SHSU conduct

[Rjones61]

I was going to post this with some of my thoughts about the game, but I think it deserves its own thread.

SHSU had over 150 yards in penalties this game. And you know what? They deserved every single yard.

I have never been so disgusted with the poor sportsmanship displayed by the Bearkat players. I read their board, and many fans seem to think the refs were making up penalties. However, I think that due to only seeing what the camera displayed, they missed a lot of the disgusting misconduct by their players.

How many times did they try to INTENTIONALLY injure Vernon? I caught four attempts.

How many INTENTIONAL facemasks did their players make. I'm not talking "Oops, I grabbed your helmet while making the play". I am talking blatantly reaching out to use the face as leverage. They had at least three calls, but there were more.

How many times did their players push off our players helmets/facemasks after a tackle? Oh, good for you, you made the tackle. No need to be a thug about it. There were dozens of these examples.

How many times did the CBs straight up tackle our receivers when they knew they were about to be beaten.?Many.

How many times did the SHSU intentionally lay a late hit? Way too many that were not called.

I don't know who to blame, K.C. Keeler for creating an undisciplined team, or the thugs that he brought in.

 

[Seattle Eagle]

Hard to argue with this too much. They were a very undisciplined bunch and it was evident by how many times they were penalized. I'm glad we ran up the score on them.

 

[eaglesfootball]

the play where the sam Houston player was pinning Forte down after the play was a cheap shot. As was the cheap facemasks x2 they did on Adams as well as the late hits out of bounds.

 

[Sylvergunsuperman]

And the whole world saw it.

 

[LDopaPDX]

The refs gave every 50/50 call to Eastern. It almost looked like the officiating crew thought they were in Missoula. There was one pass interference call early in the game that was a pure mystery. Also, Eastern ran a full on pick on Kupp's TD that went uncalled... And it was brutal. Not sure how a trained ref can miss that.

Keeler does bring in some dirtbags, and both teams were a little chippy today. I wouldn't put all the blame on the Bearkats; Eastern dishes it out as well as they take it.

I think Eastern wins regardless of a better officiated game, so I'd rather see these refs call it a little more squarely. And with that said, maybe there was a little quid pro quo for all of those absurd chop block calls we got last year in Texas.

 

[EWURanger]

I don't want to go too far down this road, because I think this was an emotional game for both teams. Did SHSU get away with some cheap-shots? Yes. Were they trying to take out Adams? Probably. That's going to happen when you have a running QB who moves out of the pocket a lot. That said, I agree with Dopa, we probably got away with a couple questionable calls today. Don't think it would have changed the outcome much.

 

[Rjones61]

I'm sorry guys, but I can't hand wave this off for players being "emotional" or "a little too chippy". I expect players to get rowdy. There is a normal level of football roughhousing. I expect players to get a little out of hand sometimes. However, SHSU went way above what would be considered emotional and played like deliberate, dirtbag cheaters. This was consistent, deliberate, and inexcusable. I'm not just talking about the calls. EWU played to the level of roughness and emotion you would expect from a football game. SHSU played with the intention to injure and put them out for the season. We are lucky we escaped unscathed.

Did you guys attend the game? I feel there was so much that had to have happened off camera, or else there would be no argument here. I've never seen college football players act so immaturely.

 

[kalm]

I'm sorry guys, but I can't hand wave this off for players being "emotional" or "a little too chippy". I expect players to get rowdy. There is a normal level of football roughhousing. I expect players to get a little out of hand sometimes. However, SHSU went way above what would be considered emotional and played like deliberate, dirtbag cheaters. This was consistent, deliberate, and inexcusable. I'm not just talking about the calls. EWU played to the level of roughness and emotion you would expect from a football game. SHSU played with the intention to injure and put them out for the season. We are lucky we escaped unscathed.

Did you guys attend the game? I feel there was so much that had to have happened off camera, or else there would be no argument here. I've never seen college football players act so immaturely.

I was at the game and it honestly was pretty bad. :nod:

 

[DefendtheRed]

+1

 

[GoldenEagle]

I'm sorry guys, but I can't hand wave this off for players being "emotional" or "a little too chippy". I expect players to get rowdy. There is a normal level of football roughhousing. I expect players to get a little out of hand sometimes. However, SHSU went way above what would be considered emotional and played like deliberate, dirtbag cheaters. This was consistent, deliberate, and inexcusable. I'm not just talking about the calls. EWU played to the level of roughness and emotion you would expect from a football game. SHSU played with the intention to injure and put them out for the season. We are lucky we escaped unscathed.

Did you guys attend the game? I feel there was so much that had to have happened off camera, or else there would be no argument here. I've never seen college football players act so immaturely.

I was at the game and it honestly was pretty bad. :nod:

I agree. Aside from the penalized personal fouls, there were many times when the kats players pinned our guys down after tackles and blatantly tried to rough them up. From the stands it was very obvious. I want to watch the ESPN broadcast and see if those were visible. That went well beyond trash talk and chippiness.

 

[luckyintheorder]

I'm sorry guys, but I can't hand wave this off for players being "emotional" or "a little too chippy". I expect players to get rowdy. There is a normal level of football roughhousing. I expect players to get a little out of hand sometimes. However, SHSU went way above what would be considered emotional and played like deliberate, dirtbag cheaters. This was consistent, deliberate, and inexcusable. I'm not just talking about the calls. EWU played to the level of roughness and emotion you would expect from a football game. SHSU played with the intention to injure and put them out for the season. We are lucky we escaped unscathed.

Did you guys attend the game? I feel there was so much that had to have happened off camera, or else there would be no argument here. I've never seen college football players act so immaturely.

I was at the game and it honestly was pretty bad. :nod:

I agree. Aside from the penalized personal fouls, there were many times when the kats players pinned our guys down after tackles and blatantly tried to rough them up. From the stands it was very obvious. I want to watch the ESPN broadcast and see if those were visible. That went well beyond trash talk and chippiness.

Watched the broadcast and with TV it is hard to see what the camera's aren't covering. What was apparent is that the Kat's had extra curricular activities on nearly every tackle, that most tackles started at the headgear, that ref's were selective about throwing flags and could have easily doubled up the number of penalties by the Kat's. It's telling that over half of the flags involved serious infractions, not just offsides or motion. The incident before half was Forte being thrown to the ground than the LB thug circling back, twisting his helmet (possibly sticking his fingers in his eyes) and than dropping his weight on Forte's midsection with a knee to minimally knock the wind out of him. All away from the play. It was a microcosm event that highlighted the whole game for the Kat's.

 

[luckyintheorder]

The refs gave every 50/50 call to Eastern. It almost looked like the officiating crew thought they were in Missoula. There was one pass interference call early in the game that was a pure mystery. Also, Eastern ran a full on pick on Kupp's TD that went uncalled... And it was brutal. Not sure how a trained ref can miss that.

Keeler does bring in some dirtbags, and both teams were a little chippy today. I wouldn't put all the blame on the Bearkats; Eastern dishes it out as well as they take it.

I think Eastern wins regardless of a better officiated game, so I'd rather see these refs call it a little more squarely. And with that said, maybe there was a little quid pro quo for all of those absurd chop block calls we got last year in Texas.

This post is absurd. :thumbdown: There will be plenty of opportunities for ref's to give the Eags short shrift. Would much rather get the Alabama SEC ref treatment though. Ref's showed a lot of restraint for a first game for SHSU's behaviors and any illusory "picks" that Rod Gilmore kept referring too ad infinatum.

 

[EWURanger]

The refs gave every 50/50 call to Eastern. It almost looked like the officiating crew thought they were in Missoula. There was one pass interference call early in the game that was a pure mystery. Also, Eastern ran a full on pick on Kupp's TD that went uncalled... And it was brutal. Not sure how a trained ref can miss that.

Keeler does bring in some dirtbags, and both teams were a little chippy today. I wouldn't put all the blame on the Bearkats; Eastern dishes it out as well as they take it.

