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Thurs, Jan 29: WSU @ ISU
- Thread starter weberwildcat
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Not a lot of talk coming from their forum right now... Weird?!?
weberwildcat
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utards said:
I agree, they are pretty cool.
IHateBengals
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utards said:
So according to UrbanDictionary.com, a grom is a beginner at surfing...?
I forgot about the sweet oceans that Idaho has, maybe I'll check them out after Weber beats the Bengals.
Or maybe a Pocatello grom is somebody who isn't as good at growing potatoes as their neighbors are...
You crazy Idahoans
Two Weber State wins should be enough to quell any talk of Groms! Lol, ISU a school of High Academic Achievement... What a JOKE!
I was just looking over last years Box Scores between the two teams, and am amazed at how much has changed between them. Granted, ISU pretty much has the sign guards, but their forwards and big men have changed. While Weber's entire team has changed, excpet for Panos, McCoy, Morris and D-Will. I would definitely argue that Weber is the faster and better shooting team, whereas, ISU is tall and aggressive. These two teams are perhaps the two best defensive teams in the conference... We should all expect low scoring games, but really good ones. The only way that the games aren't low-scoring, is if Weber breaks the Zone by hitting their threes, cutting down on TO's and PF's, and passing the ball with precision and speed, Oh Weber must be more aggressive and/or by penetrating and slashing. ISU could score a lot of points, if they are able to get the ball into the paint consistently, cause foul trouble for Weber's Big men, and/or capitalize off of TO's. They do have a couple of long range threats also. I think the key to beating ISU is keeping MOrgan and Stucki contained. Stucki...he isn't very talented, but definitely is a hard-nosed competitor who wont give up. As a fan of basketball I like that, but as a fan of Weber, I've always seen him as a thorn that irritates the Cats, with his defense, slashing, timing (he always seems to hit big shots at in-opportune times), and passing.
weberwildcat
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ISU has the tallest team in the Big Sky. They have played 21 games and they have only out rebounded the opponent 9 times.
Is it because their big men aren't very good, or is it because their big men are young? I know Stein and the duder from CEU are both upper-classmen, but the rest of them, aren't they fresh and Sophs (NOt the 7' he is a Jr, but really uncoordinated, much like Danko)?
weberwildcat
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talhadfoursteals said:
Steijn doesnt start anymore...and yes their bigs actually are very Danko-esk. But their big guards are good.
weberwildcat
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Idaho State Journal Blog
Postgame: Sacramento St. 72, Idaho St. 69
Categories: Featured, Idaho State men's basketball posts
Written By: krobinett
Yeah, that’s a Sponge Bob picture attached to this blog.
After losing to Sacramento State on Saturday and hitting rock bottom, Idaho State deserves no better.
With the win, the Hornets snapped the country’s longest losing streak at 14-games. With the loss, the Bengals became the answer to a trivia question and the first Big Sky team to lose to Sacramento State all season.
Ouch. And to think it happened two days after Idaho State won its biggest conference game of the year at Northern Arizona and improved to 4-2 in Big Sky play.
The Bengals played poor defense and poor offense in the first half to fall behind by 15 points. In the second half, they improved immensely on defense and made it a game but didn’t improve enough on offense to win.
They pulled to within three points multiple times, but couldn’t ever make a shot to pull even.
Amorrow Morgan, who scored 19 points, again was the team’s only source of offense. There was no ball movement. There was no screening. There was nothing other than five individuals trying to beat their defender to the basket or grab an offensive rebound.
Unlike the past three games in which Idaho State moved the ball around and looked crisp on offense, the Bengals looked like they did at the start of the season.
Now, the Bengals are back at the “middle tier” stage. No more can they be called contenders in the Big Sky. Portland State and Weber State didn’t lose at Sacramento State. Even though the Hornets looked good enough to beat one or two other opponents at home this season, this will go down as a loss Idaho State can’t make up in the standings.
Quickly:
Player of the game:
I was really impressed with Mike Marcial. The Sac. St. backup point guard came in and directed a perfect slowdown offense throughout much of the game. On most possessions, Marcial held the ball near midcourt for 20 seconds before calling out a play and trying to score during the final 15 seconds of the shot clock. He set everything up and delivered five assists, which was one more than Idaho State dished out as a team.
Play of the game:
There were two. The first was the first play of the game. Amorrow Morgan missed a runner and Deividas Busma followed it with a monster dunk. Sac. St. coach Brian Katz was so displeased with the play that he called a timeout 16 seconds into the game. But the good start turned out to be a bad omen for the Bengals. During the timeout, you could see the intensity fade from Idaho State’s sideline. Much like after a fantastic start at Green Bay, the Bengals thought the game was going to be easy and lost.
Second, with 1:43 remaining and the Bengals down just three points, Amorrow Morgan dribbled into a triple-team and lost the ball. The Hornets took the ball the other way and got an easy layup. Instead of possibly tying the game up, the Bengals fell five behind. Why Morgan tried to force the issue in that situation, or why no one on Idaho State’s bench called a timeout when they saw his desperate situation is an interesting question.
