SUU is Dumb

[Greatx3]

SO with Lamar now announcing they are leaving the WAC, SUU will be in a conference of 5 teams. :rofl:
SFA
Abeline Christian
Tarleton
Dixie
and SUU
Sam Houston is jumping to FBS.

Would anyone want SUU back in the Sky? I would rather have Dixie personally.

 

[oldrunner]

SO with Lamar now announcing they are leaving the WAC, SUU will be in a conference of 5 teams. :rofl:
SFA
Abeline Christian
Tarleton
Dixie
and SUU
Sam Houston is jumping to FBS.

Would anyone want SUU back in the Sky? I would rather have Dixie personally.

I don't think the BSC will be looking to expand any time soon. However, you are right that Dixie has so, so, so much more potential than SUU. Over the next ten years I can see SUU moving back to D11 or lower. There is just nothing there. I was happy to see them leave. The WAC is on life support and has been for quite a while. They also may be dropping down or out soon. Maybe the WAC will try to get UNCo or Sac. Although, they are still centered in Texas.

 

[the dan]

The FCS has been in turmoil since the ripples of Oklahoma and Texas moving the SEC trickled down. Weber is lucky enough to be in one of the few conferences not affected, but the FCS as a whole has taken a huge hit the last year. Losing Sam Houston, JMU, and Jacksonville State (to a lesser degree) is a major blow IMO. And now there is a number of conferences struggling to survive or remain relevant: WAC, Southland, Big South, ASUN, MEAC, Ohio Valley. The NEC just admitted a tiny D2 school.

And despite all this, there is talk of expanding the playoffs. Outside of the Big Sky, MVFC (who inexplicably added Murray State)CAA, Ivy, and SWAC, the FCS is a total mess right now. North Dakota State might win the next 5 championships without breaking a sweat.

 

[Chex]

You would think more dominos will fall. I would think SFA would want to go to Southland if not all the Texas schools. This leaves SUU and Dixie State out on their butts.

Bet SUU is getting ready to come back on bended knee to beg the Big Sky to let them back in. Probably one of the dumbest decisions I’ve ever seen, leaving a stable top-level FCS conference for a misfit conference that was as steady as a house of cards by a fan.

It will be interesting to see how it plays out.

 

[oldrunner]

The FCS has been in turmoil since the ripples of Oklahoma and Texas moving the SEC trickled down. Weber is lucky enough to be in one of the few conferences not affected, but the FCS as a whole has taken a huge hit the last year. Losing Sam Houston, JMU, and Jacksonville State (to a lesser degree) is a major blow IMO. And now there is a number of conferences struggling to survive or remain relevant: WAC, Southland, Big South, ASUN, MEAC, Ohio Valley. The NEC just admitted a tiny D2 school.

And despite all this, there is talk of expanding the playoffs. Outside of the Big Sky, MVFC (who inexplicably added Murray State)CAA, Ivy, and SWAC, the FCS is a total mess right now. North Dakota State might win the next 5 championships without breaking a sweat.

I think a lot of programs are waiting for the next shoe to drop from the NCAA. In football, the power 5 teams are running their own show now, as it is. I think a lot of people are expecting the consolidation of all, non P5, into one D1 system. As bowl games become less and less relevant, many expect playoffs for all levels. Bowl games will become like the NIT in basketball. These things just seem to happen slowly. When the consolidation happens, there will be many of the lower FCS programs that choose to go D11. I expect that SUU will be in that group. like I said before, there's just nothing there.

 

[SWeberCat02]

SO with Lamar now announcing they are leaving the WAC, SUU will be in a conference of 5 teams. :rofl:
SFA
Abeline Christian
Tarleton
Dixie
and SUU
Sam Houston is jumping to FBS.

Would anyone want SUU back in the Sky? I would rather have Dixie personally.

Incarnate Word is a member. WAC will have 8 teams in 2022 (Sam Houston will still officially be a member but will not be eligible for the playoffs), and 6 in 2023 (with Sam Houston and Lamar leaving).

SUU just can't consistently compete in the Big Sky. I don't think they'd admit to it, but their ability to compete had to factor into moving. Seems like a bad move to leave a very stable conference for an unstable one, but it's probably a good move for them.

 

[Chex]

SO with Lamar now announcing they are leaving the WAC, SUU will be in a conference of 5 teams. :rofl:
SFA
Abeline Christian
Tarleton
Dixie
and SUU
Sam Houston is jumping to FBS.

Would anyone want SUU back in the Sky? I would rather have Dixie personally.

Incarnate Word is a member. WAC will have 8 teams in 2022 (Sam Houston will still officially be a member but will not be eligible for the playoffs), and 6 in 2023 (with Sam Houston and Lamar leaving).

SUU just can't consistently compete in the Big Sky. I don't think they'd admit to it, but their ability to compete had to factor into moving. Seems like a bad move to leave a very stable conference for an unstable one, but it's probably a good move for them.

Not sure about the FCS conference rules, can the WAC still play football with 6 teams? Is that the minimum? I still see SFA and some other Texas schools bolting for the Southland, so the WAC is in a very precarious situation for 2023. If the WAC does disband, SUU and Utah Tech (formerly Dixie State) will have to play as FCS Independents…not sure they can pull that off long.

Being a bottom feeder in a stable conference probably sounds better to SUU now than not knowing what you will do if the WAC goes down. The University and AD put there athletics in a bad position.

 

[oldrunner]

I think a conference needs 6 FCS football teams to qualify for an auto bid. However, at large bids would still be in play. If the WAC goes to less than 6 football programs it would be the same as being independent, with four known games every year. I'm sure that the WAC will do everything they can to stay at 6 or more football teams. If they are not able to do it, who knows what might happen. SUU and Dixie could be traveling to the east coast for league games.

If UVU ever developed a football program, they would be a good fit for the BSC. However, I don't think the BSC should expand any time soon.

 

[Greatx3]

SO with Lamar now announcing they are leaving the WAC, SUU will be in a conference of 5 teams. :rofl:
SFA
Abeline Christian
Tarleton
Dixie
and SUU
Sam Houston is jumping to FBS.

Would anyone want SUU back in the Sky? I would rather have Dixie personally.

Incarnate Word is a member. WAC will have 8 teams in 2022 (Sam Houston will still officially be a member but will not be eligible for the playoffs), and 6 in 2023 (with Sam Houston and Lamar leaving).

SUU just can't consistently compete in the Big Sky. I don't think they'd admit to it, but their ability to compete had to factor into moving. Seems like a bad move to leave a very stable conference for an unstable one, but it's probably a good move for them.

I got my list right off the official WAC football website and they didnt have Incarnate Word listed and so neither do I.

 

[SWeberCat02]

SO with Lamar now announcing they are leaving the WAC, SUU will be in a conference of 5 teams. :rofl:
SFA
Abeline Christian
Tarleton
Dixie
and SUU
Sam Houston is jumping to FBS.

Would anyone want SUU back in the Sky? I would rather have Dixie personally.

Incarnate Word is a member. WAC will have 8 teams in 2022 (Sam Houston will still officially be a member but will not be eligible for the playoffs), and 6 in 2023 (with Sam Houston and Lamar leaving).

SUU just can't consistently compete in the Big Sky. I don't think they'd admit to it, but their ability to compete had to factor into moving. Seems like a bad move to leave a very stable conference for an unstable one, but it's probably a good move for them.

I got my list right off the official WAC football website and they didnt have Incarnate Word listed and so neither do I.

I should have said "Incarnate Word will be a member starting in 2022." Same with SUU and UTA. UTA doesn't have a football program.

 

[Greatx3]

SO with Lamar now announcing they are leaving the WAC, SUU will be in a conference of 5 teams. :rofl:
SFA
Abeline Christian
Tarleton
Dixie
and SUU
Sam Houston is jumping to FBS.

Would anyone want SUU back in the Sky? I would rather have Dixie personally.

Incarnate Word is a member. WAC will have 8 teams in 2022 (Sam Houston will still officially be a member but will not be eligible for the playoffs), and 6 in 2023 (with Sam Houston and Lamar leaving).

SUU just can't consistently compete in the Big Sky. I don't think they'd admit to it, but their ability to compete had to factor into moving. Seems like a bad move to leave a very stable conference for an unstable one, but it's probably a good move for them.

I got my list right off the official WAC football website and they didnt have Incarnate Word listed and so neither do I.

I should have said "Incarnate Word will be a member starting in 2022." Same with SUU and UTA. UTA doesn't have a football program.

Oh gotcha. To be honest I didnt go to Incarnate words website to find out but I guess i should have..
My point really doesnt change though and that is this, the WAC is an unstable dumpster fire and I hope SUU enjoys their seat on the titanic. Good riddance to the thunder chickens.

 

[SWeberCat02]

The WAC has been written off for three decades, but it's always survived and isn't going anywhere. They'll have 15 full members in 2022 and 12 in 2023. Except for football they're a better conference than the Big Sky, including in basketball. In football, I think they'll do what it takes to keep an auto bid. UTRGV plans to add football no later than 2025 and UTA has discussed restarting their program. Having WAC football around is a good thing for the Big Sky. It provides more out of conference opponents that will actually travel to play Big Sky schools. All that said, it is a questionable decision for SUU to leave a very stable conference for one that always seems to have movement. But I think they're trading stability for a better opportunity to compete in football, to be in the same conference as UT Tech and UVU, and like I said, the WAC is probably the better conference in most sports.

 

[oldrunner]

The WAC has been written off for three decades, but it's always survived and isn't going anywhere. They'll have 15 full members in 2022 and 12 in 2023. Except for football they're a better conference than the Big Sky, including in basketball. In football, I think they'll do what it takes to keep an auto bid. UTRGV plans to add football no later than 2025 and UTA has discussed restarting their program. Having WAC football around is a good thing for the Big Sky. It provides more out of conference opponents that will actually travel to play Big Sky schools. All that said, it is a questionable decision for SUU to leave a very stable conference for one that always seems to have movement. But I think they're trading stability for a better opportunity to compete in football, to be in the same conference as UT Tech and UVU, and like I said, the WAC is probably the better conference in most sports.

You are very kind to the WAC. They have survived, that much is true. Nobody really knows what they might look like in years to come. It could work out well for our neighbors to the south or the dumpster fire could explode. It's a total unknown.

 

[Greatx3]

The WAC has been written off for three decades, but it's always survived and isn't going anywhere. They'll have 15 full members in 2022 and 12 in 2023. Except for football they're a better conference than the Big Sky, including in basketball. In football, I think they'll do what it takes to keep an auto bid. UTRGV plans to add football no later than 2025 and UTA has discussed restarting their program. Having WAC football around is a good thing for the Big Sky. It provides more out of conference opponents that will actually travel to play Big Sky schools. All that said, it is a questionable decision for SUU to leave a very stable conference for one that always seems to have movement. But I think they're trading stability for a better opportunity to compete in football, to be in the same conference as UT Tech and UVU, and like I said, the WAC is probably the better conference in most sports.

Ok I admit I am NOT the WAC homer that you apparently are. I think its great they are giving it a go at football but I wouldnt want my team to be looking at joining that tain wreck ever! SInce this is a football thread then that is what I am talking about as far as the WAC. I dont give a damn about their basketball or any of their other sports or how they compare to the BSC in those. I am comparing football only. :twocents:

 

[SWeberCat02]

The WAC has been written off for three decades, but it's always survived and isn't going anywhere. They'll have 15 full members in 2022 and 12 in 2023. Except for football they're a better conference than the Big Sky, including in basketball. In football, I think they'll do what it takes to keep an auto bid. UTRGV plans to add football no later than 2025 and UTA has discussed restarting their program. Having WAC football around is a good thing for the Big Sky. It provides more out of conference opponents that will actually travel to play Big Sky schools. All that said, it is a questionable decision for SUU to leave a very stable conference for one that always seems to have movement. But I think they're trading stability for a better opportunity to compete in football, to be in the same conference as UT Tech and UVU, and like I said, the WAC is probably the better conference in most sports.

Ok I admit I am NOT the WAC homer that you apparently are. I think its great they are giving it a go at football but I wouldnt want my team to be looking at joining that tain wreck ever! SInce this is a football thread then that is what I am talking about as far as the WAC. I dont give a damn about their basketball or any of their other sports or how they compare to the BSC in those. I am comparing football only. :twocents:

You titled the thread SUU is dumb. There's a lot more to their decision than football. And if you're going to argue something at least know what you're talking about. Like who's actually going to be playing football in the WAC.

 

[Greatx3]

The WAC has been written off for three decades, but it's always survived and isn't going anywhere. They'll have 15 full members in 2022 and 12 in 2023. Except for football they're a better conference than the Big Sky, including in basketball. In football, I think they'll do what it takes to keep an auto bid. UTRGV plans to add football no later than 2025 and UTA has discussed restarting their program. Having WAC football around is a good thing for the Big Sky. It provides more out of conference opponents that will actually travel to play Big Sky schools. All that said, it is a questionable decision for SUU to leave a very stable conference for one that always seems to have movement. But I think they're trading stability for a better opportunity to compete in football, to be in the same conference as UT Tech and UVU, and like I said, the WAC is probably the better conference in most sports.

Ok I admit I am NOT the WAC homer that you apparently are. I think its great they are giving it a go at football but I wouldnt want my team to be looking at joining that tain wreck ever! SInce this is a football thread then that is what I am talking about as far as the WAC. I dont give a damn about their basketball or any of their other sports or how they compare to the BSC in those. I am comparing football only. :twocents:

You titled the thread SUU is dumb. There's a lot more to their decision than football. And if you're going to argue something at least know what you're talking about. Like who's actually going to be playing football in the WAC.

And you wonder why this fan board is dead? Heaven forbid fans have opinions that differ from yours.

 

[Greatx3]

The WAC has been written off for three decades, but it's always survived and isn't going anywhere. They'll have 15 full members in 2022 and 12 in 2023. Except for football they're a better conference than the Big Sky, including in basketball. In football, I think they'll do what it takes to keep an auto bid. UTRGV plans to add football no later than 2025 and UTA has discussed restarting their program. Having WAC football around is a good thing for the Big Sky. It provides more out of conference opponents that will actually travel to play Big Sky schools. All that said, it is a questionable decision for SUU to leave a very stable conference for one that always seems to have movement. But I think they're trading stability for a better opportunity to compete in football, to be in the same conference as UT Tech and UVU, and like I said, the WAC is probably the better conference in most sports.

:facepalm: