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Re: Maine @ Weber St

Post by SWeberCat02 » Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:43 am

What kind of injuries has Maine's QB Ferguson struggled with?

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Re: Maine @ Weber St

Post by SWeberCat02 » Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:52 am

QBs stats are pretty similar.

Ferguson 10 GP, 129.05 Rating, 166 Comp, 287 Att, 8 Int, 57.84%, 1877 Yards, 19 TD, 77 Long, 187.70 Avg/G

Constantine 11 GP, 132.59 Rating, 184 Comp, 289 Att, 8 Int, 63.67%, 1933 Yards, 16 TD, 69 Long, 175.73 Avg/G

Neither are mobile. Ferguson -5.80 Avg/G, 9 Long. Constantine -7.27 Avg/G, 11 Long.

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Re: Maine @ Weber St

Post by WSUWildcat » Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:55 am

SWeberCat02 wrote:
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What kind of injuries has Maine's QB Ferguson struggled with?
Throwing shoulder

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Re: Maine @ Weber St

Post by Muchups » Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:31 am

SWeberCat02 wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:52 am
QBs stats are pretty similar.

Ferguson 10 GP, 129.05 Rating, 166 Comp, 287 Att, 8 Int, 57.84%, 1877 Yards, 19 TD, 77 Long, 187.70 Avg/G

Constantine 11 GP, 132.59 Rating, 184 Comp, 289 Att, 8 Int, 63.67%, 1933 Yards, 16 TD, 69 Long, 175.73 Avg/G

Neither are mobile. Ferguson -5.80 Avg/G, 9 Long. Constantine -7.27 Avg/G, 11 Long.
As I mentioned in a previous post, Ferguson played in 10 games but he left 3 of those in the first half due to injury. Therefore those stats are somewhat skewed.

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Re: Maine @ Weber St

Post by SWeberCat02 » Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:08 pm

Muchups wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:31 am
SWeberCat02 wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:52 am
QBs stats are pretty similar.

Ferguson 10 GP, 129.05 Rating, 166 Comp, 287 Att, 8 Int, 57.84%, 1877 Yards, 19 TD, 77 Long, 187.70 Avg/G

Constantine 11 GP, 132.59 Rating, 184 Comp, 289 Att, 8 Int, 63.67%, 1933 Yards, 16 TD, 69 Long, 175.73 Avg/G

Neither are mobile. Ferguson -5.80 Avg/G, 9 Long. Constantine -7.27 Avg/G, 11 Long.
As I mentioned in a previous post, Ferguson played in 10 games but he left 3 of those in the first half due to injury. Therefore those stats are somewhat skewed.
And Constantine wasn't the starter at the beginning of the season and split time with Jenks until Jenks was injured in game six. So I could say the same thing about his stats, but I wasn't looking to make excuses.

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Re: Maine @ Weber St

Post by Muchups » Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:57 pm

SWeberCat02 wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:08 pm
Muchups wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:31 am
SWeberCat02 wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:52 am
QBs stats are pretty similar.

Ferguson 10 GP, 129.05 Rating, 166 Comp, 287 Att, 8 Int, 57.84%, 1877 Yards, 19 TD, 77 Long, 187.70 Avg/G

Constantine 11 GP, 132.59 Rating, 184 Comp, 289 Att, 8 Int, 63.67%, 1933 Yards, 16 TD, 69 Long, 175.73 Avg/G

Neither are mobile. Ferguson -5.80 Avg/G, 9 Long. Constantine -7.27 Avg/G, 11 Long.
As I mentioned in a previous post, Ferguson played in 10 games but he left 3 of those in the first half due to injury. Therefore those stats are somewhat skewed.
And Constantine wasn't the starter at the beginning of the season and split time with Jenks until Jenks was injured in game six. So I could say the same thing about his stats, but I wasn't looking to make excuses.

Not making excuses. I’m making a point. If you want an accurate evaluation of a team’s, in this case, offense or quarterback you need to look at more than box scores or stat lines.

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Re: Maine @ Weber St

Post by MainahinUtah » Thu Dec 06, 2018 5:09 pm

Having seen a little bit of both teams this year I think if it came down to QB's, Maine would have the advantage based only on which one is likely to make fewer mistakes. However, I don't think it will come down to QB's. We know both teams defenses can stop the run and get into the backfield, so the offensive lines will be the major factor. Penalties should have killed Maine many, many times this year, but they somehow overcame most every one that appeared would cost them a victory. I don't think Maine can overcome any bad penalties on the road here. So I think Weber should be favored by 6. I suspect Weber would win 2 out of 3 games played against Maine in Ogden and Maine would probably do the same in Orono. Things do seem to be coming together at the right time for both teams this year, so it will be really disappointing when one of these teams doesn't advance.

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Re: Maine @ Weber St

Post by SWWeatherCat » Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:16 pm

MainahinUtah wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 5:09 pm
Having seen a little bit of both teams this year I think if it came down to QB's, Maine would have the advantage based only on which one is likely to make fewer mistakes. However, I don't think it will come down to QB's. We know both teams defenses can stop the run and get into the backfield, so the offensive lines will be the major factor. Penalties should have killed Maine many, many times this year, but they somehow overcame most every one that appeared would cost them a victory. I don't think Maine can overcome any bad penalties on the road here. So I think Weber should be favored by 6. I suspect Weber would win 2 out of 3 games played against Maine in Ogden and Maine would probably do the same in Orono. Things do seem to be coming together at the right time for both teams this year, so it will be really disappointing when one of these teams doesn't advance.
I wholeheartedly agree with your view. The more I look at various, often random comparisons of these two team the more I see so many similarities from all kinds of angles. I hope home field pays off because (off the field) it looks like a tossup. I guess I'm hoping that Maine not playing 3 of the top 4 CAA teams gives Weber a SOS edge. In a way I don't think it will come down to QBs either but when all the similarities start seemingly canceling out, it make sense whichever QB can take better care of the ball and OLine take better care of their QB, it very well make come down to that. I've spent some time looking at pure statistical comparisons and don't really see anything jumping of the page as far as averages go; however, Ferguson is a little better with TDs and turnovers, while Constantine has better per attempt completions and yardage. Neither one can run to save their life. Again, I'm hoping I see an advantage from a possible slight SOS advantage-- I need something to give me hope. Best of luck to Maine any other time but tomorrow (and any future Weber State match-up).

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Re: Maine @ Weber St

Post by clawman » Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:42 am

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Re: Maine @ Weber St

Post by Mainefutball » Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:22 am

Maine has got to contain both Weber States running backs Davis and Garrett to slow down their offense...I don't have the stats on Davis but he is the premier running back, although last week Garrett carried the load. If those two have a good game today, Maine is in some trouble. If they do contain those two I would say Weber State is in some trouble.

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Re: Maine @ Weber St

Post by WSUWildcat » Fri Dec 07, 2018 5:45 am

Mainefutball wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:22 am
Maine has got to contain both Weber States running backs Davis and Garrett to slow down their offense...I don't have the stats on Davis but he is the premier running back, although last week Garrett carried the load. If those two have a good game today, Maine is in some trouble. If they do contain those two I would say Weber State is in some trouble.
Weber has been blessed with a pretty good position group at running back.

Treshawn Garrett was the starter the bulk of the last two seasons. However he has missed most of this season with injuries. In his absence, Josh Davis has taken over. Both are very capable runners with slightly different styles. Both backs are shifty and pretty good at cutting back to the hole.

Garrett is a bigger back, though not by much, and he breaks tackles once he hits the hole. Tends to pinball off of defenders.

Davis is a little less physical, though he still takes on tacklers and is difficult to bring down. Davis is quicker to the hole in my opinion and dangerous in the open field.

Credit to the offensive line for much of the success. We often see a few runs a game where nobody touches the back until they are ten yards downfield.

If Weber can run the ball in the first half, the game might be over. Often our running attack finds even more success in the second half after our line has worn down the opponents defense.

Should be a great game. Go Cats!

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Re: Maine @ Weber St

Post by WILDCAT » Fri Dec 07, 2018 5:50 am

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Re: Maine @ Weber St

Post by mainejeff » Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:28 am

No one has really mentioned Maine RB Ramon Jefferson. In Maine's last 2 "must win" games he has racked up 316 yards/ 2 TD / 6.2 avg.

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Re: Maine @ Weber St

Post by MaineFTW » Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:10 am

Jacksonville State favored 3.5 over Maine
Jacksonville State 27 Maine 55
Weber State favored. Weber State loses.

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Re: Maine @ Weber St

Post by WSUWildcat » Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:38 am

MaineFTW wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:10 am
Jacksonville State favored 3.5 over Maine
Jacksonville State 27 Maine 55
Weber State favored. Weber State loses.
Amazing analysis. Love the enthusiasm. Hope you cheer Weber on in Frisco.

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Re: Maine @ Weber St

Post by WSUWildcat » Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:51 am

mainejeff wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:28 am
No one has really mentioned Maine RB Ramon Jefferson. In Maine's last 2 "must win" games he has racked up 316 yards/ 2 TD / 6.2 avg.
He looks like a solid running back, why has he only played 7 games? Honestly, I am not sure it matters who is running the ball for either team as much as who wins the battle in the trenches and does the defense make the tackle or miss.

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Re: Maine @ Weber St

Post by SWeberCat02 » Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:40 am

Friday game day feels weird. Going to be difficult to work today.

Weber still a 7 point favorite.

Forecast is for around 30 degrees throughout the game with no moisture or wind. Air quality is moderate.

This is the only football game on in the nation. Unbelievable exposure for both programs and the FCS. Let's put on a show for a national audience. Go Cats!

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Re: Maine @ Weber St

Post by N.OgdenCat » Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:58 am

I think the running back for Maine is quite good. He has carried the rock a ton this year for those guys, and has been very successful. He seems like a hard, up field, runner. Churns his legs after the initial hit and keeps going. Tough runner with a good OL. Offensively, Maine has great balance when key players have been healthy. Like Weber though, Maine's OL are the real studs. They wear down defenses and hold onto the ball. The epitome of smash-mouth football. On defense, the front 7 for Maine is like Weber's front 7: TOUGH. The difference might be the secondary and overall team speed. I don't know much about Maine, but I do know that Weber has some really quick quys. I know we have talked a lot about toughness, QB play, health, the defensive front 7, but something that hasn't been looked at is team speed, secondary and special teams play. When two teams are as evenly matched as Maine and Weber State those three things are the difference makers.

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Re: Maine @ Weber St

Post by wildkyle » Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:56 am

This is a long day.

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Re: Maine @ Weber St

Post by PURPLEFORLIFE » Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:15 am

Good grief I'm excited!! LETS GO CATS!!!

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