WSU OL

[PURPLEFORLIFE]

A lot of BSC fans are looking at the skill players returning for the conference teams as the determinate for a teams expected success in the 2011 season. However, I feel that most of the fans are missing the point entirely. Success is determined in the trenches. Yes, it is nice having athletic/talented players in our skill positions, but without an Offensive Line that talent ultimately will be wasted. Yes, Eastern is returning Mitchell and MSU has McGee for three more season, but how good are their offensive lines? Without a solid offensive line, a team has nothing to build their success off of.

I'm not as ambitious as Talhad, in other words, I'm not going to try to look at every team, and then get crucified by opposing team fans for making a mistake or two, but I do think it is important to look at our own teams lines and from that try to measure our potential. Also it is spring and kinda boring on this forum right now.

Weber lost a number of skill players from last years team, which leaves a lot of open spots, I think there is talent, but undeveloped or untried talent. What is nice is knowing that Weber returns its entire starting OL and most of its DL (the Beast) but the most importantly has a number of qualified and young backups. If we measure potential based on our OL/DL, I think Weber is in for one heck of a season. What does everyone think?

 

[Wildcat 100]

A lot of BSC fans are looking at the skill players returning for the conference teams as the determinate for a teams expected success in the 2011 season. However, I feel that most of the fans are missing the point entirely. Success is determined in the trenches. Yes, it is nice having athletic/talented players in our skill positions, but without an Offensive Line that talent ultimately will be wasted. Yes, Eastern is returning Mitchell and MSU has McGee for three more season, but how good are their offensive lines? Without a solid offensive line, a team has nothing to build their success off of.

I'm not as ambitious as Talhad, in other words, I'm not going to try to look at every team, and then get crucified by opposing team fans for making a mistake or two, but I do think it is important to look at our own teams lines and from that try to measure our potential. Also it is spring and kinda boring on this forum right now.

Weber lost a number of skill players from last years team, which leaves a lot of open spots, I think there is talent, but undeveloped or untried talent. What is nice is knowing that Weber returns its entire starting OL and most of its DL (the Beast) but the most importantly has a number of qualified and young backups. If we measure potential based on our OL/DL, I think Weber is in for one heck of a season. What does everyone think?

i just had lunch with coach mac and we were talking about the trenches. it comes down to execution and consistency. our OL is good, and using last year as a springboard for this year will help. the DL has depth, yes I said depth, and coach kaufusi feels we need 8-10 guys ready to roll at any time. fresh legs = pressure on the QB while staying in 'attack' mode.

i think our OL and DL will be a bright spot for us, and I am expecting an exciting year. just gotta believe, and one snap and clear......you will achieve what you believe........

 

[Wildcat 100]

A lot of BSC fans are looking at the skill players returning for the conference teams as the determinate for a teams expected success in the 2011 season. However, I feel that most of the fans are missing the point entirely. Success is determined in the trenches. Yes, it is nice having athletic/talented players in our skill positions, but without an Offensive Line that talent ultimately will be wasted. Yes, Eastern is returning Mitchell and MSU has McGee for three more season, but how good are their offensive lines? Without a solid offensive line, a team has nothing to build their success off of.

I'm not as ambitious as Talhad, in other words, I'm not going to try to look at every team, and then get crucified by opposing team fans for making a mistake or two, but I do think it is important to look at our own teams lines and from that try to measure our potential. Also it is spring and kinda boring on this forum right now.

Weber lost a number of skill players from last years team, which leaves a lot of open spots, I think there is talent, but undeveloped or untried talent. What is nice is knowing that Weber returns its entire starting OL and most of its DL (the Beast) but the most importantly has a number of qualified and young backups. If we measure potential based on our OL/DL, I think Weber is in for one heck of a season. What does everyone think?

i love this speech.....Al Pacino at his very best......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myyWXKeBsNk

 

[WILDCAT]

Both our lines are going to be the strengths of this team, which is going to make life for our playmakers (QB,RB,WR's) that much easier.

Last year I think Higgins was the least sacked QB in the Conf, that says alot about our OL. Our DL was pretty good last year minus the DE's who at the beginning of the year werent very good at containing. They will be much improved this coming year especially with the BEAST at the anchor.

Weber State is going to be much MUCH better than any other fanbases are giving us credit for, We have seen what Hoke can do, he led us to a come from behind victory at NAU and he did really well at Montana State. So at QB we will be just fine. Im not concerned about Running back, Weber always seems to pull a RB out of thier hats. and we got a good recieving core coming in.

I think our biggest concerns are going to be the kickers. Although McLain did pretty good at PAT's and Field Goals last year.

 

[Wildcat 100]

Both our lines are going to be the strengths of this team, which is going to make life for our playmakers (QB,RB,WR's) that much easier.

Last year I think Higgins was the least sacked QB in the Conf, that says alot about our OL. Our DL was pretty good last year minus the DE's who at the beginning of the year werent very good at containing. They will be much improved this coming year especially with the BEAST at the anchor.

Weber State is going to be much MUCH better than any other fanbases are giving us credit for, We have seen what Hoke can do, he led us to a come from behind victory at NAU and he did really well at Montana State. So at QB we will be just fine. Im not concerned about Running back, Weber always seems to pull a RB out of thier hats. and we got a good recieving core coming in.

I think our biggest concerns are going to be the kickers. Although McLain did pretty good at PAT's and Field Goals last year.

I think Mac is going to talk to the top kicker coming out of Hawaii tonight.......kid has a leg and a half.....

 

[bigskychamps07]

A lot of BSC fans are looking at the skill players returning for the conference teams as the determinate for a teams expected success in the 2011 season. However, I feel that most of the fans are missing the point entirely. Success is determined in the trenches. Yes, it is nice having athletic/talented players in our skill positions, but without an Offensive Line that talent ultimately will be wasted. Yes, Eastern is returning Mitchell and MSU has McGee for three more season, but how good are their offensive lines? Without a solid offensive line, a team has nothing to build their success off of.

I'm not as ambitious as Talhad, in other words, I'm not going to try to look at every team, and then get crucified by opposing team fans for making a mistake or two, but I do think it is important to look at our own teams lines and from that try to measure our potential. Also it is spring and kinda boring on this forum right now.

Weber lost a number of skill players from last years team, which leaves a lot of open spots, I think there is talent, but undeveloped or untried talent. What is nice is knowing that Weber returns its entire starting OL and most of its DL (the Beast) but the most importantly has a number of qualified and young backups. If we measure potential based on our OL/DL, I think Weber is in for one heck of a season. What does everyone think?

I think its a good rule of thumb but there is one position more important on a team that determines success.... the Quarterback. Here's some nice equations: Oline with 3 NFL draftees + Ian Pizarro = 1-10. Oline with 1 NFL draftee and 1 Canadian All-Star + Cameron Higgins = Big Sky Conference Champions/ Arguably the best team in WSU history. 0 NFL draftees + Cameron Higgins = 2 moderately successful seasons. In my humble opinion nothing determines the success of a team more than the playmaking and efficiency at QB.

 

[WILDCAT]

A lot of BSC fans are looking at the skill players returning for the conference teams as the determinate for a teams expected success in the 2011 season. However, I feel that most of the fans are missing the point entirely. Success is determined in the trenches. Yes, it is nice having athletic/talented players in our skill positions, but without an Offensive Line that talent ultimately will be wasted. Yes, Eastern is returning Mitchell and MSU has McGee for three more season, but how good are their offensive lines? Without a solid offensive line, a team has nothing to build their success off of.

I'm not as ambitious as Talhad, in other words, I'm not going to try to look at every team, and then get crucified by opposing team fans for making a mistake or two, but I do think it is important to look at our own teams lines and from that try to measure our potential. Also it is spring and kinda boring on this forum right now.

Weber lost a number of skill players from last years team, which leaves a lot of open spots, I think there is talent, but undeveloped or untried talent. What is nice is knowing that Weber returns its entire starting OL and most of its DL (the Beast) but the most importantly has a number of qualified and young backups. If we measure potential based on our OL/DL, I think Weber is in for one heck of a season. What does everyone think?

I think its a good rule of thumb but there is one position more important on a team that determines success.... the Quarterback. Here's some nice equations: Oline with 3 NFL draftees + Ian Pizarro = 1-10. Oline with 1 NFL draftee and 1 Canadian All-Star + Cameron Higgins = Big Sky Conference Champions/ Arguably the best team in WSU history. 0 NFL draftees + Cameron Higgins = 2 moderately successful seasons. In my humble opinion nothing determines the success of a team more than the playmaking and efficiency at QB.

True, but having a great offensive line that keeps the pressure off the QB helps alot.

 

[bigskychamps07]

A lot of BSC fans are looking at the skill players returning for the conference teams as the determinate for a teams expected success in the 2011 season. However, I feel that most of the fans are missing the point entirely. Success is determined in the trenches. Yes, it is nice having athletic/talented players in our skill positions, but without an Offensive Line that talent ultimately will be wasted. Yes, Eastern is returning Mitchell and MSU has McGee for three more season, but how good are their offensive lines? Without a solid offensive line, a team has nothing to build their success off of.

I'm not as ambitious as Talhad, in other words, I'm not going to try to look at every team, and then get crucified by opposing team fans for making a mistake or two, but I do think it is important to look at our own teams lines and from that try to measure our potential. Also it is spring and kinda boring on this forum right now.

Weber lost a number of skill players from last years team, which leaves a lot of open spots, I think there is talent, but undeveloped or untried talent. What is nice is knowing that Weber returns its entire starting OL and most of its DL (the Beast) but the most importantly has a number of qualified and young backups. If we measure potential based on our OL/DL, I think Weber is in for one heck of a season. What does everyone think?

I think its a good rule of thumb but there is one position more important on a team that determines success.... the Quarterback. Here's some nice equations: Oline with 3 NFL draftees + Ian Pizarro = 1-10. Oline with 1 NFL draftee and 1 Canadian All-Star + Cameron Higgins = Big Sky Conference Champions/ Arguably the best team in WSU history. 0 NFL draftees + Cameron Higgins = 2 moderately successful seasons. In my humble opinion nothing determines the success of a team more than the playmaking and efficiency at QB.

True, but having a great offensive line that keeps the pressure off the QB helps alot.

I totally agree, the game, for the most part is won and lost in the trenches. But its all for not if the QB turns the ball over and cannot make good decisions with the football. I hope that Hoke will be that guy, QB's that have the dual threat of run/pass are extremely difficult to stop, Hoke just needs to tuck in and run if there isn't anything available from our inexperienced WR corps.

 

[WILDCAT]

A lot of BSC fans are looking at the skill players returning for the conference teams as the determinate for a teams expected success in the 2011 season. However, I feel that most of the fans are missing the point entirely. Success is determined in the trenches. Yes, it is nice having athletic/talented players in our skill positions, but without an Offensive Line that talent ultimately will be wasted. Yes, Eastern is returning Mitchell and MSU has McGee for three more season, but how good are their offensive lines? Without a solid offensive line, a team has nothing to build their success off of.

I'm not as ambitious as Talhad, in other words, I'm not going to try to look at every team, and then get crucified by opposing team fans for making a mistake or two, but I do think it is important to look at our own teams lines and from that try to measure our potential. Also it is spring and kinda boring on this forum right now.

Weber lost a number of skill players from last years team, which leaves a lot of open spots, I think there is talent, but undeveloped or untried talent. What is nice is knowing that Weber returns its entire starting OL and most of its DL (the Beast) but the most importantly has a number of qualified and young backups. If we measure potential based on our OL/DL, I think Weber is in for one heck of a season. What does everyone think?

I think its a good rule of thumb but there is one position more important on a team that determines success.... the Quarterback. Here's some nice equations: Oline with 3 NFL draftees + Ian Pizarro = 1-10. Oline with 1 NFL draftee and 1 Canadian All-Star + Cameron Higgins = Big Sky Conference Champions/ Arguably the best team in WSU history. 0 NFL draftees + Cameron Higgins = 2 moderately successful seasons. In my humble opinion nothing determines the success of a team more than the playmaking and efficiency at QB.

True, but having a great offensive line that keeps the pressure off the QB helps alot.

I totally agree, the game, for the most part is won and lost in the trenches. But its all for not if the QB turns the ball over and cannot make good decisions with the football. I hope that Hoke will be that guy, QB's that have the dual threat of run/pass are extremely difficult to stop, Hoke just needs to tuck in and run if there isn't anything available from our inexperienced WR corps.

Something Higgins wouldnt do, and it usually led to trouble for Weber, lets hope Hoke has a little more awareness

 

[PURPLEFORLIFE]

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I'm not sure if this is still the chart, i'm sure there will be some changes after camp, but right now this is what we are looking at.