What is Weber State Basketball?

[Brick3’s]

https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/4/30/21242820/grad-transfer-portal-college-basketball-byu-matt-haarms-ncaa-who-is-winning-who-is-losing

I’ve said it a thousand times....... aliens have kidnapped RR and he’s playing out the string the next 4 years until he can return to his planet! ( or his contract expires)

Hein, might be good to get an interview with RR minus all the coach talk and get his view on what is Weber State Basketball ! Should we expect more transfers every season and less freshmen? Are Bigs a thing of the past? Is it only about the 3 ball? Is defense optional? What is Weber State Basketball?

Randy use to play inside out..... is that a thing of the past? Are rebounds an issue because players are being told to focus on getting back on defense? If the focus is more on transfers than developing freshmen....... where is RR taking the program? Is he panicking?

 

[Chex]

Weber State Basketball is a pay check to RR. I think he is just throwing spaghetti at the wall to see if it will stick this year with the grad transfers. Wonder how these new players will like the weave offense.
Hopefully they can rebound and defend...but who cares about that these days, just gotta keep jackin threes!

 

[BigWaldO]

I just think it’s funny how Coach Rahe has to validate his reasoning for recruiting so many transfers by saying it’s what everyone is doing. Well then why didn’t you do it as much before? I also don’t think he could be further from the truth because a lot of schools still recruit high school kids. Sure most programs will get a couple transfers but not a whole team of them and every year like Coach Rahe suggests. That notion is laughable. The narrative he portrayed was only to make his actions seem like the right ones. He did the same thing every year for the last 4 years by saying he knew how to fix the problems but never did. Anyone who believes a word he says is naive. He is just throwing rocks into the ocean thinking they are going to float at this point.

 

[Webergrad02]

I just think it’s funny how Coach Rahe has to validate his reasoning for recruiting so many transfers by saying it’s what everyone is doing. Well then why didn’t you do it as much before? I also don’t think he could be further from the truth because a lot of schools still recruit high school kids. Sure most programs will get a couple transfers but not a whole team of them and every year like Coach Rahe suggests. That notion is laughable. The narrative he portrayed was only to make his actions seem like the right ones. He did the same thing every year for the last 4 years by saying he knew how to fix the problems but never did. Anyone who believes a word he says is naive. He is just throwing rocks into the ocean thinking they are going to float at this point.

After this post, you have to spill the beans. What former player are you?

 

[BigWaldO]

I just think it’s funny how Coach Rahe has to validate his reasoning for recruiting so many transfers by saying it’s what everyone is doing. Well then why didn’t you do it as much before? I also don’t think he could be further from the truth because a lot of schools still recruit high school kids. Sure most programs will get a couple transfers but not a whole team of them and every year like Coach Rahe suggests. That notion is laughable. The narrative he portrayed was only to make his actions seem like the right ones. He did the same thing every year for the last 4 years by saying he knew how to fix the problems but never did. Anyone who believes a word he says is naive. He is just throwing rocks into the ocean thinking they are going to float at this point.

After this post, you have to spill the beans. What former player are you?

There’s no fun in revealing myself :lol: I’ll just let you know it’s been a few years since I played. Don’t get me wrong Coach Rahe is a good guy outside of basketball but it doesn’t take long to realize that business Rahe is full of it most of the time.

 

[Chex]

I just think it’s funny how Coach Rahe has to validate his reasoning for recruiting so many transfers by saying it’s what everyone is doing. Well then why didn’t you do it as much before? I also don’t think he could be further from the truth because a lot of schools still recruit high school kids. Sure most programs will get a couple transfers but not a whole team of them and every year like Coach Rahe suggests. That notion is laughable. The narrative he portrayed was only to make his actions seem like the right ones. He did the same thing every year for the last 4 years by saying he knew how to fix the problems but never did. Anyone who believes a word he says is naive. He is just throwing rocks into the ocean thinking they are going to float at this point.

:agree:

I think Rahe just realized with as many players transferring out, he had to plug a lot of holes quickly. The boat is taking in too much water and fans are running out of patience and aren’t up for Freshman heavy teams under performing and hoping in a few years it will pay off with great seasons (provided all the players stick around).

I hope the Wildcats have a great year, but in my opinion Rahe is bringing players in with the hopes it falls into place instead of having a plan or a brand and recruiting accordingly.

Rahe won’t be able to use the non veteran team excuse. I’m sure he can think of others though or pin it on the basketball Gods not being fair.

 

[sacstateman]

I just think it’s funny how Coach Rahe has to validate his reasoning for recruiting so many transfers by saying it’s what everyone is doing. Well then why didn’t you do it as much before? I also don’t think he could be further from the truth because a lot of schools still recruit high school kids. Sure most programs will get a couple transfers but not a whole team of them and every year like Coach Rahe suggests. That notion is laughable. The narrative he portrayed was only to make his actions seem like the right ones. He did the same thing every year for the last 4 years by saying he knew how to fix the problems but never did. Anyone who believes a word he says is naive. He is just throwing rocks into the ocean thinking they are going to float at this point.

:agree:

I think Rahe just realized with as many players transferring out, he had to plug a lot of holes quickly. The boat is taking in too much water and fans are running out of patience and aren’t up for Freshman heavy teams under performing and hoping in a few years it will pay off with great seasons (provided all the players stick around).

I hope the Wildcats have a great year, but in my opinion Rahe is bringing players in with the hopes it falls into place instead of having a plan or a brand and recruiting accordingly.

Rahe won’t be able to use the non veteran team excuse. I’m sure he can think of others though or pin it on the basketball Gods not being fair.

I think he feels the heat...he knew next year better be decent or it may be the end of the line for him.....in a panic, he has tried to scoop any transfer he could get....instead of the non-veteran excuse, he will use the, "they are still learning our system" excuse.....You guys buying that one?

 

[Chex]

I just think it’s funny how Coach Rahe has to validate his reasoning for recruiting so many transfers by saying it’s what everyone is doing. Well then why didn’t you do it as much before? I also don’t think he could be further from the truth because a lot of schools still recruit high school kids. Sure most programs will get a couple transfers but not a whole team of them and every year like Coach Rahe suggests. That notion is laughable. The narrative he portrayed was only to make his actions seem like the right ones. He did the same thing every year for the last 4 years by saying he knew how to fix the problems but never did. Anyone who believes a word he says is naive. He is just throwing rocks into the ocean thinking they are going to float at this point.

:agree:

I think Rahe just realized with as many players transferring out, he had to plug a lot of holes quickly. The boat is taking in too much water and fans are running out of patience and aren’t up for Freshman heavy teams under performing and hoping in a few years it will pay off with great seasons (provided all the players stick around).

I hope the Wildcats have a great year, but in my opinion Rahe is bringing players in with the hopes it falls into place instead of having a plan or a brand and recruiting accordingly.

Rahe won’t be able to use the non veteran team excuse. I’m sure he can think of others though or pin it on the basketball Gods not being fair.

I think he feels the heat...he knew next year better be decent or it may be the end of the line for him.....in a panic, he has tried to scoop any transfer he could get....instead of the non-veteran excuse, he will use the, "they are still learning our system" excuse.....You guys buying that one?

Nope. If a more veteran team can’t learn the system over a few games, then it’s on the coaches for either not teaching/developing or for bringing in a player who can’t learn a system in the first place.

Plus, weaving at the top of the three point line for 25 seconds before chucking up a three point shot doesn’t seem too complicated. :lol:

 

[SWWeatherCat]

I just think it’s funny how Coach Rahe has to validate his reasoning for recruiting so many transfers by saying it’s what everyone is doing. Well then why didn’t you do it as much before? I also don’t think he could be further from the truth because a lot of schools still recruit high school kids. Sure most programs will get a couple transfers but not a whole team of them and every year like Coach Rahe suggests. That notion is laughable. The narrative he portrayed was only to make his actions seem like the right ones. He did the same thing every year for the last 4 years by saying he knew how to fix the problems but never did. Anyone who believes a word he says is naive. He is just throwing rocks into the ocean thinking they are going to float at this point.

:agree:

I think Rahe just realized with as many players transferring out, he had to plug a lot of holes quickly. The boat is taking in too much water and fans are running out of patience and aren’t up for Freshman heavy teams under performing and hoping in a few years it will pay off with great seasons (provided all the players stick around).

I hope the Wildcats have a great year, but in my opinion Rahe is bringing players in with the hopes it falls into place instead of having a plan or a brand and recruiting accordingly.

Rahe won’t be able to use the non veteran team excuse. I’m sure he can think of others though or pin it on the basketball Gods not being fair.

I think he feels the heat...he knew next year better be decent or it may be the end of the line for him.....in a panic, he has tried to scoop any transfer he could get....instead of the non-veteran excuse, he will use the, "they are still learning our system" excuse.....You guys buying that one?

Nope. If a more veteran team can’t learn the system over a few games, then it’s on the coaches for either not teaching/developing or for bringing in a player who can’t learn a system in the first place.

Plus, weaving at the top of the three point line for 25 seconds before chucking up a three point shot doesn’t seem too complicated. :lol:

:rofl: hno: I remember laughing at comments years ago about how difficult it is and long it takes to learn Rahe's system. It still makes me smile just typing the words. Putting it into the context of "the weave and chuck" makes me laugh. I've never been a fan of GS-style basketball and Rahe has proven his version of it doesn't work, it's so hard to watch for me anyway.

I have a really close connection to best of friends with 2 of 3 players from last season's roster. I won't say who they are but 2 of those 3 are are transferring out. The common sentiment both from the players mouths and from observations of how Rahe has treated them both as recruited players and after entering the transfer portal is that Rahe has little concern for their individual success and almost no concern for them once banished to the bench. From what I hear, once they decide to transfer they might as well be dead to him-- I guess this is what "counseling out" looks like? My dislike for Rahe has grown gradually but surely over at least 5 years. My dislike for him at this point goes beyond his coaching effectiveness and what he's done to this program. Based on what I've learned and observed the past couple years, I've lost any respect I may have had about his personal character.

 

[DeeScott]

Amen SWWeatherCat! I've said it before, and I'll say it again: RR has a culture problem of his own making. He likes to blame the kids ("they're just not patient these days" or "they're too young") instead of thinking that it might actually not be the kids at all.

 

[BigWaldO]

I just think it’s funny how Coach Rahe has to validate his reasoning for recruiting so many transfers by saying it’s what everyone is doing. Well then why didn’t you do it as much before? I also don’t think he could be further from the truth because a lot of schools still recruit high school kids. Sure most programs will get a couple transfers but not a whole team of them and every year like Coach Rahe suggests. That notion is laughable. The narrative he portrayed was only to make his actions seem like the right ones. He did the same thing every year for the last 4 years by saying he knew how to fix the problems but never did. Anyone who believes a word he says is naive. He is just throwing rocks into the ocean thinking they are going to float at this point.

:agree:

I think Rahe just realized with as many players transferring out, he had to plug a lot of holes quickly. The boat is taking in too much water and fans are running out of patience and aren’t up for Freshman heavy teams under performing and hoping in a few years it will pay off with great seasons (provided all the players stick around).

I hope the Wildcats have a great year, but in my opinion Rahe is bringing players in with the hopes it falls into place instead of having a plan or a brand and recruiting accordingly.

Rahe won’t be able to use the non veteran team excuse. I’m sure he can think of others though or pin it on the basketball Gods not being fair.

I think he feels the heat...he knew next year better be decent or it may be the end of the line for him.....in a panic, he has tried to scoop any transfer he could get....instead of the non-veteran excuse, he will use the, "they are still learning our system" excuse.....You guys buying that one?

Nope. If a more veteran team can’t learn the system over a few games, then it’s on the coaches for either not teaching/developing or for bringing in a player who can’t learn a system in the first place.

Plus, weaving at the top of the three point line for 25 seconds before chucking up a three point shot doesn’t seem too complicated. :lol:

:rofl: hno: I remember laughing at comments years ago about how difficult it is and long it takes to learn Rahe's system. It still makes me smile just typing the words. Putting it into the context of "the weave and chuck" makes me laugh. I've never been a fan of GS-style basketball and Rahe has proven his version of it doesn't work, it's so hard to watch for me anyway.

I have a really close connection to best of friends with 2 of 3 players from last season's roster. I won't say who they are but 2 of those 3 are are transferring out. The common sentiment both from the players mouths and from observations of how Rahe has treated them both as recruited players and after entering the transfer portal is that Rahe has little concern for their individual success and almost no concern for them once banished to the bench. From what I hear, once they decide to transfer they might as well be dead to him-- I guess this is what "counseling out" looks like? My dislike for Rahe has grown gradually but surely over at least 5 years. My dislike for him at this point goes beyond his coaching effectiveness and what he's done to this program. Based on what I've learned and observed the past couple years, I've lost any respect I may have had about his personal character.

You aren’t wrong. I’ve seen it first hand the way players are treated after they leave and/or hit the end of the bench. I was able to make it through my time with no issues and like I said coach Rahe is a good person when basketball isn’t involved but he truly is not a players coach. I have no personal problems with him and I loved my time but many players I know were treated as scapegoats and it still happens now. Other than the occasional alumni game, I don’t know too many former players that keep close constant contact with coach Rahe.

