want to go, like Grand Canyon. It takes a fan base that will not crucify you for a loss at UVU or DU. It takes a willingness to shift money from one area of your budget to paying higher amounts to visitors. It may take a little of all of those things. In the end, you have to ask yourself, Is it worth it?

? MSU goes to Pullman, Houston, SLC, Vermillion, and Omaha. Why wouldn't you want to go to those places? And why wouldn't you want to go to Phoenix and play Grand Canyon if you get a return game? We play in the Big Sky. Don't think we can say that we're too big to play anywhere. And in the end, yes it is worth it if it gets us more and better home games.

I'm really not arguing with you. I'm just saying that our AD and coaches have made the opposite evaluation. From our perspective, we want to see a higher level of competition at the Dee, but we also scream bloody murder when our guys lose to a UVU or a DU on the road. In that respect, we have sided with what is actually happening. We still like to bitch even though we are part of the problem and not part of the solution. :twocents:

 

[wsucatfan]

But i want my cake and to eat it too... always win on the road and better competition at home

 

[baller]

Personally I would rather get beat at home by a top-notch program than go on the road and play a 300+ RPI team whether I win or lose that game.

I have some experience with scheduling. And I am here to tell you that it ain't that hard. Weber schedules poorly at home pre-conference for two reasons: (1) A lack of effort goes into it. (2) The coach wants the schedule to look the way it does.

You can use any excuse you want to dream up but they don't hold water. It is what it is because it is what the coach wants and there isn't anyone who wants to put in the effort to make it better. End of story...

 

[Skippy]

:shocking:

Wildcat - You bringing up the Wyoming football/basketball co-op scheduling just made my point. That was facilitated by Bovee and is the kind of out of the box thinking that we need in todays scheduling reality. Two coaches scratching each others backs doesn't have the same results that it once had. I don't mind playing Sac State every year. They are division 1. I don't need to play SDSU or Nevada for a succesful home schedule. No more Antelope Valleys and Multanomah.

Longtimecat - Unfortunately, you just posted from the same IP address that you have been posting from as "Bengal Visitor" for the last 7 years. So are you a long time cat fan or a Bengal fan?

I think they're one in the same, right? -

 

[n.ogdencat]

Baller, thank you for your efforts. My first complaint...why only 11? Keep the road schedule, we know that is good, but why not another game or two? That is my biggest complaint. I know we need money games and we have to play a number of games against like level teams to get home games. So, why not play a couple more teams in the hope of creating a home and home or do a home and home with a team in the preseason. More games!!

 

[Longtimecat]

:shocking:

Wildcat - You bringing up the Wyoming football/basketball co-op scheduling just made my point. That was facilitated by Bovee and is the kind of out of the box thinking that we need in todays scheduling reality. Two coaches scratching each others backs doesn't have the same results that it once had. I don't mind playing Sac State every year. They are division 1. I don't need to play SDSU or Nevada for a succesful home schedule. No more Antelope Valleys and Multanomah.

Longtimecat - Unfortunately, you just posted from the same IP address that you have been posting from as "Bengal Visitor" for the last 7 years. So are you a long time cat fan or a Bengal fan?

I think they're one in the same, right? -

I think we are the first person ever who rooted for both rivals, that's diversity.

 

[baller]

SCHEDULING-SCHEDULING-SCHEDULING... WHAT IS THE POINT OF WEST COAST BAPTIST?

Compare Weber and Montana's scheduling this year. You know the weakness of Weber's schedule already. Montana scheduled 13 pre-conference games this year versus Weber's 11. As of this moment Montana is 3-7 with three games to go and Weber is 3-6 with two games to go.

Montana's Schedule...
Home Games - San Jose State (W), Wisc-Milw (W), Wyoming (L) so 2-1...
Road Games - USC (L), Mississippi (L), South Dakota (L), Wyoming (L), with Oregon & Riverside yet to be played.
Neutral Games - NC State (L), Wash State (L), ORU (W) so 1-2 with no games left to play.

Montand has not one lower division team on its schedule with an overall record of 3-7. Is it beyond anyone's imagination as to which team will be better prepared to enter the Conference race? How can Montana get good teams to come to its gym when Weber cannot. I submit that Montana uses the revenue generated from the likes of USC, Mississippi and Oregon to pay for those who visit our gym. Why can't we do the same? Because Rahe doesn't want to do it, thats why. He wants to pad his record against nobodies.

Rahe, get rid of those lower division pukes you schedule every year. Anyone who saw last nights game could not claim any benefit from it. Yes, maybe Morris got to play but he won't ever play in a meaningful game with Weber. Will be gone after this season to a school where he is able to play. Some might argue that Dallas got meaningful minutes, but how can anyone think that the experience he got against a team that couldn't beat a good high school team bring any value to his development.

So all here have noticed the poor pre-conference record that Rahe has amassed since his arrival at Weber. It is a trend that becomes more entrenched each year. Maybe there is something in his coaching style that doesn't lend itself to early season victories? Certainly it is obvious to me that his teams are playing better by mid-season than they do in early season. Yet other coaches are able to win early. Is there a flaw in Rahe's coaching that results in this?