Weber Agrees to Home and Home with McNeese

[kalm]

Damn, this would have been nice to have.

OGDEN -- Weber State's 2012 schedule for new football coach John L. Smith is now set; his coaching staff, not yet.

The Wildcats athletic department has agreed to a home-and-home series with McNeese State, based in Lake Charles, La. Weber State will open the 2012 season with games at Fresno State and BYU before the Cowboys visit Ogden on Sept. 15, 2012, in Smith's first home game since becoming the ninth coach in Weber State history.

The Wildcats will return the game in Louisiana in 2013.
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[marceagfan5]

Wow...That is sweet for Weber, wish that could have been Eastern. Montana has now scheduled home and homes with App. State and Liberty, MSU has drake and Stephen F. Austin, Weber has Mcneese...damn we have nothing except the back end of Cal Poly home and home.

Anyone know after 2012's season if we have any non-conf home and homes scheduled? With the whole conference change, I would like to see us try to schedule some teams outside of the conference. I know we can schedule conference teams as non-conf games if we are not scheduled to play them, but I'd like to see some other non-conference teams come to Cheney.

How did we not ask S. Dakota for a return game, did they pay us that much?

 

[LDopaPDX]

I don't think we can schedule non-conference games with conference opponents... the NCAA is going to make an official ruling on that. I know Oregon had to change their schedules for the upcoming years because they had Utah scheduled several times as a non-conference opponent and were advised the NCAA would likely rule these as non-counter games. I'd strongly suspect that's what direction this will go...

 

[kalm]

I don't think we can schedule non-conference games with conference opponents... the NCAA is going to make an official ruling on that. I know Oregon had to change their schedules for the upcoming years because they had Utah scheduled several times as a non-conference opponent and were advised the NCAA would likely rule these as non-counter games. I'd strongly suspect that's what direction this will go...

Wow. If that's the case we better get on the ball with this or plan on multiple drop down and body bag games. hno:

 

[LDopaPDX]

I think you're overestimating the difficulty of scheduling out of conference games. Remember, a decade ago, all of these "new" Big Sky members (North Dakota, Cal Poly, UC Davis, Southern Utah) were D-II. And back then, we were able to fill our schedule with the same number of conference opponents and really NEVER played bodybaggers. We used to play one end of a home-home with a Southland team every year, but haven't played a Southland team in a non-con game since 2004 (when we played Nicholls State on the road... not sure what ever happened to the back-end of that one, because it was a home-home and we never got a return visit. I assume they bought it out). We played Stephen F. Austin- twice, Texas State, and NE Louisiana (now UL-Monroe) in home-homes during the 90s. I also remember doing a deal with the MVC (at the time the Gateway Conference) where we played Northern Iowa in Cedar Falls one season and got a return date from Illinois State.

Point is, it isn't THAT HARD to schedule out-of-conference opponents. We just have changed what we're doing and in turn have made it much harder on ourselves. We need to get back to some of the older scheduling methods... We used to do whatever we could to ensure a full home slate and would get creative in finding D-IIs to do it- you could argue that schedulng down doesn't help much, but history also shows it certainly has never hurt us. I remember bringing in Augustana of South Dakota and Angelo State of Texas among more random teams. Not sure why it seems the only D-II we have contact with anymore is Central Washington.

 

[EdubAlum]

last time we went down there we kicked the crap out of them, maybe that is fresh on their mind?

 

[marceagfan5]

If Dopa is Correct, and I am think he is, the committee will most likely change the rule of playing conference teams in non-conference games, it just doesn't make sense. We had Cal Poly scheduled before the conference change so that will stay a non-conf game, but I think moving forward past the 2012 season we won't be allowed to schedule teams in conference for non-conf games, but maybe they will make an exception due to lack of teams (FCS) out west.

We do need to look beyond the far west to schedule teams. We can find D2's in western oregon and central washington, I am more concerned with finding another FCS non-conf game or 2 if we don't schedule an FBS or D2 in one season. Look at the big sky teams next year that have non-conf games with other opponents.

Griz - App St, Liberty
MSU- Drake, Stephen F Austin
Weber - Mcneese
North Dakota - Central Arkansas
UC Davis - Texas San Antonio (transitioning to FBS)
Sourthern Utah - Texas San Antonio (transitioning to FBS)
The rest of the teams haven't fully announced their schedules or I just wasn't able to find them (didn't look too hard).

Here is a list of teams that are west of the Mississippi that I think we could at least look into home and homes:

USD
SDSU
NDSU
San Diego
UNI
MIssouri State
SEMO
Lamar
McNeese
SHSU
SELA
SFA
Northwestern State
Prairie View
Texas Southern

Maybe our AD is one step ahead of us and already has some of these things worked out after next year and we will have some nice surprises on the schedule...

