I' m mostly frustrated about he last two games, but wondering if there as ever been a worse #1 seed for the BSC tournament? I'm going back to the late 80's in my head and can't think of anyone worse. If we had 7-8 losses in a league that was 10th-15th in conference RPI that would be one thing, but this is not a strong conference. There are some seasons in the past where this team would be a 5 or worse seed....not good.
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Worst #1 seed in BSC History?
- Thread starter hdqweber
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WeberSki said:
He kept saying how PSU was hungry and playing good ball... I get that PSU is fighting for a BSC birth, but WSU is playing for a outright title... WSU should be the more hungry team.. weberski is right, Rahe acts like NAU and now PSU are top 25 teams playing out of their minds.... W got mopped and that is his best explanation is to say PSU is playing hungry and the BSC has parity....
Clark W Grizwald
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Well, this will be the BSC regular season champion with the most losses. Of course, there are more conference games now. But this really is a weak year in the BSC.
DeeWildcatTailgater
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Judging by conference records, it's clear that this year's BigSky has many more capable teams as compared to previous years. In the past, all but 3-4 teams were terrible. 6 losses is a lot, but if it's enough to win the league, no complaints here.
Just please (1) do not share with title with Montana (2) If we play Montana, we must at any cost, have the loudest, most annoying, student section imaginable. If possible, we should switch benches and load section f with crazies holding signs and in costumes or whatever is most distracting to the Grizz.
Just please (1) do not share with title with Montana (2) If we play Montana, we must at any cost, have the loudest, most annoying, student section imaginable. If possible, we should switch benches and load section f with crazies holding signs and in costumes or whatever is most distracting to the Grizz.
hawkssb04
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Could very well be. I made the mistake of going over to eGriz after last night's game. They can smell blood in the water. One of them even had this to say. It pissed me off, but it's hard to argue against.
"...weber generally fallz apart...like a two dollar suitcase...about this time of year..."
"...weber generally fallz apart...like a two dollar suitcase...about this time of year..."
Sometime in the 80's I believe, Montana State won the tourney (3 games) and went to the
NCAA with a losing record!
Really tiring to watch each team play us the same defensively yet Rahe makes few adjustments.
Never has been a game coach. Stubborn would be one excuse.
When Weber plays best, Berry has 7-9 assists and maybe 14pts. When he is the only driver to the
rim and takes the game into his own hands, we lose. Has this affected teamwork? They played brilliantly
at NAU this year and that is how they should be playing.
Others are right, doesn't Weber have something big to play for? Thought of sharing the title with the Griz should be as big an incentive as there is.
NCAA with a losing record!
Really tiring to watch each team play us the same defensively yet Rahe makes few adjustments.
Never has been a game coach. Stubborn would be one excuse.
When Weber plays best, Berry has 7-9 assists and maybe 14pts. When he is the only driver to the
rim and takes the game into his own hands, we lose. Has this affected teamwork? They played brilliantly
at NAU this year and that is how they should be playing.
Others are right, doesn't Weber have something big to play for? Thought of sharing the title with the Griz should be as big an incentive as there is.
Grizwald said:
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wmfred said:
SO true...When Rahe has a team, not a star, his teams tend to play better. Rahe's system excels with balance. When there is only 1 guy trying to do everything the program tends to suffer a bit. Lillard's last year, he really had no choice. The team was devastated with injuries and Lillard had to take over. This year, Berry, at times, tries to be Lillard, but isn't. I'm starting to think next years team will be better, because the entire team will have to buy into every play and balance will be the norm, whereas, this year guys take plays off and expect Berry to do everything. No balance ='s bad team; balance ='s good team (look at last year). :roll:
Wildcat_Fan
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In Lillards last year they also went to a pick and roll offense. Then last year went back to Rahes system and I agree 100% its a TEAM system. We saw how poorly it was at the beg of this year when everyone was playing one on one. The problem with relying on Berry, he is no Lillard. When he plays team ball, attacks and distributes the ball we do well. But when he takes 15+ shots we lose. He is going to be the key the rest of the yr becuase the other 2 seniors have done nothing.. Berry needs to step up and be a leader and RUN the offense, not be the offense.
If we turn it around and play how we were three weeks ago i think we will be ok, if we dont, I dont see us winning even our first tourney game.
If we turn it around and play how we were three weeks ago i think we will be ok, if we dont, I dont see us winning even our first tourney game.
weberwildman
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I'M SURE THAT THIS IS A DUMB QUESTION, BUT HAS ANYONE ELSE NOTICED THAT JOEL DOES NOT KICK THE BALL OUT TO RESET AFTER GRABBING AN OFFENSIVE REBOUND? HE BETTER LEARN HOW TO KICK THE BALL OUT INSTEAD OF BEING SO SELFISH UNDER THE BASKET OR HE MIGHT BE THE PLAYER THAT HITS THE ROAD NEXT YEAR. IF YOU REMEMBER RAHE HAS A REPUTATION OF KICKING SOMEBODY OFF THE TEAM ALMOST EVERY YEAR THAT DOESN'T PLAY TEAM BALL. THE THREE PLAYERS OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD THAT HAVE BEEN KICKED OFF THE TEAM, TYLER JONES, FRANKLIN SESSION, AND GELAUN WHEELRIGHT, AND THE TWO PLAYERS I WOULDN'T MIND LEAVING IS ROYCE WILLIAMS AND RASHAUD GITTENS, (I MAY EAT MY WORDS)THE ONE THAT SCARES ME THAT RAHE MIGHT BE THINKIN OF GETTING RID OF IS JOEL BOLOMBOY. NOW, I'VE NEVER BEEN A COACH BUT IF MY PLAYERS DIDN'T PLAY AS A TEAM, I'D BE LOOKING FOR DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES. 
weberwildcat
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1 seed's since the conf tourney began in '76 with the most losses in conf or less than 20 overall wins.
1976: weber 9-5, 21-11
1986: nau 9-5, 19-10
2000: um 12-4, 17-11
2004: ewu 11-3, 17-13
2005: psu 11-3, 19-9
2007: weber 11-5, 20-12
only 2 of the above teams went to the big dance, ewu 15 seed and wsu 07 15 seed.
worst record teams and/or lowest big sky tourney seeded team to dance:
year - team - big sky finish - overall record
1976: boise st, 2nd, 18-11
1978: weber, 3rd, 19-10
1986: msu, 6th, 14-17
1987: isu, 7th, 15-16
1994: boise st, 5th, 17-13
2000: nau, 3rd, 20-11
2002: um, 5th, 16-15
2005: um, 2nd, 18-13
2010: um, 4th, 22-10
1976: weber 9-5, 21-11
1986: nau 9-5, 19-10
2000: um 12-4, 17-11
2004: ewu 11-3, 17-13
2005: psu 11-3, 19-9
2007: weber 11-5, 20-12
only 2 of the above teams went to the big dance, ewu 15 seed and wsu 07 15 seed.
worst record teams and/or lowest big sky tourney seeded team to dance:
year - team - big sky finish - overall record
1976: boise st, 2nd, 18-11
1978: weber, 3rd, 19-10
1986: msu, 6th, 14-17
1987: isu, 7th, 15-16
1994: boise st, 5th, 17-13
2000: nau, 3rd, 20-11
2002: um, 5th, 16-15
2005: um, 2nd, 18-13
2010: um, 4th, 22-10
SWWeatherCat
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hawkssb04 said:
Yeah, pretty true at least recently, but I guess at least Weber hasn't been the biggest embarrassment the conference has ever endured on the national stage in the 40 point sh1t kicking put on the Grizz last year.
