Week 4 - Sac State @ Idaho State

[BuckeyeHornetFan]

The only thing worse than this bad performance was the potato camera ISU used to film the game. I thought the ESPN+ deal was going to raise the standards here?


Also still way too many penalties. 11 penalties for 89 yards hurts. A lot of them were pre-snap calls. 

Funny, but my wife and I got a big laugh from the shoddy camera work. We watch a lot of HS football and subscribe to the NFHS network which provides streams of a myriad of games.

On FRI night one of the games we watched had a terrible camera operator (quite common for HS events actually) who never could follow the action once the play broke down field.

During the SAC ST game on SAT night, we both looked at each other and commented that the camera operator from FRI night was obviously working for ESPN too.

Honestly, it’s pretty inexcusable at that level.

As for your last comment re: the pre-snap penalties, I vented about that earlier in the thread during the game. To me, that’s a reflection of coaching and solely on Kris Richardson. That’s his position group. And it’s been a common theme this season.

Gotta get that fixed.

 

[BuckeyeHornetFan]

Do you guys get the feeling that Taylor might be looking at a system like Sean Payton had going on with Brees and Hill? It clearly worked for them, but it doesn't seem like it's working for Taylor. If he wants a decent example currently happening (as it seems like Payton isn't bothering with it now that Brees has retired and he's going almost full-bore with Winston), perhaps it would be the way the 49ers (how I HATE the 49ers!) are using Jimmy Garoppolo and Trey Lance.

I cited both these same examples in the post above yours.

As I stated there, the manner TT is using the 2-QB system greatly differs from how Shanahan and Payton use it.

Shanahan has pretty much only used it at the goal line, maybe a few short yardage situations. But he isn’t pulling Jimmy G for several plays at a time every single possession and also not typically doing so in the middle of possessions.

Same goes for Payton and his use of Taysom Hill.

In short, neither are needlessly killing the momentum of a drive by playing QB musical chairs.

Also, the players they are using seem to be much more of a threat to throw the ball.

If TT really wants the benefit of the extra blocker, just line up Dot, Perk or Fulcher at wildcat and let them run it. They better runners than O’Hara anyway.

 

[superhornet]

I'm not exactly a fan of the Wildcat, particularly how most teams run it. (It usually amounts to nothing more than a QB stretch or power play.) I'd much rather resurrect the Single Wing, possibly increasing the complexity somewhat by changing the formation somewhat with the Double Wing and Notre Dame Box variants, particularly along the goal line. While those formations ARE highly run-centric, they often had triple-threat guys (think UCLA with Bob Waterfield) running the show at tailback. And the nice thing about those formations (particularly the Notre Dame Box) is that in short-yardage and goalline situations, given the penchant of some teams to waste time bringing the ball deep into the backfield only to see the back smeared before he gets anywhere, extra blocking is provided BY VIRTUE OF THE FORMATION (i.e. the QB in the A or B gap, the wing back, etc. Plus, the potential for direct snaps to the tailback, quarterback, and running back would provide many neat ways to confuse the defense, as would spinner plays. My personal preference for those situations is the tried-and-true tight I-Formation quarterback sneak (if you can't get one yard just by your quarterback falling over the center's butt, you don't deserve to win), but if you REALLY have the itch to bring the ball into the backfield, I find it MUCH easier to block all comers out of the Notre Dame Box than a spread gun/Pistol formation, which usually has only the five lineman to keep blitzing safeties and LBers out....

 

[BuckeyeHornetFan]

I'm not exactly a fan of the Wildcat, particularly how most teams run it.

I’m not either. But if you’re gonna run it, do it with your best runner. Unless you’ve got Lamar Jackson, your QB isn’t your best runner.

The Miami Dolphins actually did it correctly when they started the fad back up in 2008 when they used 2 stud RB’s in Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams. It was essentially a variation of the single wing. Defenses had to equally respect Ricky on the jet sweep and Brown on the keeper.

Once teams began to crash, they ran trick plays off the formation such as Brown throwing it or Ricky lateraling it to the QB lined up at WR who then went deep with it.

 

[GreenArmySwarm]

FWIW, NAU dropped 48 points of Idaho St. this week. If that doesn’t tell us how bad Hornets’ offense has been