 

[Chex]

I just think it’s funny how Coach Rahe has to validate his reasoning for recruiting so many transfers by saying it’s what everyone is doing. Well then why didn’t you do it as much before? I also don’t think he could be further from the truth because a lot of schools still recruit high school kids. Sure most programs will get a couple transfers but not a whole team of them and every year like Coach Rahe suggests. That notion is laughable. The narrative he portrayed was only to make his actions seem like the right ones. He did the same thing every year for the last 4 years by saying he knew how to fix the problems but never did. Anyone who believes a word he says is naive. He is just throwing rocks into the ocean thinking they are going to float at this point.

:agree:

I think Rahe just realized with as many players transferring out, he had to plug a lot of holes quickly. The boat is taking in too much water and fans are running out of patience and aren’t up for Freshman heavy teams under performing and hoping in a few years it will pay off with great seasons (provided all the players stick around).

I hope the Wildcats have a great year, but in my opinion Rahe is bringing players in with the hopes it falls into place instead of having a plan or a brand and recruiting accordingly.

Rahe won’t be able to use the non veteran team excuse. I’m sure he can think of others though or pin it on the basketball Gods not being fair.

I think he feels the heat...he knew next year better be decent or it may be the end of the line for him.....in a panic, he has tried to scoop any transfer he could get....instead of the non-veteran excuse, he will use the, "they are still learning our system" excuse.....You guys buying that one?

Nope. If a more veteran team can’t learn the system over a few games, then it’s on the coaches for either not teaching/developing or for bringing in a player who can’t learn a system in the first place.

Plus, weaving at the top of the three point line for 25 seconds before chucking up a three point shot doesn’t seem too complicated. :lol:

:rofl: hno: I remember laughing at comments years ago about how difficult it is and long it takes to learn Rahe's system. It still makes me smile just typing the words. Putting it into the context of "the weave and chuck" makes me laugh. I've never been a fan of GS-style basketball and Rahe has proven his version of it doesn't work, it's so hard to watch for me anyway.

I have a really close connection to best of friends with 2 of 3 players from last season's roster. I won't say who they are but 2 of those 3 are are transferring out. The common sentiment both from the players mouths and from observations of how Rahe has treated them both as recruited players and after entering the transfer portal is that Rahe has little concern for their individual success and almost no concern for them once banished to the bench. From what I hear, once they decide to transfer they might as well be dead to him-- I guess this is what "counseling out" looks like? My dislike for Rahe has grown gradually but surely over at least 5 years. My dislike for him at this point goes beyond his coaching effectiveness and what he's done to this program. Based on what I've learned and observed the past couple years, I've lost any respect I may have had about his personal character.

I think I lost almost all respect for Rahe when he almost didn’t play Morris on Senior Night. Some coaches are classy and start an all Senior lineup even if the underclass men are regular starters.

Weber State has absolutely nothing riding on the game like making a first round bye, and yet Rahe put him in for what like 2 minutes at the end...so lame.

 

[Brick3’s]

The Morris incident was shameful. The kid gave his all to the program, but didn’t get respect back from his Coach. That’s when I decided to join the large number of former fans that will no longer attend another Weber State game until changes are made in the Basketball program. I know that Morris isn’t Lillard, but he deserved and earned the same level of respect from his Coach. I hope Rahe chokes on every dollar in his guarantee contract the next 4 years!

 

[baller]

For the 5th straight year I have gone on record as saying that Rahe is not the man for the job, that he should have been moved on years ago. It is unfortunate that the ex AD was such a believer in RR and thus made it impossible for the school to get rid of him. I tried to discuss it with him on several occasions but all fell on deaf ears. Even when Race was losing early round playoff games by 30+ points the AD stood by him, even inviting me to no longer attend games and to no longer be a fan if I didn't think Rahe was the man for the job. I have no idea if the new AD will exhibit more skill at the job or not, but I do know that he will be an improvement over the ex. I am hopeful that maybe after next season the school will find a way to move RR out. I would be the most shocked guy in the world if he actually won the conference. He won't because he is not a good coach and it is almost impossible to teach an old dog new tricks. What we have seen is what we will get, period! RR has extremely limited coaching skills. The rest of the conference has been recruiting better and closed the gap on RR in this area. RR had an advantage here in his earlier years that made up for his lack of coaching ability. Those days are gone...