Will Cherry on wrong end of Tazer

[LarrytheFarmer]

UM Star Will Cherry and another UM basketball player were involved in another bar fight in Missoula. I personally would rather finish 2nd in the Big Sky in hoops every year as long as we aren't first in player arrests. Good hell Montana get your shit together. But when in Missoula, what else ya gonna do besides get in bar fights?
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Dont taser me Bro!......

 

[wazzuwildcat03]

That is really too bad for Cherry. This has got to hurt his stock for playing professionally. The other player was Deshields. He will be the starting PG for the Grizz next year. I always thought he was a punk. Its refreshing to know that doesn't happen at Weber State. I know nobody is perfect, but I just don't see that happening with our guys. Its a big credit to Coach Rahe and his staff. I cant think of one time since he has been the coach that a player has gotten into trouble. I read that Weber State had a perfect APR score for mens basketball. Thats awesome!! Coach Craves is another story. ha ha. There was always players in trouble with him as coach. It just makes me more pround as an alumni to see our players do the right things on and off the court. I saw that several of the players helped do a fundraiser for some little boy with cancer a few days ago. I love stuff like that. I saw that both our seniors Bamforth and Otis graduated last week. I have met both of them and they are going to be very succesfull whatever they end up doing in life. Ok, Im off my soap box now. ha ha 6 more months!!!!! :rockon:

 

[Webergrad02]

I wonder if he was doing that cocky chest bump while he was being tased.

 

[oldrunner]

That's just really sad. It seems to be the culture in Montana. I don't think they are recruiting bad kids, I think that Montana is turning them into bad kids. Honestly, you walk around the streets of any town in Montana at night, and then tell me what your impression is. It's not a place I would want to send my kids. I would be constantly worried about their safety, or worse yet, their development into young adults. It's not going to change in Montana, it's who they are. It would be like telling the good folks of Wyoming to stop loving them some sheep. :lol: :lol:

 

[weberwildcat]

y does it seem like griz players are always getting tased? usually its always their football team getting in trouble not wayne's crew. :yikes:

 

[SWeberCat02]

Man, compare these clowns to Damian, Scotty, and Mook and it sure makes you proud to be a Wildcat.

 

[Potomac Griz1]

Man, compare these clowns to Damian, Scotty, and Mook and it sure makes you proud to be a Wildcat.

So how do you think Mook would've reacted to some drunk, stoned white guy calling him the n word and then jumping him from behind? Would he have said "Excuse me good sir, I kindly ask you to leave me alone.

Yeah, because as we know your program is full of angels who never get worked up over something right? Us GOOD...them BAAAD... right? :roll:

Here's what was posted on eGriz about what happened:

"So DeShields pled innocent. Cherry has court next week. From what I'm reading/hearing, some 34 year old guy "attacked" Cherry from behind. Cherry defended himself and then a skirmish broke out. Cops came. Cherry was pissed and didn't listen. Got himself tazed and arrested. DeShields decided it would be fun to hollar in the street and got himself arrested. Both could easily get all charges dropped as they weren't the instigators or both could plead guilty as disorderly conduct is nothing. I'm guessing they will dismiss resisting arrest on Cherry because it was the heat of the moment and he didn't try to fight the cops.

The issue with downtown Missoula is when you have ignorant (I'm gonna say it) white people and then bring alcohol and other drugs into the equation you have a recipe for disaster. I've seen it first hand and I'm honestly amazed there aren't more instances of large fights breaking out downtown."


Yeah, I'll admit Deshields has a mouth on him...as does Bamforth, as does Mook...and ya know what? I respect the hell out of Bamforth and Mook...both great players and a little trash talking is all part of the game. To label both Cherry and DeShields as "clowns" like they were the cause of the above situation is pretty damn foolish and shows a clear bias of the "US GOOD THEM BAD" mentality that many sports fans seem to have...

So again, how would Mook have reacted in the above situation? Would he he have been calm or would he have acted the way he did when Deshields ran his mouth at the game a few months ago? In fact, if YOU were in the situation where some drunk stoned racist asshole jumped YOU from behind, how would you react?

Yeah, Cherry shouldn't have told the cops "fuck you" or whatever he said to them, but FFS people, when you get jumped by some racist asshole like that, tempers are going to be running pretty damn high and logic isn't going to win the battle in your brain most of the time.

 

[oldrunner]

Actually, I know Mook, Scotty, and Damian fairly well. I don't think any of them would have been in the bar in the first place. Part, or maybe most, of the problem in Montana is the attitude of the community. You see this as normal behavior and instead of dealing with it appropriately, choose to marginalize and blame everyone but the ones who are responsible for their own behavior. Montana is nothing more than a large group of co-dependent knuckleheads.

Anyone dumb enough to send their kids to school in Montana should, at least, be aware of the environment they are throwing their kids into. :yikes:

 

[Potomac Griz1]

Actually, I know Mook, Scotty, and Damian fairly well. I don't think any of them would have been in the bar in the first place. Part, or maybe most, of the problem in Montana is the attitude of the community. You see this as normal behavior and instead of dealing with it appropriately, choose to marginalize and blame everyone but the ones who are responsible for their own behavior. Montana is nothing more than a large group of co-dependent knuckleheads.

Anyone dumb enough to send their kids to school in Montana should, at least, be aware of the environment they are throwing their kids into. :yikes:

Thanks for proving my point about the "US GOOD THEM BAD" mentality of many sports fans.

You honestly think that none of your players go to bars ever? You honestly think that none of your players have ever gotten into a shoving match with someone? You honestly believe that your school is any different than 99.9% of the colleges out there where people drink, get in fights, and shit like this happens on a daily basis? Really? Ok then.... :wall:

Really your posts sound an awful lot like that old announcer you guys got who complains non stop about the other school's coach, even when your coach is doing the same exact thing. Completely out of touch with reality...

We don't really even have the full story yet as to what happened. From what one poster on eGriz said he wouldn't be surprised if it's dismissed... If it's true that the other guy attacked Cherry while flinging racist comments around, well then can you see why Cherry and DeShields might've been a bit pissed off? Sure bad decisions were made, but in the heat of the moment when someone attacks you it's pretty damn easy to lose your cool.

 

[SWeberCat02]

Actually, I know Mook, Scotty, and Damian fairly well. I don't think any of them would have been in the bar in the first place. Part, or maybe most, of the problem in Montana is the attitude of the community. You see this as normal behavior and instead of dealing with it appropriately, choose to marginalize and blame everyone but the ones who are responsible for their own behavior. Montana is nothing more than a large group of co-dependent knuckleheads.

Anyone dumb enough to send their kids to school in Montana should, at least, be aware of the environment they are throwing their kids into. :yikes:

Thanks for proving my point about the "US GOOD THEM BAD" mentality of many sports fans.

You honestly think that none of your players go to bars ever? You honestly think that none of your players have ever gotten into a shoving match with someone? You honestly believe that your school is any different than 99.9% of the colleges out there where people drink, get in fights, and shit like this happens on a daily basis? Really? Ok then.... :wall:

Really your posts sound an awful lot like that old announcer you guys got who complains non stop about the other school's coach, even when your coach is doing the same exact thing. Completely out of touch with reality...

We don't really even have the full story yet as to what happened. From what one poster on eGriz said he wouldn't be surprised if it's dismissed... If it's true that the other guy attacked Cherry while flinging racist comments around, well then can you see why Cherry and DeShields might've been a bit pissed off? Sure bad decisions were made, but in the heat of the moment when someone attacks you it's pretty damn easy to lose your cool.

I believe you are the one completely out of touch with reality. This shit doesn't happen on a daily basis everywhere.

 

[Potomac Griz1]

I believe you are the one completely out of touch with reality. This shit doesn't happen on a daily basis everywhere.

Wow, so another Weber fan that believes that their athletes are all angels who never go to bars, or lose their temper. Nevermind how your players lost their shit when Deshields ran his mouth. Imagine how some of them would've reacted to what Cherry ran into hmmm....think they would've remained calm over that? Oh in your mind they probably would have, because they'd never do anything wrong or ever go to a place that served alcoholic beverages! Oh heavens no! Whatever floats your boat I guess...

And again, the full story hasn't come out nor has either player been convicted of anything...so along with the "US GOOD THEM BAD" mentality, you seem to ignore the little "innocent until proven guilty" thing and just want to assume that someone is guilty immediately, as long as it's not someone from your team right?

of course it'll never happen to your team, because no Weber player or coach EVER bryant etuati would get in trouble trevyn smith would they? Of course not, your college athletes are all saints who spend all of their free time at church right?

 

[n.ogdencat]

Potomac where did you find that picture of Hauck? LOL...kidding. I think it is an unfortunate situation. Being in the wrong place at the wrong time for Cherry. De Sheilds after hearing the crap that came from his mouth, I'm really not shocked. I will say it though, De Sheilds is the type of guy, if he can keep himself out of trouble is a great team-mate and player. I'm sure he will be back next fall. Cherry...well this doesn't look good for his pro-aspirations. He will play over seas for sure though. Too bad...I thought for sure he would end up in the NBA. Maybe he will. I only hope the best for him. He is a hell of a good player.

 

[Potomac Griz1]

Potomac where did you find that picture of Hauck? LOL...kidding. I think it is an unfortunate situation. Being in the wrong place at the wrong time for Cherry. De Sheilds after hearing the crap that came from his mouth, I'm really not shocked. I will say it though, De Sheilds is the type of guy, if he can keep himself out of trouble is a great team-mate and player. I'm sure he will be back next fall. Cherry...well this doesn't look good for his pro-aspirations. He will play over seas for sure though. Too bad...I thought for sure he would end up in the NBA. Maybe he will. I only hope the best for him. He is a hell of a good player.

Well, I would've posted a picture of Delaney after kicking off to start both the first and second half in the UNC game last year, but I was a little worried that the location of his head might cause the post to be censored

DeShields definitely has a mouth on him, but you're right he seems to be a great teammate and very well liked by his teammates. I'm glad we have him! I had a teammate in high school that was a major trash talker too... he could get into people's heads and make them really start playing like shit. Unlike DeShields though, his trash talk wasn't limited to opposing players, so sometimes I wanted to beat the hell out of him as did the other people on our team Think he ended up going to medical school if I remember right.

If what's being said over on eGriz is true, the resisting arrest charge may end up being dropped against Cherry, due to it being in the heat of the moment after he was jumped by that asshole. It certainly doesn't help his chances of ending up in the NBA having any arrest on his record, even if it's dropped

Big congrats BTW to Lillard. Definitely well deserved! It's great to see his success continue at the highest level too. He was a hell of a lot of fun to watch. I remember getting to one of the games in Missoula really early when the Griz were playing Weber, and getting to watch Lillard throw down some pretty impressive dunks. Since it was before the official "pre-game warmup" a lot of players were dunking...but Lillard's were flat out amazing and gave everyone who got there early a good show.

 

[oldrunner]

Obviously, I wasn't there to witness the bar fight and subsequent arrest. There may well have been racist things said. Here in Utah our racists don't go to bars, They attend church and tea party meetings. :lol:

I really don't know either player, but I do know of Cherry. We looked at him long and hard, coming out of high school. Partway through the process we decided to go another way. I think that Will may have decided that he didn't want to play behind Lillard for three years. Any way, I followed him a bit in high school and was happy for his success in Montana. I believe that he probably is a good kid in a bad situation. However, I stand by my comment about the culture in Montana being the root of the problem. Racists who love to drink and fight is not a good combination, in my book. And the rest of the community that tries to sweep it under the rug, doesn't help.

We do have players who may stop at a bar for a drink now and then. In the past, some of those players have found themselves in similar trouble. When it has happened, these athletes have been dismissed or disciplined appropriately. I know that Randy would not put up with it at all. They would be suspended from the team and only reinstated if found not guilty, and maybe not even then. I also know that his players are instructed on what to avoid and how to avoid it.

I really do hope for the best for both players. :thumb: