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We can win our remaining games

Hope so. It would be nice to finish the year above .500. No one left on the schedule looks all that good. It still reeks of disappointment, but at least it builds some momentum for next season.
 
That would be a good way to finish out the season. But even with 7 wins we're probably still out of the playoffs since we won't have any quality wins.
 
eaglesfootball said:
That would be a good way to finish out the season. But even with 7 wins we're probably still out of the playoffs since we won't have any quality wins.

And only 6 D1 wins, which doesn’t meet the unwritten rule of needing 7 D1 wins to be playoff eligible. Add the fact that it was a 12 game schedule, and it hurts us even more. Playoffs, are truly not possible at this point unless there is some sort of miracle.
 
Throw up a poll Ranger.

Is 6-3 in conference enough to make the playoffs? That Idaho loss REALLY hurt. CAA, Southland and OVC actually have several teams, not sold the BSC will get 4 teams in.... A playoff prognosticator will have to do the math for the rest of us.

Honestly, has the OC's mindset changed? If so, I agree with your supposition Ranger. Born a skeptic and still pissed that it's taken this long to see on the field. Going to need more proof. He's had this team playing tentative at best and scared at worst all season IMO.

Was super to see the Eag's exploit the middle and stretch the field consistently. OL had one of their better performances. None of the teams Eastern faces is better than NAU (in general). Expect the defense to play hard, make mistakes and get a few stops with a couple of TO's a game. EB3 has taken care of the ball and some of the WR's seem to be playing up to pre-season expectation. Enjoyed seeing Pierce make a few plays in compliment to Custer's big game. Go Eags!
 
I doubt this was meant as any sort of indication that 7-5 would make us a playoff team. Fact is, two years ago Eastern finished with four losses against a brutal schedule and missed the playoffs. Five losses against an easier schedule would seem like a complete non-starter. It would require an absolute trainwreck of teams in the top 25 losing, and it’s totally out of our control.

Even at 7-5, I’d make the odds about 2%.
 
luckyintheorder said:
Throw up a poll Ranger.

Is 6-3 in conference enough to make the playoffs? That Idaho loss REALLY hurt. CAA, Southland and OVC actually have several teams, not sold the BSC will get 4 teams in.... A playoff prognosticator will have to do the math for the rest of us.

Honestly, has the OC's mindset changed? If so, I agree with your supposition Ranger. Born a skeptic and still pissed that it's taken this long to see on the field. Going to need more proof. He's had this team playing tentative at best and scared at worst all season IMO.

Was super to see the Eag's exploit the middle and stretch the field consistently. OL had one of their better performances. None of the teams Eastern faces is better than NAU (in general). Expect the defense to play hard, make mistakes and get a few stops with a couple of TO's a game. EB3 has taken care of the ball and some of the WR's seem to be playing up to pre-season expectation. Enjoyed seeing Pierce make a few plays in compliment to Custer's big game. Go Eags!
It took a team effort to be 28-0 at half vs Idaho. No defense and less offense. Same thing at Jacksonville, big lead @ half and no offense or defense in the second half. Remember Montana? 14-10 @ half and we only scored 7 in the second half while Montana put up 24. Did the OC and DC change at half time in any of those games. Our coordinators have showed they can put together 2 qtrs, just not two halves yet. Same players, different attitudes.
 
clawman said:
luckyintheorder said:
Throw up a poll Ranger.

Is 6-3 in conference enough to make the playoffs? That Idaho loss REALLY hurt. CAA, Southland and OVC actually have several teams, not sold the BSC will get 4 teams in.... A playoff prognosticator will have to do the math for the rest of us.

Honestly, has the OC's mindset changed? If so, I agree with your supposition Ranger. Born a skeptic and still pissed that it's taken this long to see on the field. Going to need more proof. He's had this team playing tentative at best and scared at worst all season IMO.

Was super to see the Eag's exploit the middle and stretch the field consistently. OL had one of their better performances. None of the teams Eastern faces is better than NAU (in general). Expect the defense to play hard, make mistakes and get a few stops with a couple of TO's a game. EB3 has taken care of the ball and some of the WR's seem to be playing up to pre-season expectation. Enjoyed seeing Pierce make a few plays in compliment to Custer's big game. Go Eags!
It took a team effort to be 28-0 at half vs Idaho. No defense and less offense. Same thing at Jacksonville, big lead @ half and no offense or defense in the second half. Remember Montana? 14-10 @ half and we only scored 7 in the second half while Montana put up 24. Did the OC and DC change at half time in any of those games. Our coordinators have showed they can put together 2 qtrs, just not two halves yet. Same players, different attitudes.

Still a skeptic. Yes, the coordinators changed in all the instances you named. Playing "not to lose" is more real than you claiming player attitudes may be responsible. Without diving into each moment, coaching, coaching adjustments and the mental part of the game has been consistently sub-par all season. If players have had different "attitudes", it's because of a failure to communicate. Hoping it continues to improve. Lot's of changes this year has not helped. The good news is Best hasn't lost the team. Stop dumping this on players, it's about the supposed adults in the room.
 
I think it's tough to put too much blame on the coordinators. I really don't see a lot of difference with how our offense looks this year versus last year. The plays are very similar, the playcalling is very similar. Darn near everything we do is based on some kind of read, and when the reads don't get made correctly, we're always going to struggle. A lot goes onto the QB's shoulders in our offense, and frankly, Eric's decision making has been really suspect at times this season. You'll notice we play well offensively at points in nearly every game, but then the momentum leaves us and we can't accomplish anything. We get timid, the QB has struggled to make his right upfield reads for an entire game.

Defensively, our ups and downs seem more based on just being mediocre talent-wise than any type of performance issue. Our DL, which I figured was going to be a strength, is just OK (and as Serena tells us, just Ok is not OK). At times, like against Idaho, they were brutally bad. Linebackers have been beat up, although I'd make Sendelbach my team MVP. We all knew secondary was going to be the issue, and they have certainly had their challenges this year.
 
Well the team that showed up on Sat. looked like a team from the past. Score alotta points all game long and let them score a lotta points and hiope you score more and don't quit. I'm ok with that. We should win our remaining games cause we will score alotta points, more than the opposition.
*One thing that Best said post game was EB3 was phsically and mentally fit as he's been all season. I'm pretty sure he got dinged up in that JSU game pretty good and coupled with trying to make him be somebody he's not (changed his style to Shoemaker's mold) mentally messed with him. Now healthy and letting him play his style reflects what he's capable of.
**Also noted Ojoh will redshirt
 
luckyintheorder said:
clawman said:
luckyintheorder said:
Throw up a poll Ranger.

Is 6-3 in conference enough to make the playoffs? That Idaho loss REALLY hurt. CAA, Southland and OVC actually have several teams, not sold the BSC will get 4 teams in.... A playoff prognosticator will have to do the math for the rest of us.

Honestly, has the OC's mindset changed? If so, I agree with your supposition Ranger. Born a skeptic and still pissed that it's taken this long to see on the field. Going to need more proof. He's had this team playing tentative at best and scared at worst all season IMO.

Was super to see the Eag's exploit the middle and stretch the field consistently. OL had one of their better performances. None of the teams Eastern faces is better than NAU (in general). Expect the defense to play hard, make mistakes and get a few stops with a couple of TO's a game. EB3 has taken care of the ball and some of the WR's seem to be playing up to pre-season expectation. Enjoyed seeing Pierce make a few plays in compliment to Custer's big game. Go Eags!
It took a team effort to be 28-0 at half vs Idaho. No defense and less offense. Same thing at Jacksonville, big lead @ half and no offense or defense in the second half. Remember Montana? 14-10 @ half and we only scored 7 in the second half while Montana put up 24. Did the OC and DC change at half time in any of those games. Our coordinators have showed they can put together 2 qtrs, just not two halves yet. Same players, different attitudes.

Still a skeptic. Yes, the coordinators changed in all the instances you named. Playing "not to lose" is more real than you claiming player attitudes may be responsible. Without diving into each moment, coaching, coaching adjustments and the mental part of the game has been consistently sub-par all season. If players have had different "attitudes", it's because of a failure to communicate. Hoping it continues to improve. Lot's of changes this year has not helped. The good news is Best hasn't lost the team. Stop dumping this on players, it's about the supposed adults in the room.

I wasn't "dumping" this on players, more scratching my head as to what changes from one half to another. If I had said "same players different results" would you have been so hurt?
 
It's funny that last 15+ years I've always had the feeling if we were down we would make a comeback especially in 2nd half and knew in heart of hearts we'd never give up. Sometimes we'd win sometimes lose...mostly won. I lost that feeling this season. I feel like the feeling is back, at least that's what I sensed in the stadium last Sat. Don't know if anything team wise has changed or maybe it's just me wanting it so badly to change. Players/coaches some of both I suspect.
 
ewueagle2010 said:
eaglesfootball said:
That would be a good way to finish out the season. But even with 7 wins we're probably still out of the playoffs since we won't have any quality wins.

And only 6 D1 wins, which doesn’t meet the unwritten rule of needing 7 D1 wins to be playoff eligible. Add the fact that it was a 12 game schedule, and it hurts us even more. Playoffs, are truly not possible at this point unless there is some sort of miracle.

ewueagle, unforunately this team is not playoff capable, just the facts. Hope Best has some winter plans for recruitment because from everything shown this year there are NO qualified backups at the skill positions on this team today.
 
clawman said:
luckyintheorder said:
clawman said:
luckyintheorder said:
Throw up a poll Ranger.

Is 6-3 in conference enough to make the playoffs? That Idaho loss REALLY hurt. CAA, Southland and OVC actually have several teams, not sold the BSC will get 4 teams in.... A playoff prognosticator will have to do the math for the rest of us.

Honestly, has the OC's mindset changed? If so, I agree with your supposition Ranger. Born a skeptic and still pissed that it's taken this long to see on the field. Going to need more proof. He's had this team playing tentative at best and scared at worst all season IMO.

Was super to see the Eag's exploit the middle and stretch the field consistently. OL had one of their better performances. None of the teams Eastern faces is better than NAU (in general). Expect the defense to play hard, make mistakes and get a few stops with a couple of TO's a game. EB3 has taken care of the ball and some of the WR's seem to be playing up to pre-season expectation. Enjoyed seeing Pierce make a few plays in compliment to Custer's big game. Go Eags!
It took a team effort to be 28-0 at half vs Idaho. No defense and less offense. Same thing at Jacksonville, big lead @ half and no offense or defense in the second half. Remember Montana? 14-10 @ half and we only scored 7 in the second half while Montana put up 24. Did the OC and DC change at half time in any of those games. Our coordinators have showed they can put together 2 qtrs, just not two halves yet. Same players, different attitudes.

Still a skeptic. Yes, the coordinators changed in all the instances you named. Playing "not to lose" is more real than you claiming player attitudes may be responsible. Without diving into each moment, coaching, coaching adjustments and the mental part of the game has been consistently sub-par all season. If players have had different "attitudes", it's because of a failure to communicate. Hoping it continues to improve. Lot's of changes this year has not helped. The good news is Best hasn't lost the team. Stop dumping this on players, it's about the supposed adults in the room.

I wasn't "dumping" this on players, more scratching my head as to what changes from one half to another. If I had said "same players different results" would you have been so hurt?
It's not your first comment about player attitudes... Would it have been what you meant if you changed it?

However, we have all scratched our heads on the inconsistency half to half. Good news is Best still has the team playing hard and if the NAU game is any indication, things are shaping up for the last three games. As always, hope everyone stays healthy, plays well and finishes strong. Dopa and others are probably right about the playoff's. No joy. Just far too many changes to overcome this season, I marvel at how NDSU has absorbed two HC changes during their run and still puts a dominant team on the field. A lot of elements surely.
 
Obzerver said:
It's funny that last 15+ years I've always had the feeling if we were down we would make a comeback especially in 2nd half and knew in heart of hearts we'd never give up. Sometimes we'd win sometimes lose...mostly won. I lost that feeling this season. I feel like the feeling is back, at least that's what I sensed in the stadium last Sat. Don't know if anything team wise has changed or maybe it's just me wanting it so badly to change. Players/coaches some of both I suspect.

BOOM!!!!!!
 
Obzerver said:
It's funny that last 15+ years I've always had the feeling if we were down we would make a comeback especially in 2nd half and knew in heart of hearts we'd never give up. Sometimes we'd win sometimes lose...mostly won. I lost that feeling this season. I feel like the feeling is back, at least that's what I sensed in the stadium last Sat. Don't know if anything team wise has changed or maybe it's just me wanting it so badly to change. Players/coaches some of both I suspect.

Joke at halftime was good news bad news... good news we are ahead @ half, bad news we are ahead @ half :lol:
 
Obzerver said:
Well the team that showed up on Sat. looked like a team from the past. Score alotta points all game long and let them score a lotta points and hiope you score more and don't quit. I'm ok with that. We should win our remaining games cause we will score alotta points, more than the opposition.
*One thing that Best said post game was EB3 was phsically and mentally fit as he's been all season. I'm pretty sure he got dinged up in that JSU game pretty good and coupled with trying to make him be somebody he's not (changed his style to Shoemaker's mold) mentally messed with him. Now healthy and letting him play his style reflects what he's capable of.
**Also noted Ojoh will redshirt

We are about 10x better offensively when Barriere makes the proper reads and has no fear about taking the ball upfield. There was a play on Saturday- I think it was a fourth down- and Barriere read the end pinching inside and faked the handoff and wheeled to his left and went for a 20 yard TD. It was perfect. The problem is there have been a lot of times this season when he blew the read and we got stuffed. When you line up in shotgun nearly every play (or pistol), you're dead in the water if you mess up that read.

Tangent time--- I saw Seth Harrison was named Big Sky Special Teams Player of the Week. Good for him; he's done well with his kicking. But whatever happened to Andre Slyter? I thought coming into the year he was going to be handling the kicks. Did Harrison just beat him out? And can either of those guys learn to punt?
 
Don't give up on this team or the coaches. They will be 7-5 and hopefully in the top 25. We will be back next season and there is always the old saying "never give up and never give in". We have been spoiled for the past decade and we have done it with smoke and mirrors and great coaching. Let's all support our EAGS!!!! :thumb:
 
LDopaPDX said:
I doubt this was meant as any sort of indication that 7-5 would make us a playoff team. Fact is, two years ago Eastern finished with four losses against a brutal schedule and missed the playoffs. Five losses against an easier schedule would seem like a complete non-starter. It would require an absolute trainwreck of teams in the top 25 losing, and it’s totally out of our control.

Even at 7-5, I’d make the odds about 2%.

Correct. The Montana loss put the playoffs out of reach this season. But finishing with 7 wins would put a positive spin on what has been a really disappointing season and provide great momentum going into the off season.
 
It’s possible that EWU can make the playoffs at 7-5 but without a quality win it would be tough...7-5 teams have received at large bids in 12 game seasons but our lack of big wins would hurt our case...
 

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