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Westminister

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Once again Rahe's team has no organized inbounds play and has no focus on rebounding. Not going to beat many Division One teams again this year it seems to me. Can anyone answer why neither big 'Bassett' or 'Kupsas' are playing. Kupsas played 7 minutes in the first game but did not get in this game at all. And Bassett has been sitting on the end of the bench for both games. Are these guys injured or what?
 
Bassett had a knee surgery about a month ago and is sitting until he is cleared to play again. Kupsas is still working on getting back to full strength. I always laugh when peeps say an ACL is a 6 month injury. Yes, for some sports it might be, but for most athletes, especially basketball it is at least a 12 months, almost 18, before a player is back to where he was before the injury occurred. Sad thing, Kupsas was a good rebounder and that is one thing this team, like the past three seasons, needs.
 
baller said:
Once again Rahe's team has no organized inbounds play and has no focus on rebounding. Not going to beat many Division One teams again this year it seems to me. Can anyone answer why neither big 'Bassett' or 'Kupsas' are playing. Kupsas played 7 minutes in the first game but did not get in this game at all. And Bassett has been sitting on the end of the bench for both games. Are these guys injured or what?
What you are seeing is the out of bounds play. some coaches like to score directly off of the OOB play and others just like to get the ball in to start another offiensive set. Why coaches seem to like one over the other, I don't know.
 
talhadfoursteals said:
Bassett had a knee surgery about a month ago and is sitting until he is cleared to play again. Kupsas is still working on getting back to full strength. I always laugh when peeps say an ACL is a 6 month injury. Yes, for some sports it might be, but for most athletes, especially basketball it is at least a 12 months, almost 18, before a player is back to where he was before the injury occurred. Sad thing, Kupsas was a good rebounder and that is one thing this team, like the past three seasons, needs.
Judging by the way Bassett was walking around during time outs, I wouldn't think that he is far off from returning to the floor. I'm sure they will go slow with his recovery. We may need him more, later in the season. We really need to get Hunter waived to play. I heard that the NCAA may be deciding on that issue real soon. With Percey out and Porter with a sprained ankle, we ar a little short at the wing positions. However, Jones is coming along nicely. :coffee:
 
Brick3’s said:
Nope...... not drinking the kool aid this season. The game was lackluster at best.
I agree. They only played well for about 10 minutes and the rebounding was still poor. Not as bad as the previous game, but poor. You can see the potential of this group, but they have a long ways to go to be anywhere close to that potential. I'm not ready to pass any sort of judgment on these guys just yet. With this many new guys thrown together for the first time, it may take a while. I'm glad that this is kind of a freebie season. :coffee:
 
Olds, what out-of-bounds play are you referring to? Do you mean the one where 3 guys stand still near the inbound and a 4th player funs 2/3rds of the way down the court for something resembling a Hail Mary pass. Is that what you are calling a real OB play. Why not at least have the 3 guys standing still move around and screen for someone who might actually be able to get open to receive the inbounds pass in a position for an easy basket? Such a small adjustment would make what Rate is doing an actual out-of-bounds play. As is, it is not!
 
baller said:
Olds, what out-of-bounds play are you referring to? Do you mean the one where 3 guys stand still near the inbound and a 4th player funs 2/3rds of the way down the court for something resembling a Hail Mary pass. Is that what you are calling a real OB play. Why not at least have the 3 guys standing still move around and screen for someone who might actually be able to get open to receive the inbounds pass in a position for an easy basket? Such a small adjustment would make what Rate is doing an actual out-of-bounds play. As is, it is not!
I'm not disagreeing with you, baller. It's definately not a scoring play at all. It's just a play to accomplishe getting the ball inbounded. To be fair, I have seen them run scoring plays from an inbounds pass, just not this year, so far. It will be interesting to see if they start running some of the plays, we all want to see, when it is in a more competitive sort of game. I think we were all a little spoiled with coach A and all of his hundreds of inbound plays. We usually got at least one new inbound play each and every game. We also saw tweeks in our Os and Ds each week. As I recall, he had at least 15 different presses that he would pull in and out of service. Anyway, every coach has their own thing and we have been quite fortunate to have some really, really good coaches here at WSU.
 
Right on Olds! I agree totally... thanks for all your input here. The forum is not the same without you so I, for one, am glad you are here and appreciate your regular input.
 
oldrunner said:
baller said:
Olds, what out-of-bounds play are you referring to? Do you mean the one where 3 guys stand still near the inbound and a 4th player funs 2/3rds of the way down the court for something resembling a Hail Mary pass. Is that what you are calling a real OB play. Why not at least have the 3 guys standing still move around and screen for someone who might actually be able to get open to receive the inbounds pass in a position for an easy basket? Such a small adjustment would make what Rate is doing an actual out-of-bounds play. As is, it is not!
I'm not disagreeing with you, baller. It's definately not a scoring play at all. It's just a play to accomplishe getting the ball inbounded. To be fair, I have seen them run scoring plays from an inbounds pass, just not this year, so far. It will be interesting to see if they start running some of the plays, we all want to see, when it is in a more competitive sort of game. I think we were all a little spoiled with coach A and all of his hundreds of inbound plays. We usually got at least one new inbound play each and every game. We also saw tweeks in our Os and Ds each week. As I recall, he had at least 15 different presses that he would pull in and out of service. Anyway, every coach has their own thing and we have been quite fortunate to have some really, really good coaches here at WSU.


I just dont remember any scoring inbounds plays since we had one for Dame. Dame would inbound to Scotty at the top of the key. Tres or mook would set a corner screen and right as scotty caught the ball dame would head to the corner off that screen. Catch and shoot, smooth as butter.
Now, we all stand around and throw the ball from UNDER THE BASKET into the BACKCOURT. It makes no sense.
 
Wildcat_Fan said:
oldrunner said:
baller said:
Olds, what out-of-bounds play are you referring to? Do you mean the one where 3 guys stand still near the inbound and a 4th player funs 2/3rds of the way down the court for something resembling a Hail Mary pass. Is that what you are calling a real OB play. Why not at least have the 3 guys standing still move around and screen for someone who might actually be able to get open to receive the inbounds pass in a position for an easy basket? Such a small adjustment would make what Rate is doing an actual out-of-bounds play. As is, it is not!
I'm not disagreeing with you, baller. It's definately not a scoring play at all. It's just a play to accomplishe getting the ball inbounded. To be fair, I have seen them run scoring plays from an inbounds pass, just not this year, so far. It will be interesting to see if they start running some of the plays, we all want to see, when it is in a more competitive sort of game. I think we were all a little spoiled with coach A and all of his hundreds of inbound plays. We usually got at least one new inbound play each and every game. We also saw tweeks in our Os and Ds each week. As I recall, he had at least 15 different presses that he would pull in and out of service. Anyway, every coach has their own thing and we have been quite fortunate to have some really, really good coaches here at WSU.


I just dont remember any scoring inbounds plays since we had one for Dame. Dame would inbound to Scotty at the top of the key. Tres or mook would set a corner screen and right as scotty caught the ball dame would head to the corner off that screen. Catch and shoot, smooth as butter.
Now, we all stand around and throw the ball from UNDER THE BASKET into the BACKCOURT. It makes no sense.
IMHO, OOB plays are most effective when the other team hasn't seen them yet. You are always trying to get the other team to make a mistake defensively. If they are prepared for your play and don't make those mistakes, your play fails. That is why Ron would put a new one in each week. Same thing is true of O sets as well. That is one of the reasons we beat North Carolina. We prepared for what they were going to run and did well stopping it. They prepared well for what we were going to run and we ran something else. They were not prepared for what they saw. However, when we only had one day to prepare for the next game, we didn't fare as well. There are up sides and down sides to every coaching philosophy. Seems like a matter of picking your poison.
 

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