WSU in the FCS Rankings

[weberwildcat]

TSN Top 25 we are getting close at #37
CBS Top 25 we are getting close at #34
http://www.weberhoops.com/football.htm - for the links to the rankings sites

Cameron Higgins ranks fifth in the Football Championship Subdivision with a passing efficiency rating of 171.7. At this rate Higgins will likely be a candidate for the Walter Payton Award.

Tim Toone is averaging 107 receiving yards a game, good for third in the Big Sky and ninth nationally.

Weber's Bryant Eteuati is first in the Big Sky and 14th in the FCS in punt returns, at 14.7 per game.
Eteuati has returned two punts and two kickoffs for TDs in his career.

 

[wsucatfan]

Next week top 25 ranking.

 

[weberwildcat]

As of Oct 6th:

TSN's FCS Top 25
http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/misc/tsn-div-1aa-poll.htm

1. James Madison Dukes (104) 5-1 2,793 1
2. Appalachian State Mountaineers (4) 3-2 2,558 2
3. McNeese State Cowboys (1) 3-1 2,461 4
4. New Hampshire Wildcats (2) 4-0 2,218 5
5. Richmond Spiders 4-2 2,160 6
6. Elon Phoenix 5-1 1,971 7
7. Cal Poly Mustangs 3-1 1,943 8
8. Wofford Terriers 3-1 1,785 9
9. Villanova Wildcats 4-1 1,752 14
10. Northern Iowa Panthers 3-2 1,671 10
11. North Dakota State Bison 3-2 1,599 17
12. Montana Grizzlies 4-1 1,553 was 3rd
13. Massachusetts Minutemen 3-2 1,405 18
14. Central Arkansas Bears 4-1 1,038 19
15. Liberty Flames 5-0 975 20
16. Southern Illinois Salukis 2-2 881 13
17. Western Illinois Leathernecks 3-2 751 21
18. Northern Arizona Lumberjacks 4-1 688 previously 24th
19. Jacksonville State Gamecocks 4-1 668 22
20. Furman Paladins 4-2 615 15
21. The Citadel Bulldogs 3-2 531 12
22. Weber State Wildcats 4-2 501 previously 37th
23. Eastern Washington Eagles 2-3 458 previously 11th
24. Delaware Blue Hens 2-3 406 16
25. South Dakota State Jackrabbits 3-3 286 23

Others receiving votes: Tennessee State 164, Hampton 147, Sam Houston State 126, Montana State 85, Eastern Illinois 57, South Carolina State 55, Harvard 51, Georgia Southern 50, San Diego 34, Cornell 28, Bethune-Cookman 26, Youngstown State 17, Yale 10, Lafayette 9, North Dakota 8, Northeastern 8, Prairie View 8, Sacred Heart 6, Southern 5, Florida A&M 5, Central Connecticut State 4, Eastern Kentucky 4, Grambling 4, Princeton 4, Colgate 4, William & Mary 3, Brown 2, Delaware State 1, Illinois State 1, Northwestern State 1, Portland State 1, Texas State 1.

 

[purplefogdog]

YIKES!

As of Oct 6th:

TSN's FCS Top 25
http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/misc/tsn-div-1aa-poll.htm

1. James Madison Dukes (104) 5-1 2,793 1
2. Appalachian State Mountaineers (4) 3-2 2,558 2
3. McNeese State Cowboys (1) 3-1 2,461 4
4. New Hampshire Wildcats (2) 4-0 2,218 5
5. Richmond Spiders 4-2 2,160 6
6. Elon Phoenix 5-1 1,971 7
7. Cal Poly Mustangs 3-1 1,943 8
8. Wofford Terriers 3-1 1,785 9
9. Villanova Wildcats 4-1 1,752 14
10. Northern Iowa Panthers 3-2 1,671 10
11. North Dakota State Bison 3-2 1,599 17
12. Montana Grizzlies 4-1 1,553 was 3rd
13. Massachusetts Minutemen 3-2 1,405 18
14. Central Arkansas Bears 4-1 1,038 19
15. Liberty Flames 5-0 975 20
16. Southern Illinois Salukis 2-2 881 13
17. Western Illinois Leathernecks 3-2 751 21
18. Northern Arizona Lumberjacks 4-1 688 previously 24th
19. Jacksonville State Gamecocks 4-1 668 22
20. Furman Paladins 4-2 615 15
21. The Citadel Bulldogs 3-2 531 12
22. Weber State Wildcats 4-2 501 previously 37th
23. Eastern Washington Eagles 2-3 458 previously 11th
24. Delaware Blue Hens 2-3 406 16
25. South Dakota State Jackrabbits 3-3 286 23

Others receiving votes: Tennessee State 164, Hampton 147, Sam Houston State 126, Montana State 85, Eastern Illinois 57, South Carolina State 55, Harvard 51, Georgia Southern 50, San Diego 34, Cornell 28, Bethune-Cookman 26, Youngstown State 17, Yale 10, Lafayette 9, North Dakota 8, Northeastern 8, Prairie View 8, Sacred Heart 6, Southern 5, Florida A&M 5, Central Connecticut State 4, Eastern Kentucky 4, Grambling 4, Princeton 4, Colgate 4, William & Mary 3, Brown 2, Delaware State 1, Illinois State 1, Northwestern State 1, Portland State 1, Texas State 1.

 

[native]

:ugeek: The computer has us ranked even higher, at #6 in the FCS, and #95 among all 245 D1A and D1AA teams, ahead of Montana (106), Northern Arizona (115) and Montana State (136).

 

[purplefogdog]

I met Mike Snoy. It was like meeting Jonathan McCain! LOL!!

 

[weberwildcat]

As of Oct 11 after our win over MSU, we are #22 until Monday afternoon when the rankings come out by TSN, #19 and #21 both lost.

#12 UM beat #23 EWU

#18 NAU beat PSU

http://www.weberhoops.com/football.htm

Looks like we should be in the teens in the next rankings.

 

[wsucatfan]

As of Oct 11 after our win over MSU, we are #22 until Monday afternoon when the rankings come out by TSN, #19 and #21 both lost.

#12 UM beat #23 EWU

#18 NAU beat PSU

http://www.weberhoops.com/football.htm

Looks like we should be in the teens in the next rankings.

Let's keep moving up, teens is fine for now, but it's single digits, or bust!!!

 

[weberwildcat]

TSN Poll Results after Week 7:

1. James Madison Dukes (105) 6-1 2,649 1
2. Appalachian State Mountaineers (1) 4-2 2,507 2
3. Elon Phoenix 6-1 2,151 6
4. Wofford Terriers 4-1 2,082 8
5. Cal Poly Mustangs 3-1 2,037 7
6. Northern Iowa Panthers 4-2 1,884 10
7. Villanova Wildcats 4-1 1,876 9
8. Montana Grizzlies 5-1 1,804 12
9. Richmond Spiders 4-3 1,608 5
10. Massachusetts Minutemen 4-2 1,497 13
11. New Hampshire Wildcats 4-1 1,458 4
12. McNeese State Cowboys 3-2 1,440 3
13. Central Arkansas Bears 5-1 1,291 14
14. Liberty Flames 6-0 1,152 15
15. Western Illinois Leathernecks 4-2 1,054 17
16. Southern Illinois Salukis 3-2 1,034 16
17. Northern Arizona Lumberjacks 5-1 932 18
18. Weber State Wildcats 5-2 771 22
19. Furman Paladins 5-2 744 20
20. North Dakota State Bison 3-3 645 11
21. South Dakota State Jackrabbits 3-3 348 25
22. Tennessee State Tigers 5-1 333 NR
23. Jacksonville State Gamecocks 4-2 265 19
24. The Citadel Bulldogs 3-3 184 21
25. Hampton Pirates 4-1 173 NR
Others receiving votes: William & Mary 129, Harvard 100, South Carolina State 97, Eastern Washington 78, Texas State 81, Georgia Southen 61, Sam Houston State 60, San Diego 38, Lafayette 29, Tennessee-Martin 25, Delaware 24, Eastern Kentucky 22, Prairie View 21, Northwestern State 17, Grambling 13, UC Davis 12, Colgate 11, Princeton 11, Sacred Heart 11, Eastern Illinois 10, Maine 10, Cornell 9, North Dakota 9, Southern 7, Yale 6, Northeastern 6, Montana State 5, Florida A&M 4, Delaware State 1, Penn 1.


As of October 13, 2008, at 02:12 PM ET

 

[native]

TSN Poll Results after Week 7:

1. James Madison Dukes (105) 6-1 2,649 1
...
8. Montana Grizzlies 5-1 1,804 12
...
17. Northern Arizona Lumberjacks 5-1 932 18
18. Weber State Wildcats 5-2 771 22

As of October 13, 2008, at 02:12 PM ET

This week (as of 13 October), the computer has Weber State ranked even higher among Football Championship Subdivision teams, at #2, ahead of Montana at #4 and Northern Arizona at a distant #11.

Setting aside automatic conference bids for the moment, if the playoff brackets were determined by the TSN poll, three teams ranked in the top 16 by the computer would not make the playoffs, including both Weber State and Northern Arizona. The third program left out would be William and Mary (computer rank #14).

Consequently, three teams NOT ranked in the top 16 by the computer WOULD make the playoffs if the TSN poll were used as the basis of creating the playoff brackets: McNeese State (computer rank #20), Central Arkansas (computer rank #19) and Southern Illinois (computer rank #18).

Weber State is the only team with such a glaring disparity between the computer and TSN poll ranking (18-2=16 places!). It will be interesting to see if the poll rankings converge as the season progresses.

 

[wsucatfan]

TSN Poll Results after Week 7:

1. James Madison Dukes (105) 6-1 2,649 1
...
8. Montana Grizzlies 5-1 1,804 12
...
17. Northern Arizona Lumberjacks 5-1 932 18
18. Weber State Wildcats 5-2 771 22

As of October 13, 2008, at 02:12 PM ET

This week (as of 13 October), the computer has Weber State ranked even higher among Football Championship Subdivision teams, at #2, ahead of Montana at #4 and Northern Arizona at a distant #11.

Setting aside automatic conference bids for the moment, if the playoff brackets were determined by the TSN poll, three teams ranked in the top 16 by the computer would not make the playoffs, including both Weber State and Northern Arizona. The third program left out would be William and Mary (computer rank #14).

Consequently, three teams NOT ranked in the top 16 by the computer WOULD make the playoffs if the TSN poll were used as the basis of creating the playoff brackets: McNeese State (computer rank #20), Central Arkansas (computer rank #19) and Southern Illinois (computer rank #18).

Weber State is the only team with such a glaring disparity between the computer and TSN poll ranking (18-2=16 places!). It will be interesting to see if the poll rankings converge as the season progresses.

That is from a lack of respect for our team.

 

[weberwildcat]

http://www.championshipsubdivisionnews.com/index.php?blog=5&title=10-13-08-gridiron-power-index-gpi-james--1&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1


Grid Iron Power Index:

The Gridiron Power Index (GPI), the index ranking for the NCAA Division I FCS and a top indicator of at-large playoff selection continues with James Madison in the top spot again this week.

10/13/2008 GPI Top 25
1. James Madison (1.00)
2. Montana (4.75)
3T. Cal Poly (5.00)
3T. Appalachian St (5.00)
5. Villanova (5.88)
6. Richmond (6.38)
7. Wofford (7.63)
8. Weber St (8.50)
9. Massachusetts (8.63)
10. Elon (8.88)
11. Northern Iowa (10.38)
12. N Arizona (13.00)
13. New Hampshire (13.50)
14. W Illinois (14.25)
15. Cent Arkansas (14.38)
16. McNeese St (17.63)
17. William & Mary (18.63)
18. Furman (19.75)
19. S Illinois (19.88)
20. Liberty (20.00)
21. Ga Southern (23.00)
22. Harvard (23.38)
23. S Dakota St (23.88)
24. Sam Houston St (24.00)
25T. UC Davis (24.25)
25T. Northeastern (24.25)

Conference Ranking:
Rank, League, Total Average
1. Colonial Athletic Association (23.34)
2. Southern Conference (29.07)
3. Great West Football Conference (30.65)
4. Big Sky Conference (31.15)
5. Southland Conference (33.46)
6. Missouri Valley Football Conference (34.91)
7. Ivy League (47.32)
8. Ohio Valley Conference (49.84)
9. Big South Conference (50.99)
10. Patriot League (52.65)
11. Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference (62.44)
12. Northeast Conference (66.63)
13. Southwestern Athletic Conference (69.13)
14. Pioneer Football League (74.38)
15. Independents (80.3)


4. Big Sky Conference (31.15) ()
2. Montana (4.75)
8. Weber St (8.50)
12. N Arizona (13.00)
30. Montana St (29.50)
34. Sacramento St (31.88)
37. E Washington (34.25)
57. N Colorado (45.13)
59. Portland St (46.38)
93. Idaho St (67.00)


I wonder if we didn't have ISU if we'd be the top or 2nd best conf...

 

[weberwildcat]

This link has the 3 FCS Polls on one page:

http://www.championshipsubdivisionnews.com/index.php?blog=5&title=2008-fcs-polls&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

 

[weberwildcat]

Latest from the Sagarin rankings Oct 20 NCAA Div I Football, 245 teams.

10 TCU
14 Utah
33 BYU
71 Hawaii
70 UM
83 Weber State
85 Rutgers
88 Michigan
89 Colorado State
91 NC State
93 UNLV
98 Mississippi State
103 Iowa State
108 NAU
110 Texas A&M
117 Washington
134 Utah State
135 San Diego State
144 Washington State
145 Eastern Washington
146 Wyoming
189 Idaho
215 Idaho State

 

[weberwildcat1]

Playoff Predictions as of Oct 22:

http://www.smebroadcasting.com/football/fcsbrackets.html

 

[native]

After beating down Northern Arizona 42-14 yesterday, in another Big Sky "statement" win, Sagarin's computer now ranks WSU at #3 among all Football Championship Subdivision teams, behind only highly regarded Richmond at #2 and consensus #1 James Madison. ...oh, and ahead of Montana at #4.

Hopefully the eastern press and coaches will pay attention in this week's polls.

Here are the Top 25 results from the 20 October Coach's poll:

1 James Madison (27) beat #9 Villanova 23-19
2 Appalachian State beat #18 Furman 26-14
3 Cal Poly beat unranked Southern Utah 69-41
4 Northern Iowa beat unranked Youngstown State 21-0
5 Montana beat unranked Northern Colorado 41-20
6 Wofford (1) beat #7 Elon 55-20
7 Elon lost to #6 Wofford 20-55
8 Richmond beat unranked Georgetown 48-0
9 Villanova lost to #1 James Madison 19-23
10 New Hampshire beat unranked Towson 42-14
11 McNeese State lost to unranked Nicholls State 35-38
12 Central Arkansas beat unranked SE Louisiana 28-21
13 Southern Illinois beat unranked Missouri State 23-17
14 Western Illinois (idle)
15 Northern Arizona lost to #17 Weber State 14-42
16 Massachusetts beat Bryant 42-7
17 Weber State beat #15 Northern Arizona 42-14
18 Furman lost to #2 Appalachian State 14-26
19 Tennessee State lost to unranked SE Missouri State 20-27
20 Jacksonville State lost to Tennessee-Martin 30-31
21 Liberty beat unranked Charleston Southern 42-0
22 Hampton lost to #24 South Carolina State 13-35
23 William and Mary beat unranked Rhode Island 34-24
24 South Carolina State beat #22 Hampton 35-13
25 North Dakota State beat unranked Illinois State 25-7

After the convincing WSU victory over Northern Arizona, the Wildcats could still lose a conference game and have the Bog Sky Conference championship locked up. Hopefully, last week's scare vs UNC disabused the lads of any idea of dismissing a weak opponent, and they will stay focused to win out the remaining conference games with more "statement" victories on the way to the FCS playoffs.

It will be interesting to see if the coach's poll and other "opinion" polls catch up to the computer rankings this week. Certainly Weber will move up a few notches. Will they break in to the top ten?

 

[weberwildcat]

Oct 27th:
http://64.246.64.33/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/misc/TSN-DIV-1AA-POLL.htm

1. James Madison Dukes (98) 7-1 2,594 1
2. Appalachian State Mountaineers (3) 6-2 2,457 2
3. Wofford Terriers (2) 6-1 2,324 4
4. Cal Poly Mustangs (1) 5-1 2,210 6
5. Northern Iowa Panthers 6-2 2,033 5
6. Montana Grizzlies 7-1 1,959 8
7. Villanova Wildcats 5-2 1,823 7
8. Richmond Spiders 6-3 1,778 9
9. New Hampshire Wildcats 6-1 1,687 10
10. Elon Phoenix 7-2 1,581 3
11. Central Arkansas Bears 7-1 1,514 13
12. Western Illinois Leathernecks 5-2 1,473 12
13. Weber State Wildcats 7-2 1,461 16
14. Southern Illinois Salukis 5-2 1,391 14
15. Massachusetts Minutemen 5-3 976 17
16. William & Mary Tribe 5-2 792 23
17. Liberty Flames 7-1 763 20
18. Furman Paladins 6-3 722 18
19. Northern Arizona Lumberjacks 6-2 715 15
20. McNeese State Cowboys 4-3 665 11
21. Lafayette Leopards 6-1 585 24
22. South Carolina State Bulldogs 6-2 489 NR
23. Harvard Crimson 5-1 395 25
24. Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks 7-2 270 NR
25. Tennessee State Tigers 6-2 156 19
Others receiving votes: Texas State 127, South Dakota State 95, Maine 70, Jacksonville State 67, North Dakota State 66, Prairie View 63, Georgia Southern 60, Hampton 54, Florida A&M 47, Colgate 44, Northwestern State 33, Eastern Washington 32, Grambling 27, Penn 26, Albany 25, UC Davis 25, Eastern Kentucky 24, San Diego 14, Holy Cross 11, Sacred Heart 10, Monmouth 4, North Dakota 4, Morgan State 3, Dayton 2.

 

[weberwildcat]

Coaches Poll - Oct 17


Team (1st Votes) Record Points Previous Ranking
1. James Madison (27) 7-1 699 1
2. Appalachian State 6-2 665 2
3. Cal Poly 5-1 622 3
4. Northern Iowa 6-2 596 4
5. Wofford (1) 6-1 588 6
6. Montana 7-1 574 5
7. Richmond 6-3 531 8
8. New Hampshire 6-1 479 10
9. Central Arkansas 7-1 453 12
10. Villanova 5-2 412 9
11. Southern Illinois 5-2 405 13
12. Elon 7-2 389 7
13. Weber State 7-2 363 17
14. Western Illinois 5-2 342 14
15. Massachusetts 5-3 320 16
16. McNeese State 4-3 221 11
17. Liberty 7-1 204 21
18. Northern Arizona 6-2 197 15
19. William & Mary 5-2 178 23
20. South Carolina State 6-2 147 24
21. Furman 6-3 143 18
22. Lafayette 6-1 131 NR
23. Tennessee-Martin 7-2 77 NR
T24. North Dakota State 4-4 50 24
T24. Harvard 5-1 50 NR

Other receiving votes (pts. in parentheses): Tennessee State (40), Jacksonville State (33), Florida A&M (28), Georgia Southern (25), Eastern Washington (19), Prairie View (18), Hampton (17), Texas State (17), Colgate (17), Maine (15), Grambling State (14), Dayton (6), UC Davis (4), Brown (4), South Dakota State (3), Holy Cross (2), Delaware (1), San Diego (1).

 

[weberdude]

I guess we'll have to hope for losses from the higher-ranked teams because we only managed to move up three spots. It's hard to argue that any of the higher teams should come down, but three spots?...

Montana beats Northern Colorado and moves up two--to number SIX. This is sad.

 

[wildfan]

Yup, Weber has already soundly thrashed the Griz, is ahead of um in the Big Sky standings and in the Sagarin rankings, yet trails in the national polls? Do I remember hearing somebody mention that the FCS is clueless about the west?