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SUU gets commit from instate recruit
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flylikeasparrow
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Good for SUU to pick up an instate recruit. The talent level in the state has potential but nothing beat the talent that we have been bringing in for the last couple of years. Yes I support local kids (since that is what communities like to see) but I would take a national three/four star recruit over a local thee star any day.
oldrunner
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I'm sure he will be fine and they will develop him into the kind of player they want. All he really has to do in that system anyway, is foul hard and foul often. They will bring in some guard to take 30 shots per game. A big man is not going to score for them much. :lol: :lol:
Instate recruits are a funny thing. There are a few that have some serious talent, usually the top tier of the recruiting pool, who are mostly shooting for the Y, Utah, or USU (kinda seems that LK is getting the recruiting edge over USU lately. Stew has lived off of Utah recruits over the years, which says something about the style of play in the state and the level of athleticism here. Utah has great basketball pedigree.).
Then there are those players who have a glimpse of talent, but a year or two at a JC/CC would be a better option than hitting up a four year right away. Skyler Halford comes to mind as an example of this type of player. He started at USU, went on a mission, came back to SLCC, and now, after two really awesome years there, is now at the Y. Then there are those players who are good enough to play DI, but not at a high major or even mid-major level. These kids usually end up at SUU, UVU, and Dixie. These are the Wild Card guys. They are good enough to play college basketball, but haven't gotten as much appeal as say the Haws types.
Parsons, who signed with SUU last year is a great example of this type of kid and the guy who just graduated from SUU from Davis High School (I can't think of his name right now. LOOOOL Yikes). Parson's from South Sevier has talent, Weber was interested, but not to the point of giving him a scholarship. Does he have the ability to become a star? He is a capable athlete and a heck of a basketball player. He was one of the top basketball players in the state, but due to competition, area of the state he played in, and worst of all AAU affiliation, he never got much recruiting notice.
I think that happens to a number of Utah players. UVU has a kid who played 1A ball who has a lot of potential and probably will end up becoming quite the college player but due to the recruiting process never got much attention. Weber use to take full advantage of these types. Gems in the rough, actually, we still do. Damian Lillard was definitely under recruited. Another was Bruce Collins from Rock Springs. The difference now is that we are not just looking for those rough diamonds here in Utah, but nationwide. McKay Cannon is one and so was another HUGE Rahe recruit named JC who was a serious thorn in our sides once a year, but these are both local guys. Gratefully, behind the excellent play of Dezmond Harris and Art we made sure JC's senior year game against us was a L. Daviin Davis would be a nationwide diamond in the rough, and dare I say Scotty Bamforth?
What I'm getting at is that you never know. That idiot catcat made a similar mention in another thread which is true (he is still a complete sod). Look at Shai Fields. a HUGE recruit that couldn't cut it and is now where (last I checked at a CC getting reserve mins)? I really believe we missed on Mike Brown. But that is me. Anyway, recruiting is a delicate and interesting matter. I like how Rahe and Co. look for more than basketball talent, but also, mental acumen, basketball IQ, toughness, work ethic, and academic ability. Oh and probably most important, potential for greatness.
Every player that comes into Weber has a lot of upside and potential, but it is up to them to work to achieve that development and upside. The coaches will help them, push them, and do what they can, but it comes down to the player. Many Wildcats just don't get there.
Then there are those players who have a glimpse of talent, but a year or two at a JC/CC would be a better option than hitting up a four year right away. Skyler Halford comes to mind as an example of this type of player. He started at USU, went on a mission, came back to SLCC, and now, after two really awesome years there, is now at the Y. Then there are those players who are good enough to play DI, but not at a high major or even mid-major level. These kids usually end up at SUU, UVU, and Dixie. These are the Wild Card guys. They are good enough to play college basketball, but haven't gotten as much appeal as say the Haws types.
Parsons, who signed with SUU last year is a great example of this type of kid and the guy who just graduated from SUU from Davis High School (I can't think of his name right now. LOOOOL Yikes). Parson's from South Sevier has talent, Weber was interested, but not to the point of giving him a scholarship. Does he have the ability to become a star? He is a capable athlete and a heck of a basketball player. He was one of the top basketball players in the state, but due to competition, area of the state he played in, and worst of all AAU affiliation, he never got much recruiting notice.
I think that happens to a number of Utah players. UVU has a kid who played 1A ball who has a lot of potential and probably will end up becoming quite the college player but due to the recruiting process never got much attention. Weber use to take full advantage of these types. Gems in the rough, actually, we still do. Damian Lillard was definitely under recruited. Another was Bruce Collins from Rock Springs. The difference now is that we are not just looking for those rough diamonds here in Utah, but nationwide. McKay Cannon is one and so was another HUGE Rahe recruit named JC who was a serious thorn in our sides once a year, but these are both local guys. Gratefully, behind the excellent play of Dezmond Harris and Art we made sure JC's senior year game against us was a L. Daviin Davis would be a nationwide diamond in the rough, and dare I say Scotty Bamforth?
What I'm getting at is that you never know. That idiot catcat made a similar mention in another thread which is true (he is still a complete sod). Look at Shai Fields. a HUGE recruit that couldn't cut it and is now where (last I checked at a CC getting reserve mins)? I really believe we missed on Mike Brown. But that is me. Anyway, recruiting is a delicate and interesting matter. I like how Rahe and Co. look for more than basketball talent, but also, mental acumen, basketball IQ, toughness, work ethic, and academic ability. Oh and probably most important, potential for greatness.
Every player that comes into Weber has a lot of upside and potential, but it is up to them to work to achieve that development and upside. The coaches will help them, push them, and do what they can, but it comes down to the player. Many Wildcats just don't get there.
SWeberCat02
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I've always thought Utah HS basketball talent was overrated. The best prep athletes in the state play football. Recently Utah was ranked 11th in the nation for HS football talent. And just look at how many prep athletes from Utah have gone on to play in the NFL, and many have had very good careers. And then compare that to how many have gone on to play in the NBA. Very few have made it, and not one has had a very good career. Who is the best NBA player from a Utah HS? Shawn Bradley? Enough said. BYU regularly gets the best Utah HS talent and has had very little success on the national stage. And their best run was on the backs of James Fredette, who wasn't a Utah HS product. So I have no problem at all with the Weber staff recruiting almost exclusively outside of the state. :twocents:
SWeberCat02 said:
:clap: :clap: Agreed!! Get the best you can.
oldrunner
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If we are going to get an instate kid in the future, he will need to be good enough to play a lot, if not start. Otherwise, you are just asking for trouble. The only instate kids who have been good enough to play for us recently, have been LDS kids who have wanted to play for BYU their whole lives. The few that haven't fit that mold, we have recruited. We do get a few of those. However, we have found much more fertile recruiting grounds elsewhere. We will always look at instate kids first because they are the closest to us. we should never waist time on a kid who can not help us or who views us as a second or third choice. I think that our coaches are doing a good job on all fronts, regarding instate players. 
PURPLEFORLIFE
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I don't think we should care where our recruits are from as long as they are good and want to be here, that is enough for me. I really love our new recruits and I can't wait for the weekend to be over so that we can find out whether or not Sherman is making his way to Ogden. He would be the cherry on top of this awesome recruiting class.
