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martymoose

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I don't think that the band needed to even show up tonight. They should have just put the Benny Hill theme on loop for the duration of the game. I've not seen that many missed layups since playing fifth grade basketball.

Bad night all around. The officials were extra terrible tonight. I believe I saw Prosser get the ball on the post, dribble a couple of times, pick the ball up, dribble a couple times, then shoot and score. There was also an extremely obvious over and back on us that Helen Keller would have blown her whistle on.

Oh and by the way, what is the deal with Geving's weird substitutions with like 30 seconds to go and us down 10? I'm not saying that you should just give up, but have you really found some statistical advantage for us where you need to get Foster in there for Harthun, then get Harthun in there for Foster and repeat like three times?
 
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martymoose said:
I don't think that the band needed to even show up tonight. They should have just put the Benny Hill theme on loop for the duration of the game. I've not seen that many missed layups since playing fifth grade basketball.

Bad night all around. The officials were extra terrible tonight. I believe I saw Prosser get the ball on the post, dribble a couple of times, pick the ball up, dribble a couple times, then shoot and score. There was also an extremely obvious over and back on us that Helen Keller would have blown her whistle on.

Oh and by the way, what is the deal with Geving's weird substitutions with like 30 seconds to go and us down 10? I'm not saying that you should just give up, but have you really found some statistical advantage for us where you need to get Foster in there for Harthun, then get Harthun in there for Foster and repeat like three times?

I've had it with Geving. He is in his 4th year and this should be the money year. Yet he is pulling off crap like these bizarre subs late in the game. For all the apologists who said he had to pick up Bone's APR mess, I say this. He was Bone's top assistant. He doesn't get a pass on the APR mess. He gets some credit for getting the APR back on track but After four years and he is producing crap teams like this, I say fire his ass.
 
VikThunderous said:
martymoose said:
I don't think that the band needed to even show up tonight. They should have just put the Benny Hill theme on loop for the duration of the game. I've not seen that many missed layups since playing fifth grade basketball.

Bad night all around. The officials were extra terrible tonight. I believe I saw Prosser get the ball on the post, dribble a couple of times, pick the ball up, dribble a couple times, then shoot and score. There was also an extremely obvious over and back on us that Helen Keller would have blown her whistle on.

Oh and by the way, what is the deal with Geving's weird substitutions with like 30 seconds to go and us down 10? I'm not saying that you should just give up, but have you really found some statistical advantage for us where you need to get Foster in there for Harthun, then get Harthun in there for Foster and repeat like three times?

I've had it with Geving. He is in his 4th year and this should be the money year. Yet he is pulling off crap like these bizarre subs late in the game. For all the apologists who said he had to pick up Bone's APR mess, I say this. He was Bone's top assistant. He doesn't get a pass on the APR mess. He gets some credit for getting the APR back on track but After four years and he is producing crap teams like this, I say fire his ass.

I agree. After coming back from the game against UNC tonight, I think that the Geving era is a failure.

We looked dreadful at both ends of the court tonight in the last nine to ten minutes.

At this point, if Geving is here next year, writing out that check for season tickets may not happen...
 
I've had it with Geving. He is in his 4th year and this should be the money year. Yet he is pulling off crap like these bizarre subs late in the game. For all the apologists who said he had to pick up Bone's APR mess, I say this. He was Bone's top assistant. He doesn't get a pass on the APR mess. He gets some credit for getting the APR back on track but After four years and he is producing crap teams like this, I say fire his ass.
Very well stated.

Again, no more Sobotkas, no more lemmings, ... er, Gevings. I see Geving going down in Viking history as Joel Sobotka II, His credibility (at this level anyway) is dead, dead, dead. I think we need to end this practice of just handing the job of head coach over to an assistant. The unkept promise is the continuation of a winning system. It doesn't seem to work in basketball the way it can at places like Boise State in football. It failed with Ritchie McKay to Joel Sobotka and has failed again with Ken Bone to Tyler Gving.

I would deem this a confirmatory learning experience. Let us realize the folly of committing such kind of hiring decision and may we never do it again! From now on, nation-wide searches are the order of the day. We need to become expert at scanning the field and determining best hires all the time. Because if we hire wisely, our hires will eventually be hired away from us. So we will need to do it again and again as we grow the program up to higher and higher status. So let us begin this policy now.
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Geving is a good recruiter and assistant head coach and can do well by being true to his identity. Maybe he can reprime the develpmental pump by becoming a head coach at a high school like Joel Sobotka did.

To reiterate, our hiring policy at Portland State University should always be to hire the next great up-and-coming basketball coach who fits here best. No-brainer hiring decisions seem to result in no-winning basketball seasons. An investment of this kind will pay off dividends over years to come. Each year should prepare for the eventuality of our great up-and-coming coach being hired up and away. We need to shore up own status simultaneously by working on becoming the next SDSU or UNLV, an upward saw-tooth pattern of development.
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