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Video of UC Dungpile Students Getting Psyched Up

Actually this was something we should all be on the same side. This was police brutality and I hope some heads roll at Davis over this. I hope Sac State administrators have cooler heads than this. I may be a 35 year UC employee but I'm embarrassed by our adminstration and campus police.
 
My question is, was there order to disperse the tent city on campus? If there was, then the students were in the wrong for not dispersing. It's one thing to protest, but its a whole other thing to just set up camp and not budge.
 
The video doesn't show the whole story and everyone knows that. If a law enforcement officer gives you an order, you should probably obey it.

Maybe they should have used the high powered hoses and given those hippies the bath they needed.
 
its legal to protest peacefully, the only reason the police would ask you to leave is if a law is being broken, the police asked the protester to leave multiple times and they didnt. It might be a good idea to listen to what the police say next time.
 
GoAgs72 said:
Actually this was something we should all be on the same side. This was police brutality and I hope some heads roll at Davis over this. I hope Sac State administrators have cooler heads than this. I may be a 35 year UC employee but I'm embarrassed by our adminstration and campus police.

I was hoping for a taser! The priviledged POS 'students' need to get a grip and when told to disperse, disperse. Maybe they don't know what disperse means?

Police had every right to use any means in their aresenal to get these chumps to move.

haha, maybe these police graduated from the biggest state school CJ program in the country. They were Sac State grads hopefully.
 
GoAgs72 said:
Actually this was something we should all be on the same side. This was police brutality and I hope some heads roll at Davis over this. I hope Sac State administrators have cooler heads than this. I may be a 35 year UC employee but I'm embarrassed by our adminstration and campus police.

Ags72, apparently, not everyone on this board is on the same side as you. I, for one, am. I am so amazed that people think this type of response from the police is ok. While I realize that these peaceful protestors were breaking a law, this use of force was not appropriate. There was no violent actions towards the police.
 
Further reports indicated that the Students were sitting around police cars to intentionally block access to officers trying to place arrested individuals in their vehicles.

They had several warnings to move and they did not heed them. They got what they deserved. 3/4 of the protested were not UC Davis students, just a traveling band of hippies who go from protest to protest.
 
Kadeezy said:
Further reports indicated that the Students were sitting around police cars to intentionally block access to officers trying to place arrested individuals in their vehicles.

They had several warnings to move and they did not heed them. They got what they deserved. 3/4 of the protested were not UC Davis students, just a traveling band of hippies who go from protest to protest.


Got what they deserved? That is a pretty sad statement. I am guessing the young lady in Seattle who told the police she was pregnant and trying to leave the area and was than beaten on her stomach and just lost her baby got what she deserved also. I am still waiting to hear about all of the violence that was precipatated upon the the police that caused such a barbaric reaction. Standing around their cars? Come on. You have got to better than that.
 
Anytime anyone obstructs the police from doing their job, they will be dealt with accordingly. You mean to tell me that you expected the police to just sit there surrounded by the protesters and do nothing? The protesters should consider themselves lucky they didn’t catch a baton to the face.

Personally I don’t care about these protests or the people taking part in them. You see the interviews with them and they have no idea what they are there for and no idea what the goal of their protests are. IMO, it sounds like a socialist movement to try and get free shit from the people who have stuff (yes, that includes the regular folks like me who have be fortunate enough to hold a job through these tough times). They can all go kick rocks for all I care.

Here is a great Daily Show clip pointing out the hypocrisy of the Occupy movement:
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-november-16-2011/occupy-wall-street-divided

I especially love the guy at the 4:15 mark of the clip. What a fucktard. :rofl:
 
SDHornet said:
Anytime anyone obstructs the police from doing their job, they will be dealt with accordingly. You mean to tell me that you expected the police to just sit there surrounded by the protesters and do nothing? The protesters should consider themselves lucky they didn’t catch a baton to the face.

Personally I don’t care about these protests or the people taking part in them. You see the interviews with them and they have no idea what they are there for and no idea what the goal of their protests are. IMO, it sounds like a socialist movement to try and get free isht from the people who have stuff (yes, that includes the regular folks like me who have be fortunate enough to hold a job through these tough times). They can all go kick rocks for all I care.

Here is a great Daily Show clip pointing out the hypocrisy of the Occupy movement:
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-november-16-2011/occupy-wall-street-divided

I especially love the guy at the 4:15 mark of the clip. What a fucktard. :rofl:


Heck, why didn't they just start shooting them each in the foot. It would have caused considerably less harm to the individual than spraying a military grade pepper spray in the face of dozens of people. I guarantee once the first person was shot in the foot, the rest would have scattered.

By the way, the word socialist is so overused by the Right. I would argue that a nation in which we continuously prop up giant corporations with taxpayer money is more socialist that asking said corporations to do a little more to help keep Americans employeed. Who knows, maybe I am just a socialist f_cktard also :).
 
There is a big difference between protesting and obstructing justice. If they are merely demonstrating for perceived civil injustice then the police were out of line. But if they were obstructing the police from upholding their duty, then the police had the obligation to remove them. I’m sure the pepper spray was horrible but was it worse than the physical struggle that would have ensued if it wasn’t used? Should the police have beaten them or just given up because someone was blocking them?

Cecesdada, you’ve given your opinion that the officers were out of line so now please give me your opinion on what they should have done?
 
He already told you his preference. He thinks the cops should've shot someone in the foot with a firearm, way safer and less violent. :rofl:
 
cecesdada said:
SDHornet said:
Anytime anyone obstructs the police from doing their job, they will be dealt with accordingly. You mean to tell me that you expected the police to just sit there surrounded by the protesters and do nothing? The protesters should consider themselves lucky they didn’t catch a baton to the face.

Personally I don’t care about these protests or the people taking part in them. You see the interviews with them and they have no idea what they are there for and no idea what the goal of their protests are. IMO, it sounds like a socialist movement to try and get free isht from the people who have stuff (yes, that includes the regular folks like me who have be fortunate enough to hold a job through these tough times). They can all go kick rocks for all I care.

Here is a great Daily Show clip pointing out the hypocrisy of the Occupy movement:
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-november-16-2011/occupy-wall-street-divided

I especially love the guy at the 4:15 mark of the clip. What a fucktard. :rofl:


Heck, why didn't they just start shooting them each in the foot. It would have caused considerably less harm to the individual than spraying a military grade pepper spray in the face of dozens of people. I guarantee once the first person was shot in the foot, the rest would have scattered.

By the way, the word socialist is so overused by the Right. I would argue that a nation in which we continuously prop up giant corporations with taxpayer money is more socialist that asking said corporations to do a little more to help keep Americans employeed. Who knows, maybe I am just a socialist f_cktard also :).
The word “socialist” maybe overused but it is exactly what these protest are advocating. At least I think it is. I’m not sure that anyone really knows what the purpose of the protest are but one thing is sure; these people are upset at the hand they were dealt in life, and rather than getting off of their ass to try and make a better life for themselves, they are grabbing signs and taking the streets/college campuses to demand free shit and entitlements. I am from a working class family, busted ass to make a better life for myself and made it happen through hard work, perseverance, and dedication. These protestors can too if they would apply their energy to more constructive efforts instead of just bitching about what they don’t have.

BTW I agree with what you said about the gov propping up some of the corporations with tax money. That’s just an example of the broken lobbyist system. Vote them all out.
 
Kadeezy said:
He already told you his preference. He thinks the cops should've shot someone in the foot with a firearm, way safer and less violent. :rofl:


I think it is pretty obvious that I was joking about that. I was merely commenting on the fact that military grade pepper can have extremely severe effects on a person. I am not a police officer, and believe me, I generally am a huge proponent of law enforcement. I think in this case, the officers who sprayed the pepper spray were in the wrong. How about this novel concept:

If the officers main concern was the encampment that this group of people sitting on the ground was protecting, how about the officers step over the protestors (as the officer did before he so bravely fired pepper spray into their faces), and go dismantle the encampment. At that time, if they began to threaten the officers, I would be completely fine with them using force.
 
SDHornet said:
cecesdada said:
SDHornet said:
The word “socialist” maybe overused but it is exactly what these protest are advocating. At least I think it is. I’m not sure that anyone really knows what the purpose of the protest are but one thing is sure; these people are upset at the hand they were dealt in life, and rather than getting off of their ass to try and make a better life for themselves, they are grabbing signs and taking the streets/college campuses to demand free isht and entitlements. I am from a working class family, busted ass to make a better life for myself and made it happen through hard work, perseverance, and dedication. These protestors can too if they would apply their energy to more constructive efforts instead of just bitching about what they don’t have.

BTW I agree with what you said about the gov propping up some of the corporations with tax money. That’s just an example of the broken lobbyist system. Vote them all out.


I don't hear people wanting free stuff. I think it is narrow minded to assume that is all they are looking for. Of course, the corporate media portrays it that way (which is pretty much all that you see these days). I see a bunch of people who are frustrated with the direction that this Country is going. Jobs are flocking oversees, the income disparity is as great as it has been since the 20's as middle class incomes continue to decline, yet most of the major corporations continue to make huge profits. There is noone fighting for the middle class. I too have worked hard to make a better life for myself and my family, but I realize that not everyone has had the opportunities I have had. I am teaching my girls that you must walk a mile in someone's shoes before judging them. Also, I am teaching them that we are not a moral country if one person is starving, if one person is homeless, and we must all work together as citizens of this great country to help them. If that is socialism, so be it. It is sure a hell of a lot better than what we have now. We need to move back from a Country of ME to a Country of WE

By the way...Go Hornets!
 
cecesdada said:
I don't hear people wanting free stuff. I think it is narrow minded to assume that is all they are looking for. Of course, the corporate media portrays it that way (which is pretty much all that you see these days). I see a bunch of people who are frustrated with the direction that this Country is going. Jobs are flocking oversees, the income disparity is as great as it has been since the 20's as middle class incomes continue to decline, yet most of the major corporations continue to make huge profits. There is noone fighting for the middle class. I too have worked hard to make a better life for myself and my family, but I realize that not everyone has had the opportunities I have had. I am teaching my girls that you must walk a mile in someone's shoes before judging them. Also, I am teaching them that we are not a moral country if one person is starving, if one person is homeless, and we must all work together as citizens of this great country to help them. If that is socialism, so be it. It is sure a hell of a lot better than what we have now. We need to move back from a Country of ME to a Country of WE

By the way...Go Hornets!
I’ve seen interviews (youtube for example) with folks demonstrating because they want handouts. This Occupy thing is just a hodgepodge of protests wrapped up into one big gathering. I’m sure there are anti-war protestors, folks protesting about jobs and the economy, PETA is probably in there somewhere…you get the idea. That’s the main reason why this movement is hard to take serious.

I have nothing against voluntary charity and that is an honorable ideal to be teaching your children. There are many organizations that help people when they need assistance and it’s a great thing to get involved with and support. I do have a problem with taxpayer funded charity (socialism).

Go Hornets! 8-)
 

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