 

[BLACKFALKIN1]

I NEVER understood the point of a home-home. EVERYONE NEEDS TO PLAY NON CONF GAMES. So why cant EWU simply play diff teams every year! Im sure not excited about EWU playing Cal Poly AGAIN. Oh and guess what? Cal Poly is now in the Sky! So now EWU is gonna play a conf mate as a non conf game.

Issue #1 - The teams in the Great West teams have always un officially been in the Sky bc they're on the West coast. So fans only get to see conf games over & over.

Issue #2 - at the football championship subdivision level, nobody wants to pay for travel.

So if there are two goals : win Natl championships & sell out stadiums. Both can be achieved by scheduling:

One weak @BCS-Money game to start the season. (You get paid AND some exposure for the school)
One weak home FCS/DII home game
One weak home or awayFCS game (Pref. FCS)

Chances are you WONT beat the FBS team, it guaranteed you wont get credit for the DII game but it does help team moral to COMPLETELY DECIMATE A TEAM, AS THE FIRST HOME GAME. Not to mention that when the students arrive.

Evidence=Montana's 2004 schedule

Sat, Sept 4 vs Maine W
Sat, Sept 11 vs Hofstra W
Sat, Sept 18 @ Sam Houston State L
Sat, Sept 25 vs Northern Colorado W
Sat, Oct 2 @ Weber State W
Sat, Oct 9 vs Idaho State W
Sat, Oct 16 @ Eastern Washington W
Sat, Oct 30 @ Portland State L
Sat, Nov 6 vs Northern Arizona W
Sat, Nov 13 Sacramento State W
Sat, Nov 20 vs Montana State W
Sat, Nov 27 vs Northwestern State W
Sat, Dec 4 vs New Hampshire W
Sat, Dec 11 vs Sam Houston State W
IAA Championship VS JMU L

 

[grizzaholic]

If Dopa is Correct, and I am think he is, the committee will most likely change the rule of playing conference teams in non-conference games, it just doesn't make sense. We had Cal Poly scheduled before the conference change so that will stay a non-conf game, but I think moving forward past the 2012 season we won't be allowed to schedule teams in conference for non-conf games, but maybe they will make an exception due to lack of teams (FCS) out west.

We do need to look beyond the far west to schedule teams. We can find D2's in western oregon and central washington, I am more concerned with finding another FCS non-conf game or 2 if we don't schedule an FBS or D2 in one season. Look at the big sky teams next year that have non-conf games with other opponents.

Griz - App St, Liberty
MSU- Drake, Stephen F Austin
Weber - Mcneese
North Dakota - Central Arkansas
UC Davis - Texas San Antonio (transitioning to FBS)
Sourthern Utah - Texas San Antonio (transitioning to FBS)
The rest of the teams haven't fully announced their schedules or I just wasn't able to find them (didn't look too hard).

Montana also has a home and home with McNeese St. It was put together with App St.

 

[grizzaholic]

Chances are you WONT beat the FBS team, it guaranteed you wont get credit for the DII game but it does help team moral to COMPLETELY DECIMATE A TEAM, AS THE FIRST HOME GAME. Not to mention that when the students arrive.

Evidence=Montana's 2004 schedule

Sat, Sept 4 vs Maine W
Sat, Sept 11 vs Hofstra W
Sat, Sept 18 @ Sam Houston State L
Sat, Sept 25 vs Northern Colorado W
Sat, Oct 2 @ Weber State W
Sat, Oct 9 vs Idaho State W
Sat, Oct 16 @ Eastern Washington W
Sat, Oct 30 @ Portland State L
Sat, Nov 6 vs Northern Arizona W
Sat, Nov 13 Sacramento State W
Sat, Nov 20 vs Montana State W
Sat, Nov 27 vs Northwestern State W
Sat, Dec 4 vs New Hampshire W
Sat, Dec 11 vs Sam Houston State W
IAA Championship VS JMU L

I see your point, but help me out on the bold statement.

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[Eagle1990]

No need to yell! Lol. FCS scheduling sucks. Very difficult. It is what it is. Chaves does the best job he can given the constraints I am sure. I've met him once and he seems reasonable.

 

[grizzaholic]

No need to yell! Lol. FCS scheduling sucks. Very difficult. It is what it is. Chaves does the best job he can given the constraints I am sure. I've met him once and he seems reasonable.

Wasn't. BF misses things.

 

[BLACKFALKIN1]

No need to yell! Lol. FCS scheduling sucks. Very difficult. It is what it is. Chaves does the best job he can given the constraints I am sure. I've met him once and he seems reasonable.

Wasn't. BF misses things.

Never said Montana destroyed Maine, Im saying, bring in a fcs opponent like San Diego, Tennessee Tech, Indiana State, Eastern Illinois... not just SUU, CPSLO, & UCD YOU FXCKING CLOWN.

Aside from the playoffs, when does EWU bring in non GWC/BSC FCS teams?

Checkmate B:tch!

 

[kalm]

No need to yell! Lol. FCS scheduling sucks. Very difficult. It is what it is. Chaves does the best job he can given the constraints I am sure. I've met him once and he seems reasonable.

Wasn't. BF misses things.

Never said Montana destroyed Maine, Im saying, bring in a fcs opponent like San Diego, Tennessee Tech, Indiana State, Eastern Illinois... not just SUU, CPSLO, & UCD YOU FXCKING CLOWN.

Aside from the playoffs, when does EWU bring in non GWC/BSC FCS teams?

Checkmate B:tch!

You're being kind of mean here. hno: This is a polite message board filled with tender ears. :mrgreen:

 

[BLACKFALKIN1]

No need to yell! Lol. FCS scheduling sucks. Very difficult. It is what it is. Chaves does the best job he can given the constraints I am sure. I've met him once and he seems reasonable.

Wasn't. BF misses things.

Never said Montana destroyed Maine, Im saying, bring in a fcs opponent like San Diego, Tennessee Tech, Indiana State, Eastern Illinois... not just SUU, CPSLO, & UCD YOU FXCKING CLOWN.

Aside from the playoffs, when does EWU bring in non GWC/BSC FCS teams?

Checkmate B:tch!

You're being kind of mean here. hno: This is a polite message board filled with tender ears. :mrgreen:

Haha well my point is, Eastern Washington University's football program NEVER plays a home game against a D1 team other than Big Sky teams or Great West teams (now big sky teams). This years non conf home game? Cal Poly. Ipso-facto

 

[marceagfan5]

BF, I do agree with you that we need to look outside the big sky/former great west conf for non-conf home games, nothing much we can do about next year (which i personally don't like the schedule), but like other big sky teams, we need to start finding different FCS non-conf games from here on out. Scheduling big sky conference teams as non conference games will eventually not be allowed imo, so we have to look elsewhere.

I believe 2013 is a 12 game year? Correct me if i'm wrong....maybe we can even have a 6th or by some miracle a 7th home game that year with some decent non-conf opponents.

 

[BLACKFALKIN1]

BF, I do agree with you that we need to look outside the big sky/former great west conf for non-conf home games, nothing much we can do about next year (which i personally don't like the schedule), but like other big sky teams, we need to start finding different FCS non-conf games from here on out. Scheduling big sky conference teams as non conference games will eventually not be allowed imo, so we have to look elsewhere.

I believe 2013 is a 12 game year? Correct me if i'm wrong....maybe we can even have a 6th or by some miracle a 7th home game that year with some decent non-conf opponents.

Finally, someone get its! Yea 7 home games would be great. Maybe EWU can make some money, especially if attendance is in the 8,000+ range.

 

[EWURanger]

BF, I do agree with you that we need to look outside the big sky/former great west conf for non-conf home games, nothing much we can do about next year (which i personally don't like the schedule), but like other big sky teams, we need to start finding different FCS non-conf games from here on out. Scheduling big sky conference teams as non conference games will eventually not be allowed imo, so we have to look elsewhere.

I believe 2013 is a 12 game year? Correct me if i'm wrong....maybe we can even have a 6th or by some miracle a 7th home game that year with some decent non-conf opponents.

Finally, someone get its! Yea 7 home games would be great. Maybe EWU can make some money, especially if attendance is in the 8,000+ range.

We averaged right at 9k per game this season. Granted, there were only 4 home games, but overall not too bad for a non-Griz home game year. :thumb:

 

[BLACKFALKIN1]

BF, I do agree with you that we need to look outside the big sky/former great west conf for non-conf home games, nothing much we can do about next year (which i personally don't like the schedule), but like other big sky teams, we need to start finding different FCS non-conf games from here on out. Scheduling big sky conference teams as non conference games will eventually not be allowed imo, so we have to look elsewhere.

I believe 2013 is a 12 game year? Correct me if i'm wrong....maybe we can even have a 6th or by some miracle a 7th home game that year with some decent non-conf opponents.

Finally, someone get its! Yea 7 home games would be great. Maybe EWU can make some money, especially if attendance is in the 8,000+ range.

We averaged right at 9k per game this season. Granted, there were only 4 home games, but overall not too bad for a non-Griz home game year. :thumb:

Yes thats great, especially bc UM didnt play in Cheney this year. Nothing but ewu fans got the attendance average over 100% :clap: