Spokesman Review

[clawman1]

Todays paper is good for the Eags but not so flattering for the thugs in Pullman!
http://www.spokesman.com/
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2016/sep/17/ewu-scores-winning-touchdown-on-fake-field-goal-to/

 

[EWU98]

Oh yah they ripped them a new one and then did it again..my opinion is they were almost asking for it the way they were talking all week. Such a shame. My guess the university will be looking for two new people for jobs...AD and football coach. There goes the budget with the buyouts. So sad because all they have to do is be clean and win some here and there and compete and they would be kings of the world in E. Washington. Those two might just burn Pullman down on their way out the way they are acting.

 

[clawman1]

I never did like Leach very much but the more I read about Moos my level of respect for him goes does. It appears that is where the holier than thou thinking starts. I wonder under what circumstances can the University fire Leech without getting stuck with his fat contract? It will be interesting to hear if the new President and the board will react. These two clowns are making them look bad.

 

[ewueagle2010]

Leach has always been a clown, IMO. As far as Moos, let us not forget where he came from.

The Cougs are a mess. A lot of people were buying into them this year, and I just had a feeling they would disappoint. Still a lot of season left, but I believe their next 3 games are Stanford, Oregon and UCLA. They could easily be 1-5 very quickly.

 

[EWU98]

If they are 1-5...which I think they will be...wonder what the headlines and words coming out of their mouth will be like. I hope they had a morality clause on Leach otherwise they will be on the hook for a lot of money.

 

[FormerEag]

As far as Moos, let us not forget where he came from.

Which makes me wonder about the state of affairs down there. Wonder if things are being swept under the rug and people are looking the other way.

 

[ewueagle2010]

As far as Moos, let us not forget where he came from.

Which makes me wonder about the state of affairs down there. Wonder if things are being swept under the rug and people are looking the other way.

I would bet a lot of money that is the case. They've gotten away with a lot more than people realize and it all boils down to a big time brand name that controls a lot of schools.

 

[Atomic Eagle]

I do know their athletic department is in a significant amount of debt, partially due to the Martin Stadium renovation although maybe the revenue from the PAC 12 network will eventually offset that

 

[LDopaPDX]

I've heard from a lot of people that Pullman and Cheney are very different in how they perceive the students (and athletes) in their towns. Pullman uses very aggressive policing to force WSU folks into a certain way of behaving. Cheney's PD, on the other hand, seems to assign a lot more value to EWU students and allows a certain amount of leeway.

I don't know if that is a factor in all of this, but it might be. Students are far more likely to get jammed up for getting in a scuffle or for drinking in public in Pullman. Some of these WSU cases in the news are far more serious, though, and it would seem this isn't all that relevant based on the offenses. But interesting to note, nonetheless.

 

[scottywashere11]

Given the fractured football market of the inland northwest, the Eastern Eagles looks like a fantastic alternative to Cougar football. I love it. :thumb:

 

[ewueagfan]

Dumpster fire.

 

[Seattle Eagle]

I doubt WSU will let either Moos or Leach go. There's too much money invested in Leach to buy him out of his contract, and I believe most WSU folks are pretty happy with Moos.

On another note, did anyone see the score from the WSU/Idaho game? That was a pathetic showing from the Vandals.

 

[kalm]

I've heard from a lot of people that Pullman and Cheney are very different in how they perceive the students (and athletes) in their towns. Pullman uses very aggressive policing to force WSU folks into a certain way of behaving. Cheney's PD, on the other hand, seems to assign a lot more value to EWU students and allows a certain amount of leeway.

I don't know if that is a factor in all of this, but it might be. Students are far more likely to get jammed up for getting in a scuffle or for drinking in public in Pullman. Some of these WSU cases in the news are far more serious, though, and it would seem this isn't all that relevant based on the offenses. But interesting to note, nonetheless.

Yeah...the incident with the bottle rockets and the kid that got sucker punched and then had his jaw broken by being kicked on the ground is just ugly. This shit can happen here too so I don't want to act holier than thou but you'd like to think that any responsible coach would get all 6 of those kids in a room and have it sorted out which of those dipshit thug asshwipes did the punching and kicking in about 5 minutes and then it's see ya.

Instead the school's first reaction is to blame it on the cops. hno:

 

[eaglesfootball]

maybe there is a thing with singling out football players in Pullman, but it doesn't help the perception when you've got guys doing dumb stuff all the time. Whats going on over there rivals the montana stuff from several years ago.

 

[clawman1]

IMO the guy that comes out of this looking good is the Pullman Chief of police. His response to this has been very professional and rational.
As far as the targeting, in all of these incidences the police were called in, not first on the scene or following someone. Have there been any other athletes "targeted" recently other than football players?
In a town of 30,000 people 20,000 of which are students I can see where more students seem to be "harassed" than permanent residents. Farmers on combines are probably not the rowdy type!

 

[Hambone]

I checked out the website "arrestnation.com" that is referenced in the SR article. Looks like we have only had two athletes from all of the sports at Eastern arrested in the past 5 years. That's as far back as it goes.

 

[LDopaPDX]

I checked out the website "arrestnation.com" that is referenced in the SR article. Looks like we have only had two athletes from all of the sports at Eastern arrested in the past 5 years. That's as far back as it goes.

A couple of things; first, any time you have 80 or so college kids, there's always going to be a couple of troublemakers. You can't avoid that.

Second, and this is purely speculation on my part and I have no evidence to back this up, I think the fact we mostly use local kids from the NW or West Coast that there is more of a community feel. In fact, if you look at some the kids that have been in major trouble, it's SoCal kids. When you grew up close to Cheney and your parents and friends can come watch you play, it seems like you attend to your personal affairs more diligently. Also, I think FCS players don't have the same sense of entitlement as BCS level players.

WSU has a lot of kids from all over who probably had never heard of Pullman until they were recruited. There is no sense of "home" for them in Pullman, so they don't feel included in the community.

No idea if there is any accuracy in anything I just wrote, but it seems reasonable.

 

[Atomic Eagle]

I checked out the website "arrestnation.com" that is referenced in the SR article. Looks like we have only had two athletes from all of the sports at Eastern arrested in the past 5 years. That's as far back as it goes.

A couple of things; first, any time you have 80 or so college kids, there's always going to be a couple of troublemakers. You can't avoid that.

Second, and this is purely speculation on my part and I have no evidence to back this up, I think the fact we mostly use local kids from the NW or West Coast that there is more of a community feel. In fact, if you look at some the kids that have been in major trouble, it's SoCal kids. When you grew up close to Cheney and your parents and friends can come watch you play, it seems like you attend to your personal affairs more diligently. Also, I think FCS players don't have the same sense of entitlement as BCS level players.

WSU has a lot of kids from all over who probably had never heard of Pullman until they were recruited. There is no sense of "home" for them in Pullman, so they don't feel included in the community.

No idea if there is any accuracy in anything I just wrote, but it seems reasonable.

I'm not sure if I buy this reasoning. As far as the football program goes, we have far more kids proportionally from the west side of the state and California than we do the greater Spokane area. In fact, I believe we only have a handful of players that played in the GSL. The rosters of the other sports may have a much more regional flavor, however.

I think the reason we don't have a lot of student-athletes getting in trouble is due to many factors, but largely recruiting the right kids, the family feel of the athletic department in general, and a culture of accountability.

 

[EWURanger]

Intersting website. Out of curiosity, I looked at WSU's list. It's more extensive than I would have thought. There's a certain WR on there twice. How does a kid get arrested twice and not get dismissed?

Basketball

Silvey Dominguez (May 8, 2015)
Brett Kingma (October 20, 2012)
DeAngelo Casto (March 22, 2011)
Klay Thompson (March 3, 2011)
Reggie Moore (January 4, 2011)

Football

Robert Barber (September 16, 2016)
T.J. Fehoko (September 16, 2016)
Logan Tago (September 12, 2016)
Shalom Luani (August 24, 2016)
Calvin Green (March 6, 2016)
Jamal Morrow (January 17, 2016)
Daniel Ekuale (September 7, 2014)
Theron West (September 7, 2014)
Drew Loftus (July 31, 2014)
Ivan McLennan (June 15, 2014)
Daquawn Brown (March 7, 2014)
Austin Brown (March 7, 2014)
Gabe Marks (February 8, 2014)
Daquawn Brown (February 2, 2014)
Chester Su’a (November 7, 2013)
Emmitt Su’a-Kalio (October 3, 2013)
Logan Mayes (May 16, 2013)
Toni Pole (May 12, 2013)
Teondray Caldwell (April 28, 2013)
Gabe Marks (February 17, 2013)
Drew Loftus (February 1, 2013)
Leon Brooks (January 27, 2013)
Chester Su’a (November 9, 2012)
Anthony Laurenzi (July 22, 2012)
Travis Long (July 20, 2012)
Spencer Waseem (April 11, 2012)
Denzell Dotson (April 8, 2012)
Sekope Kaufusi (February 29, 2012)
Zach Koepp (February 12, 2012)
C.J. Mizell (February 6, 2012)
Laaulialemalietoa “Lawrence” Tuioti (October 22, 2011)
Louis Bland (May 24, 2011)
Louis Bland (February 26, 2011)
Tracy Clark (February 9, 2011)
Andre Barrington (October 10, 2010)
Jamal Atofau (October 10, 2010)
James Montgomery (September 16, 2010)

http://arrestnation.com/teamsschools/washington-state-university/

 

[EWURanger]

I think the reason we don't have a lot of student-athletes getting in trouble is due to many factors, but largely recruiting the right kids, the family feel of the athletic department in general, and a culture of accountability.

This - especially the accountability part. From what I can recall (the list below is missing one), all of these kids were dismissed immediately.

Football

LaShawn Jameison (January 22, 2016)
Chandler Gayton (May 11, 2012)

http://arrestnation.com/teamsschools/eastern-washington-university/