eaglesfootball said:That would be a good way to finish out the season. But even with 7 wins we're probably still out of the playoffs since we won't have any quality wins.
It took a team effort to be 28-0 at half vs Idaho. No defense and less offense. Same thing at Jacksonville, big lead @ half and no offense or defense in the second half. Remember Montana? 14-10 @ half and we only scored 7 in the second half while Montana put up 24. Did the OC and DC change at half time in any of those games. Our coordinators have showed they can put together 2 qtrs, just not two halves yet. Same players, different attitudes.luckyintheorder said:Throw up a poll Ranger.
Is 6-3 in conference enough to make the playoffs? That Idaho loss REALLY hurt. CAA, Southland and OVC actually have several teams, not sold the BSC will get 4 teams in.... A playoff prognosticator will have to do the math for the rest of us.
Honestly, has the OC's mindset changed? If so, I agree with your supposition Ranger. Born a skeptic and still pissed that it's taken this long to see on the field. Going to need more proof. He's had this team playing tentative at best and scared at worst all season IMO.
Was super to see the Eag's exploit the middle and stretch the field consistently. OL had one of their better performances. None of the teams Eastern faces is better than NAU (in general). Expect the defense to play hard, make mistakes and get a few stops with a couple of TO's a game. EB3 has taken care of the ball and some of the WR's seem to be playing up to pre-season expectation. Enjoyed seeing Pierce make a few plays in compliment to Custer's big game. Go Eags!
clawman said:It took a team effort to be 28-0 at half vs Idaho. No defense and less offense. Same thing at Jacksonville, big lead @ half and no offense or defense in the second half. Remember Montana? 14-10 @ half and we only scored 7 in the second half while Montana put up 24. Did the OC and DC change at half time in any of those games. Our coordinators have showed they can put together 2 qtrs, just not two halves yet. Same players, different attitudes.luckyintheorder said:Throw up a poll Ranger.
Is 6-3 in conference enough to make the playoffs? That Idaho loss REALLY hurt. CAA, Southland and OVC actually have several teams, not sold the BSC will get 4 teams in.... A playoff prognosticator will have to do the math for the rest of us.
Honestly, has the OC's mindset changed? If so, I agree with your supposition Ranger. Born a skeptic and still pissed that it's taken this long to see on the field. Going to need more proof. He's had this team playing tentative at best and scared at worst all season IMO.
Was super to see the Eag's exploit the middle and stretch the field consistently. OL had one of their better performances. None of the teams Eastern faces is better than NAU (in general). Expect the defense to play hard, make mistakes and get a few stops with a couple of TO's a game. EB3 has taken care of the ball and some of the WR's seem to be playing up to pre-season expectation. Enjoyed seeing Pierce make a few plays in compliment to Custer's big game. Go Eags!
luckyintheorder said:clawman said:It took a team effort to be 28-0 at half vs Idaho. No defense and less offense. Same thing at Jacksonville, big lead @ half and no offense or defense in the second half. Remember Montana? 14-10 @ half and we only scored 7 in the second half while Montana put up 24. Did the OC and DC change at half time in any of those games. Our coordinators have showed they can put together 2 qtrs, just not two halves yet. Same players, different attitudes.luckyintheorder said:Throw up a poll Ranger.
Is 6-3 in conference enough to make the playoffs? That Idaho loss REALLY hurt. CAA, Southland and OVC actually have several teams, not sold the BSC will get 4 teams in.... A playoff prognosticator will have to do the math for the rest of us.
Honestly, has the OC's mindset changed? If so, I agree with your supposition Ranger. Born a skeptic and still pissed that it's taken this long to see on the field. Going to need more proof. He's had this team playing tentative at best and scared at worst all season IMO.
Was super to see the Eag's exploit the middle and stretch the field consistently. OL had one of their better performances. None of the teams Eastern faces is better than NAU (in general). Expect the defense to play hard, make mistakes and get a few stops with a couple of TO's a game. EB3 has taken care of the ball and some of the WR's seem to be playing up to pre-season expectation. Enjoyed seeing Pierce make a few plays in compliment to Custer's big game. Go Eags!
Still a skeptic. Yes, the coordinators changed in all the instances you named. Playing "not to lose" is more real than you claiming player attitudes may be responsible. Without diving into each moment, coaching, coaching adjustments and the mental part of the game has been consistently sub-par all season. If players have had different "attitudes", it's because of a failure to communicate. Hoping it continues to improve. Lot's of changes this year has not helped. The good news is Best hasn't lost the team. Stop dumping this on players, it's about the supposed adults in the room.
ewueagle2010 said:eaglesfootball said:That would be a good way to finish out the season. But even with 7 wins we're probably still out of the playoffs since we won't have any quality wins.
And only 6 D1 wins, which doesn’t meet the unwritten rule of needing 7 D1 wins to be playoff eligible. Add the fact that it was a 12 game schedule, and it hurts us even more. Playoffs, are truly not possible at this point unless there is some sort of miracle.
It's not your first comment about player attitudes... Would it have been what you meant if you changed it?clawman said:luckyintheorder said:clawman said:It took a team effort to be 28-0 at half vs Idaho. No defense and less offense. Same thing at Jacksonville, big lead @ half and no offense or defense in the second half. Remember Montana? 14-10 @ half and we only scored 7 in the second half while Montana put up 24. Did the OC and DC change at half time in any of those games. Our coordinators have showed they can put together 2 qtrs, just not two halves yet. Same players, different attitudes.luckyintheorder said:Throw up a poll Ranger.
Is 6-3 in conference enough to make the playoffs? That Idaho loss REALLY hurt. CAA, Southland and OVC actually have several teams, not sold the BSC will get 4 teams in.... A playoff prognosticator will have to do the math for the rest of us.
Honestly, has the OC's mindset changed? If so, I agree with your supposition Ranger. Born a skeptic and still pissed that it's taken this long to see on the field. Going to need more proof. He's had this team playing tentative at best and scared at worst all season IMO.
Was super to see the Eag's exploit the middle and stretch the field consistently. OL had one of their better performances. None of the teams Eastern faces is better than NAU (in general). Expect the defense to play hard, make mistakes and get a few stops with a couple of TO's a game. EB3 has taken care of the ball and some of the WR's seem to be playing up to pre-season expectation. Enjoyed seeing Pierce make a few plays in compliment to Custer's big game. Go Eags!
Still a skeptic. Yes, the coordinators changed in all the instances you named. Playing "not to lose" is more real than you claiming player attitudes may be responsible. Without diving into each moment, coaching, coaching adjustments and the mental part of the game has been consistently sub-par all season. If players have had different "attitudes", it's because of a failure to communicate. Hoping it continues to improve. Lot's of changes this year has not helped. The good news is Best hasn't lost the team. Stop dumping this on players, it's about the supposed adults in the room.
I wasn't "dumping" this on players, more scratching my head as to what changes from one half to another. If I had said "same players different results" would you have been so hurt?
Obzerver said:It's funny that last 15+ years I've always had the feeling if we were down we would make a comeback especially in 2nd half and knew in heart of hearts we'd never give up. Sometimes we'd win sometimes lose...mostly won. I lost that feeling this season. I feel like the feeling is back, at least that's what I sensed in the stadium last Sat. Don't know if anything team wise has changed or maybe it's just me wanting it so badly to change. Players/coaches some of both I suspect.
Obzerver said:It's funny that last 15+ years I've always had the feeling if we were down we would make a comeback especially in 2nd half and knew in heart of hearts we'd never give up. Sometimes we'd win sometimes lose...mostly won. I lost that feeling this season. I feel like the feeling is back, at least that's what I sensed in the stadium last Sat. Don't know if anything team wise has changed or maybe it's just me wanting it so badly to change. Players/coaches some of both I suspect.
Obzerver said:Well the team that showed up on Sat. looked like a team from the past. Score alotta points all game long and let them score a lotta points and hiope you score more and don't quit. I'm ok with that. We should win our remaining games cause we will score alotta points, more than the opposition.
*One thing that Best said post game was EB3 was phsically and mentally fit as he's been all season. I'm pretty sure he got dinged up in that JSU game pretty good and coupled with trying to make him be somebody he's not (changed his style to Shoemaker's mold) mentally messed with him. Now healthy and letting him play his style reflects what he's capable of.
**Also noted Ojoh will redshirt
LDopaPDX said:I doubt this was meant as any sort of indication that 7-5 would make us a playoff team. Fact is, two years ago Eastern finished with four losses against a brutal schedule and missed the playoffs. Five losses against an easier schedule would seem like a complete non-starter. It would require an absolute trainwreck of teams in the top 25 losing, and it’s totally out of our control.
Even at 7-5, I’d make the odds about 2%.