Reason to hope:
Coming into this road trip, who really thought Idaho State would come back home with a sweep? A split was always the most realistic expectation, the Bengals simply went in reverse by winning the tough game and losing the easy one.
Reason to mope:
Idaho State’s momentum is completely gone, and that win over Northern Arizona has been made meaningless. It will take a win over Portland State to make up for a loss at Sacramento State.
Looking ahead:
Weber State at Holt Arena should still be a good game, but it lost some of its luster with this loss. No longer is it a Big Sky heavyweight fight. Now it’s a game Idaho State really needs to win.
Postgame: Sacramento St. 72, Idaho St. 69
Categories: Featured, Idaho State men's basketball posts
Written By: krobinett
Yeah, that’s a Sponge Bob picture attached to this blog.
After losing to Sacramento State on Saturday and hitting rock bottom, Idaho State deserves no better.
With the win, the Hornets snapped the country’s longest losing streak at 14-games. With the loss, the Bengals became the answer to a trivia question and the first Big Sky team to lose to Sacramento State all season.
Ouch. And to think it happened two days after Idaho State won its biggest conference game of the year at Northern Arizona and improved to 4-2 in Big Sky play.
The Bengals played poor defense and poor offense in the first half to fall behind by 15 points. In the second half, they improved immensely on defense and made it a game but didn’t improve enough on offense to win.
They pulled to within three points multiple times, but couldn’t ever make a shot to pull even.
Amorrow Morgan, who scored 19 points, again was the team’s only source of offense. There was no ball movement. There was no screening. There was nothing other than five individuals trying to beat their defender to the basket or grab an offensive rebound.
Unlike the past three games in which Idaho State moved the ball around and looked crisp on offense, the Bengals looked like they did at the start of the season.
Now, the Bengals are back at the “middle tier” stage. No more can they be called contenders in the Big Sky. Portland State and Weber State didn’t lose at Sacramento State. Even though the Hornets looked good enough to beat one or two other opponents at home this season, this will go down as a loss Idaho State can’t make up in the standings.
Quickly:
Player of the game:
I was really impressed with Mike Marcial. The Sac. St. backup point guard came in and directed a perfect slowdown offense throughout much of the game. On most possessions, Marcial held the ball near midcourt for 20 seconds before calling out a play and trying to score during the final 15 seconds of the shot clock. He set everything up and delivered five assists, which was one more than Idaho State dished out as a team.
Play of the game:
There were two. The first was the first play of the game. Amorrow Morgan missed a runner and Deividas Busma followed it with a monster dunk. Sac. St. coach Brian Katz was so displeased with the play that he called a timeout 16 seconds into the game. But the good start turned out to be a bad omen for the Bengals. During the timeout, you could see the intensity fade from Idaho State’s sideline. Much like after a fantastic start at Green Bay, the Bengals thought the game was going to be easy and lost.
Second, with 1:43 remaining and the Bengals down just three points, Amorrow Morgan dribbled into a triple-team and lost the ball. The Hornets took the ball the other way and got an easy layup. Instead of possibly tying the game up, the Bengals fell five behind. Why Morgan tried to force the issue in that situation, or why no one on Idaho State’s bench called a timeout when they saw his desperate situation is an interesting question.
Reason to hope:
Coming into this road trip, who really thought Idaho State would come back home with a sweep? A split was always the most realistic expectation, the Bengals simply went in reverse by winning the tough game and losing the easy one.
Reason to mope:
Idaho State’s momentum is completely gone, and that win over Northern Arizona has been made meaningless. It will take a win over Portland State to make up for a loss at Sacramento State.
Looking ahead:
Weber State at Holt Arena should still be a good game, but it lost some of its luster with this loss. No longer is it a Big Sky heavyweight fight. Now it’s a game Idaho State really needs to win.
weberwildcat1
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Gameday!!
WSU back to ISU once again!!!
We've lost 3 of the last 4 in Poca. I think this year we get it done!
X-factor being the WSU road crowd.
WSU back to ISU once again!!!
We've lost 3 of the last 4 in Poca. I think this year we get it done!
X-factor being the WSU road crowd.
weberwildcat
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Post game:
Weber State coach Randy Rahe pulled Pocatello High graduate Nick Hansen aside for a little talk before his homecoming game against Idaho State on Thursday at Holt Arena.
"All I told him was, 'Hey, go put a smile on your face. Go have fun. Enjoy it,'" Rahe said.
Hansen got the message.
Following the Wildcats' 76-67 overtime win, the junior left the locker room with his College of Southern Idaho backpack slung over his shoulder and talked as if the game was no big deal.
"It just kind of had the feel of every other game," Hansen said. "You have to have that mentality coming into the game and just live in the moment."
Hansen played 27 minutes in his return to the Gate City, scoring six points on 2-of-4 shooting from behind the 3-point line.
Though he did make a point of giving the pregame talk, Rahe wasn't too worried about Hansen.
"Sometimes kids come home, they have their family, and they get too tense and they try too hard," Rahe said. "I wasn't too worried about it because Nick is such a mature kid. I knew he'd handle it. He played really good tonight."
Rather than talk about beating his hometown team, though, Hansen was more pleased that he had another chance to play against Century High graduate Matt Stucki, who was a senior when Hansen was a sophomore at Poky.
"What a player. He had a great night, and I'm just proud of Matt," Hansen said. "He's a good friend of mine."
Stucki returned the compliment to his former cross-town rival turned Big Sky foe.
"He hit some big shots for them," Stucki said, "and he's a good get for them from Pocatello."
Busma sits, Caspari excels
Idaho State starting center Deividas Busma started against Weber State, but only stayed in for three minutes.
That came as quite the surprise condisering the junior didn't injure himself or get in foul trouble.
Idaho State coach Joe O'Brien simply disliked Busma's early defensive effort so much that he benched him for the remainder of the game. During his three minutes, Busma backed away from Weber State big men and allowed some easy buckets.
"No one on my team is going to play that kind of defense on my watch," O'Brien said.
That meant another big man would have the oppurtunity to play, and junior forward Felix Caspari took advantage. The seldom-used junior college transfer came in and scored four points, grabbed 11 rebounds and dished out three assists while committing no turnovers in 27 minutes of action.
"I really liked the way Felix played," O'Brien said. "He's a rebounder, and that's why he's here at Idaho State. He came in and did what he needed to do tonight."
Caspari said he wasn't expecting that much playing time, but he enjoyed it.
"Coaches always tell me to be ready," he said. "Everybody on this team gets a chance, and whether it's five minutes or 30 minutes I was going to be ready."
Now in first
With Portland State's 72-65 loss at Montana, Weber State is now alone on top of the conference standings with its 7-1 league mark.
The Wildcats weren't too excited about that fact when hearing the news of the Vikings' loss.
"We're not really worried about anyone else," said senior point guard Kellen McCoy. "We're just worried about what we're trying to do. We're just gonna take it game by game and keep pushing."
Weber State coach Randy Rahe pulled Pocatello High graduate Nick Hansen aside for a little talk before his homecoming game against Idaho State on Thursday at Holt Arena.
"All I told him was, 'Hey, go put a smile on your face. Go have fun. Enjoy it,'" Rahe said.
Hansen got the message.
Following the Wildcats' 76-67 overtime win, the junior left the locker room with his College of Southern Idaho backpack slung over his shoulder and talked as if the game was no big deal.
"It just kind of had the feel of every other game," Hansen said. "You have to have that mentality coming into the game and just live in the moment."
Hansen played 27 minutes in his return to the Gate City, scoring six points on 2-of-4 shooting from behind the 3-point line.
Though he did make a point of giving the pregame talk, Rahe wasn't too worried about Hansen.
"Sometimes kids come home, they have their family, and they get too tense and they try too hard," Rahe said. "I wasn't too worried about it because Nick is such a mature kid. I knew he'd handle it. He played really good tonight."
Rather than talk about beating his hometown team, though, Hansen was more pleased that he had another chance to play against Century High graduate Matt Stucki, who was a senior when Hansen was a sophomore at Poky.
"What a player. He had a great night, and I'm just proud of Matt," Hansen said. "He's a good friend of mine."
Stucki returned the compliment to his former cross-town rival turned Big Sky foe.
"He hit some big shots for them," Stucki said, "and he's a good get for them from Pocatello."
Busma sits, Caspari excels
Idaho State starting center Deividas Busma started against Weber State, but only stayed in for three minutes.
That came as quite the surprise condisering the junior didn't injure himself or get in foul trouble.
Idaho State coach Joe O'Brien simply disliked Busma's early defensive effort so much that he benched him for the remainder of the game. During his three minutes, Busma backed away from Weber State big men and allowed some easy buckets.
"No one on my team is going to play that kind of defense on my watch," O'Brien said.
That meant another big man would have the oppurtunity to play, and junior forward Felix Caspari took advantage. The seldom-used junior college transfer came in and scored four points, grabbed 11 rebounds and dished out three assists while committing no turnovers in 27 minutes of action.
"I really liked the way Felix played," O'Brien said. "He's a rebounder, and that's why he's here at Idaho State. He came in and did what he needed to do tonight."
Caspari said he wasn't expecting that much playing time, but he enjoyed it.
"Coaches always tell me to be ready," he said. "Everybody on this team gets a chance, and whether it's five minutes or 30 minutes I was going to be ready."
Now in first
With Portland State's 72-65 loss at Montana, Weber State is now alone on top of the conference standings with its 7-1 league mark.
The Wildcats weren't too excited about that fact when hearing the news of the Vikings' loss.
"We're not really worried about anyone else," said senior point guard Kellen McCoy. "We're just worried about what we're trying to do. We're just gonna take it game by game and keep pushing."