I think Eastern wins regardless of a better officiated game, so I'd rather see these refs call it a little more squarely. And with that said, maybe there was a little quid pro quo for all of those absurd chop block calls we got last year in Texas.

This post is absurd. :thumbdown: There will be plenty of opportunities for ref's to give the Eags short shrift. Would much rather get the Alabama SEC ref treatment though. Ref's showed a lot of restraint for a first game for SHSU's behaviors and any illusory "picks" that Rod Gilmore kept referring too ad infinatum.

I didn't understand what the commentators were getting at on those, either. The way they were trying to explain things, you'd think that it's illegal to run crossing routes. On the first TD grab by Bourne, it was a three-way crossing route where two of the db's ran into one another. There was no EWU receiver there "picking off" the DB. A receiver can't control where the DB runs...ridiculous commentary on that one.

 

[LDopaPDX]

The refs gave every 50/50 call to Eastern. It almost looked like the officiating crew thought they were in Missoula. There was one pass interference call early in the game that was a pure mystery. Also, Eastern ran a full on pick on Kupp's TD that went uncalled... And it was brutal. Not sure how a trained ref can miss that.

Keeler does bring in some dirtbags, and both teams were a little chippy today. I wouldn't put all the blame on the Bearkats; Eastern dishes it out as well as they take it.

I think Eastern wins regardless of a better officiated game, so I'd rather see these refs call it a little more squarely. And with that said, maybe there was a little quid pro quo for all of those absurd chop block calls we got last year in Texas.

This post is absurd. :thumbdown: There will be plenty of opportunities for ref's to give the Eags short shrift. Would much rather get the Alabama SEC ref treatment though. Ref's showed a lot of restraint for a first game for SHSU's behaviors and any illusory "picks" that Rod Gilmore kept referring too ad infinatum.

Sorry, but no. If we were on the receiving end of that officiating, we'd be bitching to high hell. Some of the calls were legit, but there were a couple of mystery calls in there as well. Take the red glasses off and look at the stats if nothing else.

Tell me we didn't run a full on pick when Kupp scores. It is the receivers job not to block off a defender on a route, and he just wiped him out to free up Kupp. It was an obvious pick. We don't need bad calls to win.

Sam Houston State was a chippy, physical team. Nothing wrong with that. And of course I was at the game. I spoke to,quite a few Kat and they were good peeps as well. People need to stop posting this egriz bullshit.

 

[GoldenEagle]

The refs gave every 50/50 call to Eastern. It almost looked like the officiating crew thought they were in Missoula. There was one pass interference call early in the game that was a pure mystery. Also, Eastern ran a full on pick on Kupp's TD that went uncalled... And it was brutal. Not sure how a trained ref can miss that.

Keeler does bring in some dirtbags, and both teams were a little chippy today. I wouldn't put all the blame on the Bearkats; Eastern dishes it out as well as they take it.

I think Eastern wins regardless of a better officiated game, so I'd rather see these refs call it a little more squarely. And with that said, maybe there was a little quid pro quo for all of those absurd chop block calls we got last year in Texas.

This post is absurd. :thumbdown: There will be plenty of opportunities for ref's to give the Eags short shrift. Would much rather get the Alabama SEC ref treatment though. Ref's showed a lot of restraint for a first game for SHSU's behaviors and any illusory "picks" that Rod Gilmore kept referring too ad infinatum.

Sorry, but no. If we were on the receiving end of that officiating, we'd be bitching to high hell. Some of the calls were legit, but there were a couple of mystery calls in there as well. Take the red glasses off and look at the stats if nothing else.

Tell me we didn't run a full on pick when Kupp scores. It is the receivers job not to block off a defender on a route, and he just wiped him out to free up Kupp. It was an obvious pick. We don't need bad calls to win.

Sam Houston State was a chippy, physical team. Nothing wrong with that. And of course I was at the game. I spoke to,quite a few Kat and they were good peeps as well. People need to stop posting this egriz bullshit.

Yes the officials missed that pick and I'm sure the Kat fans are good people. This has nothing to do with the fact that some of the Kat players were cheapshots and I don't think that has any place is the sport. I did not see any EAGS pinning Kat players down and roughing them up.

I doubt that is the way you played the game.

 

[kalm]

The refs gave every 50/50 call to Eastern. It almost looked like the officiating crew thought they were in Missoula. There was one pass interference call early in the game that was a pure mystery. Also, Eastern ran a full on pick on Kupp's TD that went uncalled... And it was brutal. Not sure how a trained ref can miss that.

Keeler does bring in some dirtbags, and both teams were a little chippy today. I wouldn't put all the blame on the Bearkats; Eastern dishes it out as well as they take it.

I think Eastern wins regardless of a better officiated game, so I'd rather see these refs call it a little more squarely. And with that said, maybe there was a little quid pro quo for all of those absurd chop block calls we got last year in Texas.

This post is absurd. :thumbdown: There will be plenty of opportunities for ref's to give the Eags short shrift. Would much rather get the Alabama SEC ref treatment though. Ref's showed a lot of restraint for a first game for SHSU's behaviors and any illusory "picks" that Rod Gilmore kept referring too ad infinatum.

Sorry, but no. If we were on the receiving end of that officiating, we'd be bitching to high hell. Some of the calls were legit, but there were a couple of mystery calls in there as well. Take the red glasses off and look at the stats if nothing else.

Tell me we didn't run a full on pick when Kupp scores. It is the receivers job not to block off a defender on a route, and he just wiped him out to free up Kupp. It was an obvious pick. We don't need bad calls to win.

Sam Houston State was a chippy, physical team. Nothing wrong with that. And of course I was at the game. I spoke to,quite a few Kat and they were good peeps as well. People need to stop posting this egriz bullshit.

Yes the officials missed that pick and I'm sure the Kat fans are good people. This has nothing to do with the fact that some of the Kat players were cheapshots and I don't think that has any place is the sport. I did not see any EAGS pinning Kat players down and roughing them up.

I doubt that is the way you played the game.

Yep. The thread topic was their conduct not how the calls went.

 

[Rjones61]

The refs gave every 50/50 call to Eastern. It almost looked like the officiating crew thought they were in Missoula. There was one pass interference call early in the game that was a pure mystery. Also, Eastern ran a full on pick on Kupp's TD that went uncalled... And it was brutal. Not sure how a trained ref can miss that.

Keeler does bring in some dirtbags, and both teams were a little chippy today. I wouldn't put all the blame on the Bearkats; Eastern dishes it out as well as they take it.

I think Eastern wins regardless of a better officiated game, so I'd rather see these refs call it a little more squarely. And with that said, maybe there was a little quid pro quo for all of those absurd chop block calls we got last year in Texas.

This post is absurd. :thumbdown: There will be plenty of opportunities for ref's to give the Eags short shrift. Would much rather get the Alabama SEC ref treatment though. Ref's showed a lot of restraint for a first game for SHSU's behaviors and any illusory "picks" that Rod Gilmore kept referring too ad infinatum.

Sorry, but no. If we were on the receiving end of that officiating, we'd be bitching to high hell. Some of the calls were legit, but there were a couple of mystery calls in there as well. Take the red glasses off and look at the stats if nothing else.

Tell me we didn't run a full on pick when Kupp scores. It is the receivers job not to block off a defender on a route, and he just wiped him out to free up Kupp. It was an obvious pick. We don't need bad calls to win.

Sam Houston State was a chippy, physical team. Nothing wrong with that. And of course I was at the game. I spoke to,quite a few Kat and they were good peeps as well. People need to stop posting this egriz bullshit.

Yes, there were some no calls on us. But that I'm not here to talk about the penalties. There are no red glasses here. If this were the other way around, I would be calling attention to the misconduct of our players. Last year, you might remember me receiving a lot of heat for calling out Zylstra. There is a difference between a chippy physical team and dirty play. A chippy, physical team lays good hits whenever it can and talks trash. A chippy team does not tackle players then pin them to the ground, using their helmets to stand back up. A chippy team does not reach out for face masks.

I really like the SHSU fans. They are a great fanbase. That is why if this behavior continues through the season, I am confident they will raise hell.